May 21, 2007

Comments for YOU ARE NOT ALONE

(I'm putting the comments to the essay on a separate page simply so that we can have a lot of them without automatically showing up in the link to the essay. Feel free to introduce yourself! Hit the COMMENTS button below)

Posted by Proteus at May 21, 2007 2:07 PM







Welcome to the Eject! Eject! Eject! commenter community. Please read and understand the following:


1. This is not a public square. This is a dinner party on personal property. Good conversation is not only tolerated but celebrated here. But the host understands the difference between dissent and disrespect, even if you do not. Louts will be ignored until the bouncers can show them the door.

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Now let's see some distributed intelligence and basic human decency! Don't make me come down there every five minutes!




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Can't wait!



Shiite Holy, Batman.



Hi. My name is Bill. I know a little astronomy, and I can teach flying, computer graphics, and most film and TV Production. I live in Southern California. It's good to meet you, and I'm happy to be here.



VERY thought provoking... Still wondering about it all. Wonderful post!

Yea, I can't wait either...



Bill, that is possibly the best articulation of the Tough-But-Fair strategy in the Prisoner's Dilemma that I've read to date.

It explains quite a widespread number of things--including why the world didn't blow itself up during the U.S./Soviet nuclear faceoff. Back then the U.S. had a well-justified reputation for being tough but fair; the leaders of most nations knew in their bones that the U.S. was not going to attack without reason--but if they, heaven forbid, were to use a warhead on an American city, all bets were off. That surety--the knowledge that the U.S. would use nukes only if provoked into doing so--was what kept both them and us safe.

What is keeping us safe now?

Anyway, to introductions. I'm The Pirate King (TPK works fine for short), and I know a coupla handy things: a long list of books that explain and describe why America is great, the esoteric knowledge of how to fix and serve dinner when you have nothing but a lone olive floating in a jar at the back of the fridge, random Knit and Crochet Fu, and Emergency Bug-Out Skills 101.



MadMonk here. I consider myself skilled in Windows Servers and PCs. I also can rebuild an engine in a '72 Olds Cutlass and make it purr. I am continually learning new handyman skills around my house, but as my wife will attest, I can't do laundry to save my life, unless you like wearing pink whites and shrunken garments. ;)



OK, intro!
My name is Gini, I live in Arkansas, I homeschool three children aged 17, 10, and almost 4. I can tell people all sorts of things about chickens, dogs, cats, and kids. Also husbands. ;)
I know a little about art, history and worldviews- enough to teach? Not sure. But I am always ready to research and help someone if they have a question on ANY subject.



I know a little bit about a lot of stuff, and a great deal about not much.

Bill, my dear, dear friend: we've been building Ejectia for years.



I'll introduce myself - I go by Captain Midnight, and I'm husband to the most nifty Pirate King above. As for skills--I am a fellow blogger, a karate instructor puzzled by how to teach it successfully on the web, a consumer of books and dinners crafted from a lone olive floating in a jar, and a master of keeping TPK happy. Being married to a wife who has her own cutlass means the last is a necessary survival skill.



Count me in all the way. Any skills I have including programming are at the disposal of Ejectia.



AARRGGHH!

It goes up JUST as I'm about to leave!

Paste into Word...Print...Read on the train.

- MuscleDaddy



Name: Greywar

Skills:

Intelligence Gathering, Military tactics and strategy, and Anything to do with Cisco routers or Domino's Pizza.



I'm a software engineer, a writer, and a scientist. As a tech writer, I can teach just about anybody just about anything. Maybe I can help the people who aren't exceptionally skilled writers get their points across. Or roll up good posts into a FAQ or wiki or something.

I do a lot of XML work, front end web development. I'm an old school geek. But also a molecular biologist.

And I can do laundry, too. ;)

And I like this feeling of hope that I have just reading this. It is so easy to feel alone, when it looks like everyone else wants to cheat. I love the first example of traffic. After years of CA traffic habits, I'm nearly tempted to cheat, too. But the Texan in me still wants to be polite.



Hi, I'm Stephen; usually known as sgstair on the web. I'm a self-taught Computer Programmer and Electronics Engineer, and am reasonably well known for some of my skills in some small corners of the web.
This essay has been quite interesting to read, and I'm even more excited about the possibliities than I was before reading this. I've been aware of the game theory angle for a while, but the remnant concept is new to me. As usual for this site, I'm in awe of the clarity of the writing - the core of the message is conveyed very effectively!
Overall, I'm very happy to be around with many like-minded people, and will be thrilled if I can help out in any way.



Uhh... "URL"? Do I have a "URL"?

I'm feeling sucked into the vortex...
Yes, it is nice to know I am not alone.
I have never commented on a blog before and I have been avidly reading them since the 2000 election.

Thanks for your clarity and count me in.

My biggest personal challenge is holding those on the the left side of the political spectrum in the light. Western Civ is worth saving and we cannot save it without them. They appear to at best be clueless and at worst be dedicated and intent on its destruction. I have faith that those who need to come around will and those who won't will eventually be rendered irrelevant.



I'm with you, MuscleDaddy- this WOULD go up right when I've got a ton of stuff I really should be doing other than hanging out here!

Hi, I go by LabRat, and I'm your friendly neighborhood informational dilettante. My actual field of real expertise is evolutionary biology, but I'm good at laying my hands on various resources from anthropology to history to zoology. I'm also told I'm pretty fair at verbal kung-fu- and yes, I can teach that. Other favorite topics include dogs and food science; I'm great with general behavior dogwise, but you'll want a real expert for training advice. Likewise I can tell you about the biochemistry of an egg, but find a real nutritionist if you want to go on a diet.

CaptainMidnight- can't teach karate over the web, but I bet you do have some insights into mindset and anatomy. At the very least you might be able to help people like me with not a lot of local resources around and no ability to tell a belt-factory dojo from a useful teacher of unarmed combat...

Bill: The instinct to punish a cheat is so strong that just about any social primate tested so far will opt to punish a cheater even if it means sacrificing their own maximum gain. It might actually explain why socialism/communism have such horribly persistent appeal; all resources in a monkey's world are pretty much finite. If you see some monkey bastard with more than he knows what to do with, the odds ARE in fact that he took it by some nasty method. PUNISH THE CHEAT!

We're not monkeys, but civilization seems to be the system in place for reminding us of that.



very intereshting-

I'm George. I'm a cardiovascular ultrasound technologist. I'm also an uberamateur (does that work?)photographer. So I'm taking pictures at work. I'm taking pictures at home.

I can teach ultrasound. I'm not sure how practical that is.

I can teach cameras, taking pics and, having spent hours and hours on photoshop, can teach some of that.

And maybe I can instruct on how to toe the line at being freakin' crazy without being committed.

And I don't cheat in traffic. I make room for people to get in line and try to ignore the occasional...er, frequent asshole out there.

And I obviously ramble on a lot.

I live in east tennessee, and got to this via instapundit.



No, Scarlet, you don't have to have an URL. Those of us who don't have them have non-clickable names. Nothing wrong with that.



this could have been written by ayn rand. i love it. thank you.



When I first saw the word "Remnant" in this essay, I was more excited than I believe I have ever been in my entire life (I'm a CS student, I need to get out more - I know). More than anything else, the epilogue from the first edition of Silent America has kept poking and prodding away at my mind over the years. It's great to see this idea expanded upon, it resonates with me more than anything else I have ever encountered.

Incidentally, I'm a Computer Science major going into my senior year right now. I've done a lot of web work over the years (front end coding and ugly back end stuff alike). I'm also slated to be doing some service oriented architecture work in the coming months. I no doubt know less than many of the other programmy types here, but those regions that I do understand, I like to think I can explain them pretty well. I've also gotten reasonably good at beating up websites and finding where the cracks are. I would be honored to help with Ejectia! in whatever capacity I can. The peace of mind such a community would bring to many of us cannot be overstated.



"The mature man lives quietly, does good privately, takes responsibility for his actions, treats others with friendliness and courtesy, finds mischief boring and avoids it. Without the hidden conspiracy of goodwill, society would not endure an hour."

Kenneth Rexroth in the
"Introduction to Tolstoy's The Kingdom of God Is Within You"



Howdy, everyone. My name is Jimmie.

I can teach you how to read music and how to sing. If you're inclined to play the clarinet or saxophone, I can teach you that, too. I'm a music student working to become a teacher but, for the past 18 years, I've been a police dispatcher. I've also nearly earned a certificate in Critical Incident Stress Management. Oh, I was on Jeopardy! last year, also (which means I know a little about a lot but not a lot about everything)

I like to help and if there's something I know, I'll gladly share it.



I enjoyed your thoughts and thought i'd introduce myself. I'm a web developer in Los Angeles. I'm also a musician. I'd probably be better at teaching web programming than music, only because it's harder to be objective about music that programming. Would be happy to help anyone that needs help.



Hello,
My name is Bruce. I can't believe that there aren't 20 pages of comments here, but it appears that this is all somewhat fresh to the web...
Your essay was magnificent and it has filled me with happiness. I really needed to hear your message, it's wonderful not to feel alone.
I'm not sure how useful I can be to the group (cripes, I was ready to say "flock"!) I've got tons of flight time in the KC-135 Stratotanker, so if there's someone who like to learn about that... I'm pretty good at personal computer management - how to set things up, which free programs work well, installing printers, setting up wireless networks, that sort of thing.
Anyway, I'm happy to be here.



All I can do is smile.



Robert Heinlein long ago convinced me that the yeast in mankind's loaf would migrate to the stars, and would migrate often. Only the brightest and best have the stones, the energy and the sheer cussedness to risk finding a better way. While we're here, yet trapped on the same planet together, I enjoy two avocations - understanding money and understanding root meanings to words in common use. Neither have any practical value except to learn how to see past the Veil.

Count me in, brothers and Sisters. Count me in.



I'm too humble to broadcast what I can teach at this point, but is there anywhere I can post what I'd like to learn?

I know I have a ton to offer this community, but I need to get my own tail in gear first.



Expert at nothing, willing to try anything. Minorly famous (notorious?) for my flame grilled barbeque and home brew on a Sunday afternoon, making the most of the great Australian summer. Systems engineer - always trying to analyse the how and why in the muddy world around me, hence the attraction to Bill's clarity to straighten my mind.



If you want to pursue the ideas in Robert Axelrod's book, but can't find it, try METAMAGICAL THEMAS by Douglas Hofstadter, which has a long chapter on this topic. The rest of the chapters are well worth reading too, particularly "The Tale of Happiton"

I am a librarian by trade, and at the moment am looking for a new job.



If you want to pursue the ideas in Robert Axelrod's book, but can't find it, try METAMAGICAL THEMAS by Douglas Hofstadter, which has a long chapter on this topic. The rest of the chapters are well worth reading too, particularly "The Tale of Happiton"

I am a librarian by trade, and at the moment am looking for a new job.



I know that you didn't mean it as a literal question, but the bit about the "dirty bomb" brings up an interesting parallel to your main point. You see, a "dirty bomb" is a weapon which prays on peoples ignorance. Even an extremely well constructed dirty bomb would, at worst, only cause a slight rise in cancer rates. In a major metropolis (population of several million) you might see a few thousand extra cancer-related deaths, the first of which would start to occur 15-20 years after the initial explosion. Yet it's almost certain that hundreds, if not thousands, would die in the panic and rioting following the announcement that such a weapon had been detonated. In such a scenario, the true task for "The Remnant" would be simply organizing and calming people in order to save them from their own foolishness.



I believe the foundations of Ejectia already exist. I am often overwhelmed by the quality of blog comments (when the wheat is separated from the chaff).

If you aggregated the best comments on a narrow topic, you could produce a powerful treatise on that topic.



Hi my name is Sean and I am a network administrator by vocation. But I also organize volunteer buglers for military funerals. I wrote a best selling history book a few years back. And I am studying now to be a minister part time.

Why do I do these things? Because like you I have a desire to better my world. I am a very ordinary guy, who has used his few mediocre talents to comfort hundreds of grieving family members, educate and inspire thousands of readers to preserve honorable traditions, and helped dozens of lost souls embrace something greater than themselves.

I do not have unique talents. I merely have a desire to help others. You don't need great talent - just a willingness to use them. If Bill Whittle has inspired you, like he has me, take that next step. Help us build Ejectia, not just here on Bill's site, but in your own backyard too.



Hi, my name is Nancy and I live in Los Angeles. I took a blog survey this morning via Instapundit which was asking if I read blogs to find people who think like I do. I guess I must since the idea of Remnants speaks powerfully to me. I'm not so sure about Ejactia, but willing to give it a try. I'm an English major, can write, can edit, can research, and can transcribe/do production typing.



Hi, I'm one of the remnant, and I AM NOT ALONE.

Thanks for the reminder,

ProudMarineDad



I'm here, abiding, watching the winds gather and blow. My whole life has been in preparation and I stand in the wings, waiting. There is no eager postering, only the realization that forces of darkness gather and I must be ready when the time comes to act. I will be back to build as I can. -cp



Hi there; my name is Joe and I have only non-practical things I can offer; how to write passable poetry and short prose fiction, how to do comparative religion, how to develop a good theoretical grasp of the philosophy of science, a communicable understanding of philosophical movements such as phenomenology, Piaget's genetic epistemology, semiotics, memetics, hermeneutics, structuralism, functionalism, pragmatism, etc. Not very useful, I know, and I probably won't get many takers on such offerings, but it's what I've got - that is, what I enjoy doing and am pretty good at. Am anxious to find out what others have to offer, and look forward to absorbing it.



Bill: Have been visiting your site for more than a year....count me in. I can build a house from start to finish. Am hoping John Galt will visit this web site!
Good luck.



I tell stories, stories about people and the challenges they met, in our history. That is my strength, and over the last year it has become my obsession. About nine months ago I was laid off from a corporate job, which I didn't really mind because it meant that I could stay at home and write... and I have the feeling that in a time to come soon, we will need our stories, to inspire and hearten us, and to remind us of the work that our ancestors did to secure our safety and security against mortal peril. Someone who does not know our history is alone, and drifting in a void. Virgil wrote "With such great labor was built the Roman people."

So, I write and tell stories. We have to remember.



Hi,
My name is David. By profession, I'm an audiologist (ear testing guy). I also know a fair amount about basic math, statistics, and physics. I want to see our society survive for the sake of my kids.



I also find the idea of Ejectia to be inspiring.

I'm a typical lurker, but willing to help out. A chemical engineer by training, a software type by experience. Which means I have an acquaintance with lots of science and engineering topics, and lots of programming languages. Most likely to be useful with data analysis, database creation/use, etc. Weak on web programming, but willing to learn.



Had to say HI! here before I head over to the "building" post.
I'm daddyquatro/Stan. As the name implies, I'm good at making babies; not a teachable skill.
But, I like to think, I'm also good at raising them (don't reward cheating but be willing to forgive)
Gini, you're my first mentor. I need to get my kids out of public school!
What am I most proud of?

This may make no sense now but I hope it will in the future.

I'm the guy who discovered Dougman's Butt.



Howdy. My name is Ben, I'm a law clerk in Shreveport, Louisiana(no, we do not have the Napoleonic Code, but we do use a civil code method of law).

I'm 30, I felt very alone, but now less so. As to Ejectia--

And I'm so freaking in.

WBJ

P.S. "Tribes" is, perhaps, the best essay I've ever read.



Hello,
My name is Bruce. I can't believe that there aren't 20 pages of comments here, but it appears that this is all somewhat fresh to the web...
Your essay was magnificent and it has filled me with happiness. I really needed to hear your message, it's wonderful not to feel alone.
I'm not sure how useful I can be to the group (cripes, I was ready to say "flock"!) I've got tons of flight time in the KC-135 Stratotanker, so if there's someone who like to learn about that... I'm pretty good at personal computer management - how to set things up, which free programs work well, installing printers, setting up wireless networks, that sort of thing.
Anyway, I'm happy to be here.



What a wonderful idea! Not being alone in a world of cynical politicians who steadfastly ignore the proverbial broken window. Count me in -- I can teach how to fly gliders or raise bees, can write and edit, or can share ideas. Sounds to me like the remnant needs ideas most of all right now. I also have some experience in political organizing, and it strikes me that for the remnant to be successful it needs not only to stand up for what is right; it also needs to raise the cost of rushing to the offramp in the fastlane and then cutting in to the exit ramp traffic. Or am I being vindictive in this desire? I keep telling myself vindictiveness has no place in an enlightened life, but sometimes it just plain feels right. Good job, Bill: I'm enthused. F



Wow, I feel the temptation to post something deeply profound. Unfortunately, right now, all I have is bathroom humor, and I will spare everyone of that. I am heretic environmental scientist (GHG, global warming denier). Spent the past decade helping to clean Super Fund sites in CA. Not an expert, but can pretend with the best of them. Looking forward to seeing how this transpires. Thanks for the opportunity.



Hello, my name is Tracy and before the unavoidable confusion sets in I am a man. I don't usually comment at blogs, my ability to express what I'm thinking isn't the best in the world, but I decided to say hello plus a little more.

I suppose I am one of those jack of all trades master of none kind of people. Most notable I suppose is the fact that I built the house that I'm living in now, so I can answer general questions about that. Don't know how well I would do at teaching it though.

Really enjoyed the post and it is nice to know there are others out there that feel the same as I do.



I get oil from the ground. I also write, but nothing like you do.

I found myself reminded of the practical stuff the hero's dad taught him in Heinlein's Have Spacesuit Will Travel. Or maybe we're establishing a Remnant's Freehold?



A bit overwhelming but great concept. Although I think some went over my head, I get the idea and am all for it. Hey Bruce, I've got 26 years fixing KC-135 Stratotankers. Geez, over half my life now. Ouch! Remember, keep the greasy side down and the clean side up, plus...if it's on the ground, it's from the plane parked here before yours and if it's on the plane, it's within limits! Oh, and one last piece of aviation (or life) wisdom...you start out with two bags in life. The first one is experience which is empty and the other bag is luck which is full. The idea is to fill the empty bag with experience before the full bag of luck becomes empty.



Thanks for inviting me in!
I have a limited set of skills and little to no ability to teach any of them. Perhaps I just lack the skill of self evaluation. My momma says I'm smart and handsome but I thinks she's just being nice. I do have some skills in the area of snark and smarminess(which only seems usefull for amusing myself)
I'll be standing by since I've been well and trully addicted to this site since I discovered it some years back.



Very cool, guy. As, after reading you for some time, I'd expected.



Hi,
I am Flicka,as in "My Friend.
I don't know that anything I do is "transferable" as a skill,but as my name implys I know a lot about animals.I also do genealogy and am blog obsessed. Looking for the answers to counter the decline...



Greetings everyone, I'm Dana (not a nic) and a guy (hi Tracy) and really do want to ride a thundering chair to the stars, so I am on board Ejectia. In 30 years of working I avoided specialization (it's for bugs)but a common thread through all the various jobs was sharing what I knew with others, helping them learn their jobs or training them to do mine. One brief stint in front of a class, (PC's in the early 80's) taught me formal teaching wasn't likely a career choice. I'm an electrician, currently selling electrical parts and supplies for a multi-national.



Hi All,

My name is Meg and I'm a technical support manager, so like several folks who've already posted, I'm a generalist in the technology field as well as in most other areas of life. I also tend to be good with people, finding that I still like most of the folks I come across even after several years in support. Lastly, I make really good chocolate chip cookies which certainly can be taught. Ejectia as a community shall not go hungry on my watch (as long as everyone is happy to eat only chocolate chip cookies).



Practical marksmanship.

Field medical.

Good folks - skilled and straightforward.

Very affordable.

Have gun?

We'll travel.

Group email at westernshooters@gmail.com



Bill,
Thank you for posting this essay. I've been reading you for a while, and have never commented. _You Are Not Alone_ is the first explanation of why illegal immigration hurts us that I have really grasped. I'm a (corporate, not tax) accountant, and I love business analysis. I can cook, too. Ejectia sounds wonderful.



As luck would have it there are many similar communities on the web already. Albeit somewhat specialized ones. There are forums for helping you fix your house, car, and turbo-molecular vacuum pump. As well as cook a better dinner and avoid counterfeit merchandise on ebay.

A lot of times people join simply to ask a few questions or search the archives to find a fix to their problem. Its like a collection of little independent communities as opposed to one large all encompassing one.



I'm in. I have always wondered where the rest of you were. I only hope I can live up to that statement.
I am good at finding new mechanisms. I will now give away my identity to my enemies. I hold tow US Utility Patents one for a silly new cap for motor oil bottles and another for a brake for a persoanl watercraft.
There. Let the trolls find me. They will be the first to point out how retaliatory I can be.
I am also good at personal advice. Not the original stuff, but making sense of what we should already know about right and wrong. That's why I look up to Bill. He's damn good at it. I can only teach what I know.



My name is Stephen. I am a java programmer and I start law school this fall.



Bill - I wrote you about a week ago telling how much I like your new site and your writings.(thanks for the nice response) Can you PLEASE put in a printer-friendly set-up in order to print out your essays? I don't like reading long things at my computer, would like to print out this new one to read on the couch. I tried sending it to myself in email, but it's all in blue and also it prints out too tiny to read. Can you get some tech person to do this for you? Thanks for the things you write that make us all think and also help us know that we are indeed, not alone.



I'm a lawyer who believes the purpose of the law is to solve problems, not to transfer wealth. I can do a fair number of other things. I'm a big fan of Bill Whittle's thinking and will happily participate in his proposed site, if allowed to.



Great article, as always. I don't know if I'm considered "unfit for service", but I'm of the opinion that the call to "Have Character" and "Love Your Country" will fall as flat as it did in 1918 without a larger moral context. Yes, I mean the "J" word. For the well-educated Spartan or Athenian your appeal would have been all that was needed, but he wasn't bombarded with a 24/7 stream of well-crafted messages to live for one's self and to give in to short-term gratification. We need something bigger and more important (and reasoned and real) to organize and direct our lives.

In any case, I want to thank you for bringing clarity to so many issues that have been portrayed as murky or insoluble by the fatally nuanced left. I call it the Star Trek Phenomenon: in "The Next Generation" series in particular, whenever a situation has many explanations, the most morally ambiguous or complicated approach is portrayed as the most "correct" one. Like so much else in modern culture, it is well-intentioned leftist advocacy that attempts re-educate us, short-circuiting and making us feel ashamed of our natural desire to see things in a morally unambiguous light.

But enough of that. Kudos! It was worth the wait.



Bill, thanks so much for the hard work it took to turn out this essay. I'll be applying the The Prisoner's Dilemma to a real-world demonstration in my classroom. It will fit hand and glove with the unit I teach on pacifism/non-violence. Axelrod has certainly put the science back in social science.

In regard to cheaters, I teach my students that the basis for any civilized society is voluntary compliance with the law. It's part of a short unit I teach on Rousseau and the nature of the social contract. Why do we in America voluntarily stop at traffic signals? No, it's not fear of getting a ticket. We do so because we recognize that voluntary compliance gets everyone through the intersection safer and faster. I contrast this with societies where compliance exists only by coercion. The society that plays by the rules is orderly, wealthy and free. The other type of society tends to be chaotic, unfree and poor.

Regarding The Remnant, I'll let you in on a secret that a few good teachers understand. We throw a lot of content at students over the course of an education, much of it irrelevant to anything they might need to know in the "real world". But the best of us are aware that a single word or idea, a reaction by us to a certain situation, or the way we model ourselves as adults, can have a profound affect on a young adult. Sometimes it will stick with that kid for the rest of his life. I am sure every reader of this post can look to his own education and site an example. But like the prophet, we never know what spark lit the fire. We know that it happens, just never when or how. So we persevere in the classroom knowing that the seeds we sew will eventually bear fruit, often in in unexpected ways.

I am, Mark Paules (aka Basil Riverdale), and I teach history, geography, ethics, government and economics. My gifts include using analogy and metaphor to bring clarity out of a mental tangle. I sometimes rant for the shear delight of providing rhetorical flourish to otherwise mundane ideas. So, slap me if I ever get out of hand. I am your friend and colleage in this place.

~Mark Paules - Teacher



I really like this essay. I have found that you can write about things that I cannot seem to put into words. I am one of those people that feels deep within that there is something wrong within our society today, yet I don't really know what to do. And I often wonder why others don't seem to see the same things. Now I see that I am not alone. Count me in.



It strikes me as sad that I thought that if you had written "STRAIGHT furry amputee latex fetishes" that would be considered intolerant....

It seems sometimes like there's some kind of COMPETITION going on on the other side as to who can be the most tolerant of the most outre' field. And the real experts at the game are out there advocating tolerance for Pedophiles and terrorists.



Hi, my name is Kender, CEO of Wide Awakes Radio. I know a bit about internet radio, a lot about horses, especially the racing variety and am a master of Snark-Fu and a follower of ST.FU, patron saint of sarcasm.



My name is Hurricane Mikey. I live in Las Vegas, and deal cards and dice for a living.

I'm good at basic Options trading, and used to make a living doing it and teaching it.

One thing I *can* do is teach, although mostly my interests run to sailing, premium rum, fine cigars, and trying to come up with a plan to spend more time sailing, drinking, and smoking than working.

I don't know what, if anything, I bring to the party.

Mikey



This community you seek to build already may exist in nascent form. The place is the AR15.com community. "ARFcom" is more than just a gun board. It is a, well, I just can't describe it. You would have to see it for yourself. By its nature, I would hazard to guess that a large proportion of the membership are already consciously or unconsciously part of the "Remnant", as you call it.
No need to re-invent the entire wheel if the axle and hub already exist...

Doc H.



Hey Everyone,

I'm MuscleDaddy (MuscleBaby gave me that one when she was 5).

By way of Career, I'm one of the people who "Tracks The Terrorist Funds" - which means 'heavy on the research and critical-thinking' - and I can teach that.

Other skills more immediately hands-on:
I've been a martial arts instructor for all of my adult life -
I've got a good, personal relationship with metal : welding, fabricating, forgework -
Much the same with wood - building, joinery, turning (not as good as w/metal) -
Machines : I love machines -
I've been described as one-helluva-shot (especially when I don't have time to think about it)
Some advanced first aid & field medevac.

I can improvise... nearly anything, in a pinch.

I remember everything.

I've spent a fair amount of time in police stations, explaining my actions, because historically I'm The Guy Who Just Can't Stay Out Of It.
(no arrests, so I guess my snap-judgements must be okay)

On Remnants: Character is what you do/think/say when you don't have time to think about it and think no-one's likely to be watching anyway.

You do not know, and will never know, who the Remnant are, nor what they are doing or will do.

...Reminds me of a line from Silverado:
"The thing about Payton, is that you never know what he's gonna care about."

1-10-100: We are each 1 - We touch 10 & they touch 100.

Let's see what they're gonna care about.

- MuscleDaddy



Pirate King, you asked, "what is keeping us safe now?"

The simplest answer: Roughly 1/2 a million men and women of the armed forces deployed throughout the world, trading tit-for-tat with those who would kill us...and doing it so YOU don't have to.



Hi Bill and everybody

My name is Miguel, I'm 46 and I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. And today I've decided to lurk no more.

To me, the Eject blog has been the source of awe and inspiration since I first found it a couple of years ago (through LGF). Even when I had read most of the essays online, I felt compelled to buy Silent America thru a friend in the States. This is a book I want my kids to read when their English becomes good enough.

The recent post about the Remnant made me think about the Lamedvavniks, a similar concept from Jewish mysticism. They're 36 "hidden" persons, inside whom God preserves the world's essence when everyone else fell into darkness and barbarism.

Also it reminded me of the self similarity on some fractal images, that can be recreated from a single "seed".

Food for thought, for sure...

Anyway, count me in from this corner of the world, where a candle is definitely needed.

Computers knowledge, Public Speaking and Analytical Problem Solving skills is what I have to offer...

Kind regards,
Miguel

PS : Bill, I always wanted to thank you for the gift of letting me know about P.J.O'Rourke.



We throw a lot of content at students over the course of an education, much of it irrelevant to anything they might need to know in the "real world".

I'm with Stephen Dutch (seen his stuff?); nothing is irrelevant, because life is an ongoing pop quiz. Every choice is an impromptu exam you may or may not have studied for- and the ability to pull a fact or a concept out of memory and apply it to your current circumstance (which requires that you UNDERSTAND what you learn) is what will get you through it.

That's why I personally am excited about this place; as C.N. Fuller pointed out, information repositories are all over the web, but they are all specialized. (And I am a denizen of many of them.) The cross-pollination of ideas and perspectives is what interests me.

Also, to the fellow who can teach philosophy (shall I call you Joe or Salamantis?): you are FAR from irrelevant here. One of the biggest battles as I see it is to reclaim philosophy- which is DAMNED important, as it is one of the systems we use to organize morality itself- from the people whose goal is obfuscation rather than clarity.

The stories are also important. (Hi, SgtMom! I remember you from the Sgt Stryker group blog.) I've always felt that the moment we became human as opposed to merely clever apes was when we used language to tell each other stories- about who we were and what we were and where we were going- as opposed to using it to tell each other which way the herds were going or where the best fruit was.



Warmest Greetings to all!!!

My name is Paul, and I am currently posting from Shajing (town), Shenzhen (City), China, (People's Republic of China). I will be here for 2 more weeks, then in the Atlanta area (home) for about a month, then back for a month, and so on for a while...

I am a business systems analyst, and specialize in the manufacturing planning and execution areas of software utilization. I help companies implement ERP Systems.

I can "teach" and consult on the above, of course, but also have interest in amateur astronomy, cosmology, physics, math, and much, much more. Don't feel qualified to teach the interests, but love to discuss...

I have a deep and abiding respect for Western Civilization, and hope to defend her from the various assaults she is under. I have realized, from Mr. Whittle's essays, that perhaps the best way to do that is to simply be the best I can be. It is certainly safe to say that my virtues need some attention and work.

The self-improvement potential from Ejectia! looks to be astounding. And it looks like it will be a FUN place, too! Come on in, and join in the personal, community, and civilizational growth!

Waiting to meet y'all there!!!



I can fix stuff with a soldering iron.

I am an independent computer techno geek, dedicated to making technology work for my customers. When taking a break from bit wrangling and Unix system administration, I rescue and restore vintage military and ham radio electronic equipment, especially shortwave radio communication gear, some of which is expected to survive the nuclear blast EMP in Bill's neighborhood.



Count me in.
Thanks for all the insights over the years Bill, we have missed your essays dearly the last few years.
Sometimes it seems that the most important thing for intelligent people to do is to constantly repeat what most thinking people consider obvious. We need to continually repeat these things to counter the constant leftist propaganda spouted from almost every other outlet.

We need to remember that we are not alone. People like Bill, and others, have a knack for putting ideas into words that resonates and inspires regular people. The same ordinary people who make America, and other parts of the world, great.
I am ready to help out where I can. In my career I have specialized in Civil Engineering - water resources, distribution and collection - but my degree is in Environmental Engineering. I have a wide variety of interests and hobbies that occupy my non-working hours, including photography, computers, home improvements/repair, bicycling, camping, hiking, fishing, etc. Most of my talents pale in comparison to the abilities of the other members of this loose confederation of like-minded individuals.

The most amazing thing about this post is the civility of the commenters. Where is the vitriol? Truther spam? Name Calling? Just the comments here are a clear example of an amazing community.



Greets, my name is Pete. IT, Shooting Guns, and ADHD. Life is terrific!



At risk of revealing a flaw in my reading/comprehension skills, I have to ask. Is it really possible to consciously choose to be part of this "Remnant" and doesn't the awareness of it's members effectively dampen the very "organic-ness" of it?



I just passed my 66th birthday. Seems so old when I write it down but I don't feel that way. I long to be a sheepdog. Since I can't, I write letters and prepare care packages for those who really are true sheepdogs.



Mark Paules - teacher...

Says it all.



So far, I think I like Matt's skill is the best. (5/21, 4:15PM)

I feel there's a pyramid of knowledge where at the peak you know everything about nothing, and at the base you know nothing about everything. I try to be closer to the bottom knowing a little about a lot of stuff.

I worked on computer servers, application support, and nuclear power plant instrumentation, but am currently "occupationally challenged". Have a private pilot certificate and instrument rating. Was working on the commercial cert., but the school & I parted ways. I also made the web site for our local Experimental Aircraft Assn. chapter (Link below.)

I start ridiculously complicated projects around the house. I built the New Yankee Workshop's gazebo, and they posted pictures of it where you order the plans on their site.

Right now I'm looking to start a business. Got an idea and am starting to write the business plan. One concern that's been bugging me for the past few weeks is that it can't be done by myself. Reading this site has got me thinking that I've got to make the effort to expand my circle of contacts. It's really not that difficult.



Count me in.
Motorcycle mechanics and metal machining is my passion, racing dirtbikes is my hobby, Designing trussed roofs and light gauge steel framed housing is my business. I can teach all three as well as cooking pretty well and having some skills as a DJ and record producer.
I'd really like to learn to play the bass guitar better than my current hunt and peck standard..



Tabletop Role-playing Adventure Design.

Novelist in thriller, and SF (and working on being able to write almost anything...except romance.)

Extremely quick at setting design...what most people would probably think of as counterfactuals, but its more of a cousin to that.

Futurist.

As to what the recent comment about organizing Remnants not working, let me say, put Service to God as first in your life, and you'll awaken the Remnant in your heart, and you'll probably find yourself going into wild and crazy places because God tends to stretch his followers. If you do this, in sincerity, the organization sterility which you seem to fear will be less problematic.



This reminded me of my pastor growing up explaining what "salt of the earth" meant in the Bible. That a few good people aligned against thousands basically keep evil at bay. Just like a little salt protects meat from rotting. Without the salt (remnant) society would implode. Those teachings never left me even now at almost 50 years of age. I think you are on to something.



Sending this article to my kids and grandkids. They are the future. I am a retired USMC Captain and can teach a number of things.

Great article - makes you THINK



Sending this article to my kids and grandkids. They are the future. I am a retired USMC Captain and can teach a number of things.

Great article - makes you THINK



Hi, I'm Rex and I am a real estate appraiser. I can teach that. I live in rural Mississippi and feel that if the electricity goes out, I can survive. I am a hunter and blogger (which I love) and have enjoyed your sane words and sense of community for some time. Thanks for reminding me that I am not alone.



Bill, you had me at Hello.

Chase, if you're manning the Lounge, I am a little embarrassed at defacing the brand new stall. I forgive myself the transgression by the understanding that it was writ upon a virtual Etch-A-Sketch.

The little angel on my shoulder whispered that into my ear.

Er, Dougman, nothin but net...

I love music, consume lots and produce little. Don't mind chatting about that sometime, but something else is coming.



Paul Dow,
"So far, I think I like Matt's skill is the best. (5/21, 4:15PM)"
Good catch, dude! Things are going so fast, I missed that one.



Hi,
I am a 'sheepdog'.
I served 7 years as a Surface Warfare Officer in the US Navy.
(Deck Officer, Navigator, Chief Engineer)
I have worked for over 15 years in retail credit.
I also have over 10 experience in retail.



What can I bring to Ejectopia?

Familiarity with Western Civilization and its values (and value)--a couple of Liberal Arts degrees worth.
Familiarity with PC and diversity (and the Gay/Women's/Urban/XX Studies movements) but not adherent to these as "equal" to the Greater Received Culture that binds us *all* together in this country. I can teach it, too.
I can teach writing, having done it at the college level for a while. Good communication and good thinking is necessary for a successful state.
Outdoor experience--living in the woods is fun!
Celticist (modern and past)--languages, history, art, literature and music.
Conservative with a foot in the Libertarian camp.
Some leatherwork on the side.

Got room for me there?



After reading Bill's idea my head nearly exploded, as if every single neuron fired off in simultaneous agreement. How could I not be on board this ?
I guess I'm a relative youngster although I do believe I can bring a lot to the table. I have a degree in computer engineering, work in the field of industrial control systems and server full time in my country's uniform. I like nothing better than to sit down and craft a computer program, either in a language I have never used before or one that I know extensively. I love dogs, I have two of my own. I believe in ideas such as courage and honor and selflessness. I'm a proud Aussie, and to anyone from anywhere who wishes to visit this fine country of mine I can tell you anything you wish to know, and if I don't know it myself I will find it.
I haven't decided yet what I hope to learn from this endeavour, only that I will learn whatever I can.



Greetings -

Upon reading this post I was reminded of, and commend to you, the book "After Virtue" by Alasdair MacIntyre (the book's content is actually opposite of that of what the title might suggest: McIntyre is arguing for the virtues, in a period "after", he believes, their content has been lost and confounded).

I don't agree with everything he writes, but it's very much worth reading and I learned much from it - and he was writing in the same vein as you are.

V/R,

SGT Ruhland, James H.
8th Squadron, 10th U.S. Cavalry
4th BCT, 4ID(M)



Hello, all. My name is Lance Salyers, and I live in SW Ohio. I'm a lawyer by license, and a criminal prosecutor by trade, which is all I've ever used my law degree for. In other words, if you have questions about crime, law enforcement, or the criminal justice system, I can help you. As for questions about wills, trusts, taxes, property lines, and everything else that is the civil practice of law: sorry, can't help ya.

Teaching? I don't know about that -- that's my wife's calling. However, I do have stories, and enjoy telling them: about justice and truth and courage; villany, barbarism, and abuse. Yes, folks, there are barbarians within the walls, only they didn't scale them -- they were raised inside them.

"My gifts include using analogy and metaphor to bring clarity out of a mental tangle. I sometimes rant for the shear delight of providing rhetorical flourish to otherwise mundane ideas. So, slap me if I ever get out of hand. Mark: I couldn't have said it better myself, so I didn't. Which means I guess I'm also good at finding ways to not reinvent the wheel, so to speak. :-)

Beyond my professional expertise, I dabble in html and digital graphics, though nowhere in the league of those already assembled.

Lastly, but not leastly, I've been a father a short time, a husband a lot longer, and a Christian my whole life. These, too, are open topics for my discussion.

Bill: as you know, I used to blog until the activity cost me dearly. In the nearly two years since, I've never commented on a blog out of fear. That changed about a week ago, all due to the clarity, vision, and goodness of your voice. Thank you.



Otto,
Translation, please!
I wasted about an hour at work today trying to figure that out. Is "Blastofarti" really Latin?

PS I left a note for you on "Building Ejectia!"



Hi Bill,

Most provoking article I've read in a good long while. I sent it to my wife and eldest son, and will be curious to get their takes one it. I can teach how not to sing or dance (like the karate guy, just how to do that over the web is a bit of a stumper), can teach poetry and logic 101 (if your principles keep beating the living snot out of each other depending on situational convenience, it's how you raised them, fool), and bits of this and that. I believe I can still learn. Adding this to my favorites so I hope to visit your buildings as they rise and spread. Don't recall that you mentioned a bar, harrumph.

JB



Hello, Remnant!

I am the co-author and designer of the blog/website http://www.britsattheirbest.com/
(the worst having been thoroughly covered elsewhere). We feature a Liberty Timeline, Science Timeline, heroes, artists, entrepreneurs, and we keep building our files. Our idea is this. On a spring hike not too long ago we talked about how good it would be to read about Greeks at their best, Tibetans at their best, Italians, Czechs, Americans. Everyone brings the people they know and love and shares them and we end up loving and standing by people who once were strangers.

We propose a place high in the mountains (no valley without mountains) where the Remnant who lived in the past can be remembered and turned to for wisdom and inspiration. . .

We can contribute the website brits.

We've talked about the virtues (we also call them powers) at --http://www.britsattheirbest.com/brits_around_the_world/w_a_few_ideas.htm
For the Brits these powers came from the best of the Classical and Judaeo-Christian traditions. There are other sources for other peoples. Tell us about them. Create a hall, a garden, a view in that castle where men and women and children can be inspired, and strengthened.

We'll listen, contemplate, act.

Hoping to meet you again, and wishing us all the best, Cat



Sorry to drop back in guys, but I had to share this bit.

TBinSTL asked:
Is it really possible to consciously choose to be part of this "Remnant" and doesn't the awareness of it's members effectively dampen the very "organic-ness" of it?

I don't think it's so much choosing to be a part of the Remnant, as like knowing like when the whole thing starts circling the drain - more knowing that something needs to be done and knowing that you're going to try even though you know the odds are against any chance of success.

I fear we may be closer to that circling that we may want to believe - and we're just now looking around to see who's standing, who's running ad who's choosing not to pay attention.

Which brings me to one of my favorite parts by one of my favorite SF Authors - which I now share with you as illustration:


The dream is always the same:
We're trying to make our escape from Hell, millions of us streaming down the endless rows of gym lockers, past the searing lava showers, toward the glowing Open sign, and safety.
Behind us, the demons come.
Some are clouds of acid fog, others are huge wolves or curiously mutated cats.
They're all chasing us, and they're all getting closer, and we're not all going to escape.
"We'll hold then here," Karl Cullinane shouts.
"Who stands with me?" The crowd rushes away leaving some of us behind...

...and the crowd rushes away - who's left?

- MuscleDaddy



I've worked in a printing shop for 17 years, and am familiar with all aspects of pre-press work. But no way would I call myself a "graphic artist". I just churn stuff out.

I'm pretty well-organized and have attention to detail. I'm a perfectionist, but that can sometimes be self-limiting, e.g., "the perfect is the enemy of the good".

What am I good at and what can I teach? I'm kind of stumped. Those are pretty sobering questions.

I know a little bit about everything but nothing much about anything.



Hey everyone. I'm Charlie. 30 years old...Property Manager...could help you with real estate advice and tenant/landlord issues. I also own and run my own karaoke shows, so I can help with electronics, audio visual, and DJ questions. I would love to continue to learn film/theater, and also get some debating practice. I'm in Bill!!!



Hey everyone. I'm Charlie. 30 years old...Property Manager...could help you with real estate advice and tenant/landlord issues. I also own and run my own karaoke shows, so I can help with electronics, audio visual, and DJ questions. I would love to continue to learn film/theater, and also get some debating practice. I'm in Bill!!!



Hey everyone. I'm Charlie. 30 years old...Property Manager...could help you with real estate advice and tenant/landlord issues. I also own and run my own karaoke shows, so I can help with electronics, audio visual, and DJ questions. I would love to continue to learn film/theater, and also get some debating practice. I'm in Bill!!!



Otto, daddyquatro, Is that you? I feel like a 5 year old in the crowd at the ballgame. F5 button just popped off... again!

Dougman, I can't event find the window here tonight to complain about the view out the front window in The Chase Lounge.

BTW: Anybody know where Chase is? I think he is going to need to build out a bit.



Great post. I shall print it out and look at it again.

LEt me quibble with your immigration example though.

Millions of Americans from big business to Gulf Coast Homeowners ravaged by Hurricanes to Moms hiring Nannys have hired illegal Aliens. They have profited off their labor. Now since they have been doing this for 30 years there is a problem. Many of these ALiens have roots here and in fact have American Children. Solution- Deport or starve all these people across the border now that we and our neighbors have used them to help us individually(like my neighbor) or as a job force to help fuel the Economy.

Get our cake and not have to deal with the consequences. Well most of us that is.

THose Cheaters do win do they not in your scenario?

JH
Louisiana

biglsusportsfan@yahoo.com



I have never posted a response before on any blog before. I was moved to take action after reading Bill's comments. I do not believe I KNOW we are are connected thru energy. We are all suppose to be here posting and learning and thinking. I am a real estate investor and and also remodel bathrooms. I would be honored to answer any questions in these areas. I am so excited and proud to live in a country that allows me to do whaterver I can dream up. Count me in. I am ready to take back this country and make it truly free again. I have found a home. Thanks you Bill



Not nearly as talented as so many others here, but I have an amateur interest in meteorology and anti-statism. I can use a rifle and a chainsaw, know my way around the kitchen,and can make Excel do some pretty interesting things. Delighted to be part of this community.



Hello there. Very interesting post. I have some skills in web design and javascript/java programming.

My primary interest though is in the social rules that will govern this. The nice thing about the Prisoner's Dilemma is that that betrayal is obvious, there is a clear method of retaliation, and the retaliation is (almost by definition) proportional.

In the case of Ejectia, how is betrayal defined, how do we ensure that the retaliation is appropriate? Will there be judges of some sort to adjudicate these things.

Making a metaverse that is more than just a combination meat market/porn paradise is going to be an interesting project.



Good stuff Bill. Thanks.

I'm an Adobe After Effects and 3D animator. I've also been working with Adobe Photoshop for about ten years.

Like most people here I have a deep love of history. A knowledge of the past that has helped to keep me grounded for the past seven years.
I also love the history of American motion pictures and classic animation. I can watch a Looney Tunes scene and tell you who directed it, and in what year it was made, within one year. That skill always impresses the ladies. (Okay, not at all, really.)

I know enough to know how little I know.



Hi, Monster here. I'm a computer techie by trade, with a strong background in mathematics and hard sciences. I just turned 46, and had the good sense to listen to my late father talk about what things were like when he was a lad. This historical perspective informs me that government high school students today do not study subjects that were required when my father was a student. I have come to the conclusion that this is part of a deliberate 'dumbing down' of the populace to prevent them from the intellectual awareness that could spark them joining The Remnant of Civilization.

Perhaps one of my best strengths is in breaking down complex knowledge and repackaging it in terms that the non-technical person finds accessible. Because my parents insisted that their children speak proper English, with correct spelling and usage, I can proofread the work of others.

I understand that I'm a dinosaur in this respect: Most people think that these things are unimportant. I beg to differ. I am convinced that sloppy use of language not only makes communication difficult, it impedes the ability to think clearly.

That pays off in my line of work, in that co-workers come to me to troubleshoot a situation, having accepted implicitly many unwarranted assumptions. More often than not, we spend more time proving wrong these things they 'know' are true than we do actually fixing the problem.

I mention this because it's a microcosm of the problem we're up against. The system is designed not to let people learn epistemology, so the average person is, as the Godfather puts it so well, a "skull full of mush". Lacking critical thinking skills, they are swayed by the first two-bit con man or demagogue who comes along.

I am convinced absolutely that the only way we can win this struggle is intellectually, because that is where we're losing it.

I understand that our host does not share my faith, but I hope he forgives me making Scriptural reference (Eph 6:13 et. seq.):

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God
I trust Ejectia will have the finest armorers.



Fifty people a day! Can you imagine 50 people a day comin' in, singin' a bar 'a "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out?

Yes, I know. I have this horrible dichotomy of loving a lot of the music that represents the flowering of the progressive movement and being a conservative myself. Guess I'm just a complex dude in some ways, though I hate to say it because in reality, I'm pretty simple. I tend to look for what's good in things, take it, and leave the crap behind.

I'll tell you, Bill, you got me fired up. I feel like I could go in now and drop the quarterback of the opposing team for a crushing 15 yard loss and do a pirhouette with my fist in the air -- all in the same movement. (If only it were 3rd and long already! Alas, i fear it is not. I feel the opponent has crossed our "50" and has the momentum.)

The reason I started to blog was a place to go to become prepared, to practice my feeble skills to become just the sort of beacon you described. So far, I have sucked, but I've sucked less badly than I had before, and that is an improvement. I've had the courage to take on the wisdom of "the masses", however infrequently, and say "Nay, it is not so! This is the way it is." It is better than I did before. And it is because I have taken the time to think things out ahead of time ...

which is what you have to do when you write. And my speaking up has taken root in some people I know who have some respect for me -- because of the reserve of honor I've managed to save up from the rest of my life. So it does some good.


On a good day, 15 people may read my blog. I like to think of it as ripples from a stone in a pond. But the most important function it serves is for me to organize my thoughts for real live interactions with people, face to face. I'm pretty unassuming, so it doesn't happen very often. I pick my battles very carefully, and it takes quite a bit of gumption for me to whip out the cluebat.

Alarm bells went off a few times as I read your post -- alarm bells of David Koresh, Jim Jones, and that wierd cult that tried to hitch a ride on a comet. But I see that those very alarm bells have gone off in you as well, and that you recognize "the Remnant" for what it is. It is something deep inside of a person that causes one to Do The Right Thing when most others will not. I recognize it in you because of your language. You're not a prophet to be followed, but a roadsign with an important message. It is the message that is important. Otherwise you're just a green sign with reflective lettering. That not withstanding, I will always recognize your shade of green, my friend.

I actually tried to come up with another blog on which I began to sum up the virtues you discussed -- I was writing it as a collection of thoughts for my own step-children and god-children and for anyone else who happened along on it. It gets more hits than my "political blog", even though it is much shorter and is MUCH less often updated. And believe me, you have given me some new ideas for it.

Anyway, as usual, you did a great job, and I'll thank Rachel (whom I've only heard the legend of and read a few of her old posts up to now) for getting you started. The cool thing is, I like to warn people not to get a big head. With you, I don't worry. You're not the type. I know that because I recognize the "me" in you just by reading your stuff.

What can I teach people? I don't know. I don't know. I enjoy playing with survival skills -- not that I'm some sort of survival freak, but I think basic Boy Scout skills are essential to a sense of self-reliance, and self-reliance is essential to a sense of independence, and independence to freedom. I am extremely empathetic, even to a fault -- but not to the point of non-retaliation. When the trigger trips, the adrenaline will run and you probably don't want to be the entity that tripped it. That being said it is not a hair trigger, and when I go off no doubt you deserve what you get. Ok, I'm digressing. A lot.

I'll tell you what. If someone asks a question and I know the answer -- and I know a lot of answers about a lot of things (I'm a bit of a McGyver), I'll pipe up and help. I've written programs to migrate data to and from disparate systems. I have trapped rabbits and squirrels. I've managed computer systems. I've figured out people's computer problems over the phone when I had little idea what they were looking at. I've butchered pigs and chickens and planted potatoes and canned green beans. I've built houses. I've taken electronic and mechanical devices apart, fixed them, and put them back together. (I once fixed a tape-deck motor with a staple, a strip of razor blade, and some solder. It worked for 5 years after that.) I've chopped and split wood for warmth. I've made beer. I've forecasted weather. I even fiddle with the guitar. I'm an OK photogapher. Dang. Now that I think of it, I can do a lot of stuff. I even listen pretty well.

Ejectia sounds like a cool place.

Just need to work on that T-Shirt.





Blastofartian? Didn't see where that came from.

But like "dead heads", we could become "Blastofarians" (after Rastafarians).

Like Bill said, it's best to keep your sense of humor about you.



"Throughout history, civilizations rise and fall. They fall for the same reason, by my reading of history: the lack of will to defend her, a cancer which starts not from the bottom but invariably from the top. A fish rots from the head, say the Russians, who ought to know. From Nero to Chamberlain, the elites evolve away from an understanding that retaliation against the lawless and the barbaric is not a vice but a virtue. They take the manifest blessings of civilization as a given and foist their own personal guilt and moral cowardice upon the entire city. They open the gates to the savage peoples who have always stood outside of progress and gentleness and culture."

Wow...somebody call John Bartlett...

As for me, I am a pretty advanced MS Office user, a drug research associate and Q/A Manager. I can teach you how to bore someone to death.



Bill,

Thank you.

If college students are allowed into Ejectia!, I would be honored.



I am a mechanical engineer, with experience in designing heavy equipment for mills. Can help with most related computer software packages (AutoCAD, solid modelling, etc.). Have work experience from retail, home construction, to nuclear propulsion systems. Very timely essay Bill, just got a bug this weekend to start a blog and try to add one more voice to the symphony. (or something).



Hi! I go by the handle RiotNrrd, or "Riot" if you just can't bring yourself to type the final four characters. I'm a software engineer. Skills? Just oddball ones. I am fluent in writing in Esperanto, and mid-level at speaking it (and can teach it). Why Esperanto? Because it's the easiest freakin' language in the world to learn, and lets me communicate fully and clearly with an interesting cross-section of every nation\culture on the face of the planet (a small cross-section, true, but a very widespread one).

I also compose electronic music, but don't think I can teach it.



The following is from "Owen's Alligator", a work in progress due out sometime this Fall. Sargon of Sumer, Anunnaki Spirit and God-king, addresses Greenslip na Budforth of Elfland:

"Nothing exists in isolation, or ever stays the same. Existence entails quantity, relation, substance-- how many of what kind, how durably disposed? We assert that Being Exists in Essence as Potential, for being and becoming, growth-and-change is nature's sole discernible reality. What mind first tallies, hand-and-eye aligns-- so we address imagined worlds, in harmony and proportion each-to-each.

"Therein lies Beauty, real and true, construed by number but not fixed, never so resolved. And so like number, nothing of beauty finds an end. Mind's Eye encompasses only imperfection. New contexts, perspectives vary on old themes, portending infinitely many Noble Strains. Numbers equate, words rhyme, but they both sing.

"We do but sojourn here. Heed your first duty, abiding laws and customs to sustain yourself, for what you do accredits who you are. Regard fair youth as comely countenances of fine old age, for on our voyage these are farther shores. Generous and kind, cherish principle, Honor above all. Bequeath posterity Wise Learning in Right Cause, an affirmation of discernment, trust. Who flees fatality pursues not Life."

"Some harken as do Logothetes, but most hear only words," the King of Elfland said.

"Certain schools maintain that words are all we have, so all we have are words." Sargon snorted. "Words echo voices of the dead. How else bespeak Ideas? Here be Dragons, in terra incognita on blank charts... reality takes us all for fools."

* * *

Two Worlds of matter and spirit spin apart. Salvation lies in one who may bestride them both.
Such a true Warrior shall choose the field himself, possessing only a Hand, an Eye, a Blade of Grass. Be warned, for such a one is with us yet, e'en now-- a Merry One, akin to rain and wind, who sings a Music of the Spheres and does a dance. There is only the Dance.



All things considered, I have a rather specialized talent, though of how much value is debatable.

I work in international relocation and international freight forwarding. I can help you sell your house in Anywhere World, quote and book your full door to door move via air and ocean, find and get you settled into a new home at your new Anywhere World address, all while offering limited customs clearance, visa, immigration and tax advise (we need lawyers and CPA's for the full download.) And while saving for my wedding and first house, I worked part-time at the Home Depot paint desk. I can talk circles re: paint and or deck stains.

Sadly, I feel I will be a lonely giver of advice due to my rather specialized area of expertise. but I'll try my best. If anyone can make something happen through reputation alone, Bill is probably that guy.



Wow. This is one ambitious project you've cooked up here. But what the hell, if a bunch of cave-dwelling jackasses can convince themselves they can destroy western civilization, why can't we all save it? I was raised redneck, educated at a big-ten school, and can surprise myself at the stuff I can puzzle through. For the sake of my wife and kids, let me help.



Thanks, Bill, for another essay that articulates ideas that have been gnawing away at me, but which I couldn't get out in coherent fashion. I've been lurking here for a while and I'm not sure what I have to offer. I work in corrections. Although I'd never thought about it this way, I guess what I do for a living is teach kids fresh out of college who want to be in corrections that for community programs like mine to work, there has to be more to what we do than just the "retaliation" part of the tit-for-tat scenario.



As always, your words resonate deeply within me. I have some skills, which I've mentioned in previous posts. Those skills may or may not interest others. Whatever I know, though, I can teach. And I'd be honored to take part in such a project.

Speaking of skills that may or may not interest others, I think that I need to design a beer with Ejectia in mind. Something bold and satisfying. Something that hits your taste buds quickly and lingers for a while.

I'll be back.



I'm SkyeChild, and I taught English composition at a local university for 14 years. Yep, I'm one of those people who makes everyone cringe and excuse their grammar.

I'm one heck of a proofreader and editor, as well.

So, while I can't program, build stuff, do science experiments, balance checkbooks, and stuff like that, if you need anything looked over, let me know.

I DO have a blog, but it's not political...just my ramblings. I tried to make it a quiet, restful place for when the world is just plain NUTS.



Scottybill:
But what the hell, if a bunch of cave-dwelling jackasses can convince themselves they can destroy western civilization, why can't we all save it?

Hee.



Unquiet! Unquiet!
Over here!
...jumps up waving arms over crowd...
Haven't heard from Chase, but he said he was on a travel day. We're going to need more taps, more tables, and maybe a dance floor.

I hope the crowd doesn't scare Dougman away.

This many typos can be a daunting responsibility.

I still like my idea of The Chase Lounge mascot.

Like I said, I'm a piker but my hands are here if you need them.

D4/Stan



I'm Derek, and I'm a computer guy. I do some programming, I do some testing, I do a lot. I'm eager to learn what the citizens of Ejectia! will be willing to teach, and that seems to be...everything.



hi!!-- call me snake ok?---i'd like to ask bill if he could put some kind of counting mechanism in ejectia so we can see the community grow?--something that would not record multiple hits from one person, but would show the actual number of people moving in?-- hey!--i had an idea!!--good for me!!



Holy cow! I think I may just know what to do when a dirty bomb is detonated. Radioactive fallout? They taught us proper response in a two week school I attended out in New Mexico during my Explosive Ordnance Disposal days in the Air Force. Speaking of WMDS and general nasty stuff, I could probably still nuetralize a few IED's. Could that be taught? Perhaps, but maybe identification and what NOT to do would be a great starting point. Just call me Craig. And when I am not digging up unexploded ordnance for an environmental firm (and you), I dabble in building computers and try to improve myself. So, I guess this does sound like the place for me.



Oh Yes, I'm in.

What Do I do best?

I pick other people's ideas apart. Tell me your plan and I'll tell you what's wrong with it. Amateur problem finder that's me.



I'm a programmer by trade; my favorite title is Daddy. Some of the most fun I have had in my life has been tutoring or teaching: algebra, calculus and chemistry in college and at my first job, 2 to 4 year olds in Sunday school, ham radio to all ages.

I know a few things about F-15 hydraulics, armament loading and air conditioning, alot about about making an Oracle database store things usefully and give back information efficiently, and about how to use the X12 standards for EDI in a retail or warehousing environment. Right now I'm helping people cut their taxes while they figure out how to pay for their health care.

My hobby is ham radio, which I think is going to grow more popular among the Remnant. Having more than one way to communicate can be vital. Knowing more than just how to twist the knobs but how that stuff inside the box works..that will be an important skill when the box stops working due to fire or flood. Or EMP. Hams do much more than morse code (satellites, microwaves, TV & digital networks), but many, many thousands of us still do morse code because we know that when things are really bad, it can be the only thing available.

Most of all, I've recognized I'm here, on this planet, at this time, to help. If I have skills of any use to anyone, they were given to me by God expressly for the purpose of being useful.



I'm proud to join, and hope I can contribute something! I'm a Public Health Nurse, doing Epidemiology, Disease Control and Public Health Preparedness. A lefty sort of milieu, but a good job. Fortunately, when you get down to my work-a-day level, Public Health & Preparedness are done by practical, get-it-done-right folks who don't like the PC politics we have to work around. That's a plus. I've been hoping for something like Ejectia for years. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU



I just want to say this is a fascinating and exciting idea. Off the top of my head I don't know what I have to offer but I'm willing to jump in as I figure it out.

The glimmer of promise is a bright and wonderful thing. Some days a little hope is exactly what is needed. Thank you for this beacon of both.



I like the spirit of the people that post here.

I really am not alone. It's good to meet you all. Thank you, Bill.

I want more lawyers like Mike Keonecke.



I like the spirit of the people that post here. I really am not alone. It's good to meet you all. Thank you, Bill. I want more lawyers like Mike Keonecke.



It'll be a walk in the park to crush the deluded Third-world mobs of religious fundamental fascists who come out of the Middle East. But it will take will power, and that is what our nation lacks. Determination, focus, cohesion, perspective, respect, cooperation, and above all else: lose the egoist attitude. Believe in some things that are larger than yourselves, that is, your God, your family, and your nation. Then stand up for your belief in what is right. Don't let everyone stand up for their own, selfish, individual "rights" that really are ego trips. Build up what is best for civilization. And KNOCK DOWN (or push back) at those influences and people that are destructive to civilization. PUSH BACK, thank you, that was an enlightening piece of thinking. PUSH BACK, people, at those empty-headed elitist thugs who run the newspapers, TV news, magazines, and of course in all levels of government. PUSH BACK. Don't let idiots pass laws protecting illegal immigrants. It makes as much sense to protect bank robbers, after all, banks have a lot of money, losing a few grand won't hurt them, and it HELPS the bank robbers. Right? NO! Be tough but fair. Express opinions that make sense and lend support to the Good in society and that suppress the Evil.

Gasp!! Tough but fair? But that sounds "judgemental"!! Why, you'd have to go and tell people what your opinion is, and you might end up "offending" someone. We live in a era where that is Totally Unacceptable, don't you know yet?

Poppy cock. How are society's mores established and how are they are sustained? By expressing your opinion about other people's choices and behaviors. We are free to the extent that we maintain our portion of the responsibility of running the nation. That ain't unlimited freedom. Push back in a tough but fair way.

BTW I'm an aerospace engineer, I work for NASA, and I enjoyed reading some of this web page. I'd be happy to discuss flight, spaceflight, what experience I have.

PS Imagine the Palistinian Authority cooperating with international partners to send a space probe to Mars for pure scientific research.
PPS Or Al Quaida sponsoring a technical conference where astronomical researchers present the latest theories of the universe.
PPPS Or the grand opening of Taliban University to churn out thousands of curious, optimistic biologists who travel the world to uncover nature's wonders to the benefit of mankind.
Makes you wonder.



I just realized that I messed up on my blog link earlier. That comes from not using it much, and the lateness of the hour.

It's fixed in this post. 8-)



philmon,
Dude, could you teach me some of that stuff?

That, in my never to be humble opinion, was the post of the night. 8:15

D4/Stan



Bill,
I am a small town lawyer in mid-north Indiana. I told my employees of your writings and have encouraged my adult children to read your recent work. I started with Tribes.

I write occasional columns for my home town paper, am a conservative, have authored two books in the past nine months for children in the 5th thru 12th grades (I write to encourage students to think of the importance of honor, bravery, constancy, and friendship in the face of a growing threat); I bake cookies meriting high regard within the community. I love history and feel the power that comes from understanding events in a historical context. I have been a deputy prosecutor and am now a public defender. Last year the U.S. Supreme Court agreed with my argument made in a criminal trial and reversed the trial court, court of appeals and Indiana Supreme Court giving new life to the Confrontation Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

I will watch as your idea for Ejectia grows and thrives. I know that your commenters and I have much in common. We do act as the mortar binding the bricks in the edifice known as civilization.



Wow, go away for a few hours, and look what happens! Looks like I'm late to the party as usual.

Well, as I said in the even more informal introductions a few threads ago, I, like others here, am mostly a generalist. I make my living developing Web Aplications, but I sold my soul to Microsoft and do all my work in Visual Studio. Before that, I did technical support for Windows-based computers.

I'm not actually organized enough to do formal teaching, but I can explain things when asked, and I can usually get the explanation across to anyone, even the technically uninclined.



What an interesting idea, this Ejectia! It sounds great, suffused with hope. But you have to know that there will come those who try to sabotage it. The loud-mouth yahoos can be recognized and dealt with easily, but far more difficult are the skilled and subtle sappers. One example to consider is Wikipedia, where particularly contentious or delicate topics have been twisted back and forth by partisan factions. The tit-for-tat strategy will suffice to deal with such people only if everyone who contributes is somehow held accountable by the participants. I fear my imagination is insufficient to grasp how this can be achieved.

Anyway, I have only the best wishes for this endeavor, as I have a vested interest in the perpetuation of our Western civilization -- two vested interests, actually, aged 3 and 1 respectively.

Looking forward to my hard-cover second edition!



philmon said:


I'll tell you, Bill, you got me fired up. I feel like I could go in now and drop the quarterback of the opposing team for a crushing 15 yard loss and do a pirhouette with my fist in the air -- all in the same movement. (If only it were 3rd and long already! Alas, i fear it is not. I feel the opponent has crossed our "50" and has the momentum.)

Ah, man, they don't have the momentum yet. They just pulled off a couple big plays.

If you want that sack dance, just get the quarterback in your sights. I'll get in front of you and plow the road!



I go by Miss Ladybug online. I usually hang out around some of the milblogs, and check in here when there's a new essay up. Found Eject!Eject!Eject! back when the Tribes post was newly posted. Since then, I have started my own blog. Even have a post that was influenced by what I read in Tribes.

I have a BBA in Accounting that I never fully made use of. I did software support/training for a proprietary retail store management system for about eight and a half years (also managed the department for a time), moved "back home" after finding another software support job, was bored with that job so I went back to school. Earned my M.Ed. this past December and am currently looking for that first teaching job (EC-4th grade).

What can I teach? I guess lots of little things. I taught users of greatly varied comfort levels with computers how to use software to do textbook and general merchandise management, point-of-sale, accounting, and even E-commerce, and was also able to walk customers through various kinds of hardware troubleshooting. I think I'll be a good elementary school teacher - I refuse to abandon the children stuck in public education (for whatever reason) by leaving public education to the liberal/left-leaning crowd (case in point - in a classroom I subbed in last week, there was a poster of Che on the wall - in a 5th grade "bilingual" classroom...).

Besides my "professional skills", I like to cook (though I haven't done that much lately), I like to do counted cross-stitch (and I can teach someone how), I like to dabble with photography (with my "point and shoot" digital camera - I'd love to have a really fancy one!). I'm sure there's more, but I can't think of it right now.



I'm Pete and like Mr. du Toit and others I know a little about a lot of stuff. I seem to be an expert at failing businesses though (me and my big ideas). Something's gotta stick someday.

Have lived the last two years or so in Central America speaking bad Spanish and am currently attempting to open a bar with only "a lone olive floating in a jar" (ht: Pirate King y Spouse).

For whatever it means I'm in. Whatever I can do I will. Thanks Bill.



Greetings fellow travelers. I've been looking for y'all a long time. Please count me in, too. I teach English and Social Studies to teens and young adults in a public school; I believe in studying and honoring the great masters of this beautiful language and our foundations in freedom. I'm also a massage therapist and a CERT volunteer (Community Emergency Response Team).

A 19th/20th century metaphysician, Florence Scovel Shinn, spoke to thoughtful women and men saying,"Owing to the vibratory power of words, whatever man voices, he begins to attract." My best wishes to Ejectia.

Mo



Hi, All,

What Kim du Toit said about what he knows describes me too.

I'm 61, an at-home dad to a 13-year-old young woman, retired (recovering) lawyer (transactional), and way back in my checkered past was an engineer. I worked on nuclear submarines and on building car bodies, and know a little bit about electric utilities. I once had a private pilot's license but never got my IR, like to sail (and could probably teach a bit of it) and have an average set of life experiences for someone my age. I live in SoCal.

Bill, your essay has struck a chord with me. I'd be honored to contribute whatever I can.



51 Year old dad of 3 who is madly in love with his brilliant wife. She is the one you want cause she is just about the smartest person I know.

Me, I can teach Judo, shooting, carpentry, tiling, auto mechanics, homeschooling, flying, at one point was building a Long Ez and some other stuff that probably might help. Trying to get over my deep seated anger at the political class for screwing up so badly.

Trying to live up to:

Heinlein - Specialization is for Insects
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.



RobS~

What type of books are those you have written, and are they published? I'm always looking for books I could use or add to my growing classroom library, but I won't be teaching any higher than 4th grade. I've bought all but Lynne Cheney's most recent picture book, and I found a series by Heather French Henry on American holidays. I want to help my future students become proud Americans who appreciate all that our nation offers, and to value the sacrifices of those who have made it all possible...



OMG Bill! Please don't ever stop blowing my mind. Your essay is Brilliant.

Accountant and mommy of 3 willing to help out as needed.



Pierre,
Oddly enough, that quote has been used here before.
I think that might be the remnant creed.
Those who get it.
Got it.
Those who don't.
Don't.

Welcome.



Hello again Bill, this stuff just blows me away, I just love it.
I am a Wood expert, anything to do with wood, carving, building furniture, and like I said before, I make mean wooden fishing lures.



Bill,

Thank you for such an inspiring essay. Your timing is perfect. Count me in.

ter0



Bill, been reading you for years,but never commented. Thank you so much for such a brilliant essay on the inner workings of civilization.
No special talents here, worked in the chemical/refinery business for 22 years.
Now I'm into gardening, horses, raising a good chicken and a few pigs.
I would like to join in on this experiment called
Ejectia.



Well daddyquatro the wifey/warden gets all the credit...without her I might still be drinking in New Orleans and waiting tables. She reminded me how much I had loved character when I was growing up. She quietly reminded me that honor was not just some word in the dictionary. I don't know if I have what it takes to be part of the remnant...but I am sure that she does.



Good reading. I may be inspired to get to bed at a decent hour so that I have the energy to strive for self improvement. I battle for the developement of this country. Goodnight.



My word, what a lot of contributors!
I know a little about small sailboats, just getting into shooting, and re-introducing myself to bicycling (not to be green, just to enjoy it).
I'm going on 72 and have 8 children - 7 daughters. I think I understand some of the teachings in the New Testament.
I hoped I can just come along and read and learn!



Gini,
I'm serious about needing a mentor. The great thing about the internet is that there is so much information. The bad thing about the internet is that there is tooooooooooooo much information.
I've googled "home school" and spent the better part of a day, no wiser than I was at the start.
I need to talk to someone who has done it.

D4/Stan



Desert Sailor,
Of my quatro, three are daughters.
But seven?
You have my utmost respect.
I think I've found another teacher.
11, 7 & 5.
Help Me!



My name is Patrick S Lasswell, I live in Oregon. I know sonar and I can teach practical history, personal international security, and current events in Iraqi Kurdistan.



I am Christian by conviction, but not into the organixed religion bit. I gave up Catholicism for Lent ;) I don't care what faith you practice as long as you don't try to harm people for not believing what you do.

I am a computer prograsmer by trade. Cook, Bottle-Washer and Daddy by choice, Sheepdog-in-training. I am a pretty fair BS detector by nature, Persistant and focused by nature too. Font-of-Minutiae, I can learn enough about anything to manage. I will bug the crap out of you with stupid questions till i get it. I can teach just about anything I know.

there are some things I can't do due to a physical handicap (drive a car,ride a bike, etc) but I don't let that stop me. it just slows me down a little.

are we building a source code repository for Civilization?

let's fix things so that we don't have to go through the build-destroy-rebuild cycle as before.. it's a pain in the ass and gets in the way of real progress.

Count me in.



Hi,
My name is Jared Priest, from Federal Way, Washington. I know alittle about alot of things, but always willing to learn and help others learn.
That I would have to say was the best essays I have read ever. I'm in



There are a number of places on and offline where this whole thing has been taking place on a very modest level of largely individual actions and activities, which are really where the rubber meets the road.

The Ejectia concept can (and apparently will) provide a point of crystallization - and be a means of moving towards the absolutely essential second renaissance of Western Civilization.

I'm not sure how this will all come together any more than anyone else is at this point, but it'll sure be an interesting trip!

We need to think a bit more about how to implement this other than having a big string of posts here saying in effect "I can do this, and show you how". The sentiment is right, I'm just wondering a bit about the mechanics of how it all will start working.

Let the games begin!



Very timely post, Bill - with the current Immigration fiasco showing how outa touch many US politicians are. In Europe there is a similar situation, with the politicians wanting a Constitution that the people don't. And always, behind everything, the Islamist threat that at least half the population are ignoring, while consumed with the imaginary threat of Global Warming and Bush Derangement Syndrome - what are they gonna do when the Earth starts cooling and W leaves office and the Jihadists remain, ever-stronger?

Thanks for the very clear description of our predicament. I'm kinda drained by it, right now, so I'm glad some of us are still thinking clearly and optimistically. My only solice right now is the "Right Wing" Blogs (most of those in your Blog Roll) and Fox News - and flying, of course ;)

I like the blue color scheme, and clouds - perfect! And the galaxy as our destination - reminds me of the RAF "Per Ardua ad Astra"!

And Rachel, dont give up on politics - give em Hell!



My name is Robert. I go by the name mso 463. That was the name of the minesweeper I was on long ago. "Tribes" was brilliant, it's resonating like a bell with me and all the others who read it.
I can fly-cast, juggle and shoot expert with both hands, but the thing I do best is teach others to teach and to lead.
This is the Spark! God Bless You.



imnohero, you answered my question re: "who is keeping us safe now?" by, very rightly, pointing out the good men and women of the armed forces.

I wholeheartedly agree, and I very much appreciate the sacrifices made by those who put themselves in harm's way so we can sleep in peace. My grandfather was one of those, giving his leg in WWII to keep the world free, and my cousin is another, choosing multiple tours of duty in the Middle East. I and all other Americans owe them a debt of gratitude that can never be repaid.

The point I intended to make--and didn't do very well--was that the President is a rather important linchpin in the machinery of the armed forces. If Americans elect a commander-in-chief who places a short-sighted emphasis on preserving American lives rather than preserving the American way of life, and if that C-I-C prematurely recalls troops from battle... well, I worry about the fate of many nations as well as our own.

Meh. Sorry, I did not come here to be a downer. I'm actually quite optimistic about the future (especially the near future, which holds promises of Ejectia-to-be). Meanwhile, I gotta get cracking on typing up my paltry philosophy of scratch cooking as I wait for the code wizards to hammer out the infrastructure.



Hi all, Rich here. Like a lot of people who posted I know a little bit about a lot of things, mostly carpentry, mechanical, building, fabrication type stuff. And I am more than willing to pass my knowledge along.

In perusing the comments a couple of things caught my attention.

First off; many people have said they only had an amateur skill level at something (or words to that effect). Remember this, the root word for amateur is amat, Latin for "he loves". Chances are if it's something you love to do, you will always try to improve yourself at it, and you would love teaching it. Sometimes the best way to understand something better is to teach it to someone.

Secondly; there were a couple of comments made that might not have been intended to be , but came off as, this was all in vain and doomed to fail unless we were all doing it in the name of God.
Not to put anyone down, but morality doesn't have a religion. There are quite a few reasons to do the right thing and to comport ones self in a gracious and civilized manner that have nothing to do with the inside of a church.

As Bill has so aptly stated, the goal is to improve humanity at large through the most practical means available ie. improving ones self. The motivation behind it, whether it's God, Country, Mother Gaia, or sheer selfishness doesn't matter. You will have set an example for others to follow.

The individual is an insignificant speck in the seething mass of humanity. Trying to change the world by yourself is a forlorn hope. On the other hand changing yourself for the better is an accomplishable goal. By improving yourself you can not help but improve the whole. Even though it's just a tiny amount individually, across the whole of humanity it adds up.

We're reaching for the stars and although they're a long way up there they're not beyond our grasp.



I'm Richard Riley, unemployed actor. I have a pool of knowledge acres wide and inches deep. That qualifies me for 2 jobs - game show contestant and radio talk show host.

But I seem to have a talent for drawing good ideas out of people.

We need a couple of things quickly. We need a Wiki, a forum with threaded comment capability, and a space or linking system for people to park their blogs. All these introductions are wonderful, but we have to be able to contact each other more directly than one long thread.

COTS forum packages won't be the final form for Ejectia, but one would be a little step forward.



Hi, my name is Kim, but I go by Pellegri on this side of the blogosphere.

I'm an almost-graduated B.Sc. student of bioengineering, which means practically I know a little bit about everything that so much as abuts on biology, engineering, or both of them. I freely admit to being better at the biology than the engineering; I can reconstruct a reaction network for an organism by hand if you give me the stoichiometric matrix, but will curl up and whimper if I've got to program something that will do that for me.

My minor is philosophy; I know a little about a lot of things in ethics, political science, and a lot about a few things in philosophy of science. My self-stated interest is in bioethics, and I can teach you how to construct (or deconstruct) some pretty nasty arguments on the problems of the day. But I also style myself after Paul Feyerabend, which makes me a scientist more than happen to question why we're still doing things the way they are when it's not working the way they say it should be. ;)

My other-other specialty is library science, which I'm slowly teaching myself by dint of having been employed as a page/shelver/Assistant III for the past three years. I have delusions of doing cataloging and reference work one of these days--AND I can probably tell you based on topic what Library of Congress Call Number a book is likely to have. ;)

Other than that, I draw, write, horde music, roleplay, and get into internet arguments for fun. The biggest dumb thing I did recently was taking apart the justification for a *chan board attack on a pet site I play on and examining it in the light of just war theory. (Conclusion: There is no just war on the internet.)

Other than that, I have serious motivation and staying power issues--I flit from one topic to another with all the attention of a drunk bumblebee, and would appreciate having someone who could regularly punch me in the face and tell me to stay on target. High INT, low WIS will be my downfall.



Hello, I go by Lathspell.

Hmm, software development and test as a career, but to what I enjoy doing is teaching Boy Scout skills to young men.

Trying my best to pass along a little respect for the country, a little character growth and a sense of self worth and achievement to the youth trapped in the education factories that would force them to submit to a negative world view.

If you are disturbed by the vision of the country you see, work to improve the future.



Also, since that post was long on puff and short on substance, Bill--you're an amazing writer, and this reminded me why I've continued to resist a lot of the poisonous impulses that have taken other members of my generation.

I am all for the idea of Ejectia!. What better thing to do with my free time than put into action the principles I so love about the internet?



Hello! This is a wonderful idea Bill!

My name is Matt, I have a degree in physics and astronomy, most o a masters in Christian studies with a focus in Theology, and I am also working on a masters in teaching so I can teach middle schoolers science!

I am also excited to be a board member of a new non-prof that will be starting up soon called Ivy Roads: Northwest Student Mentoring. Their goal, while somewhat local right now, has similar goals I think. They have recognized a lack of moral education in higher education and will be trying to fill that gap by focusing on character development.

I hope this all takes off Bill!



Bill,

Does it ever get boring for you, this nailing it square, every time? Another terrific essay - you again give words to some very lumpy disquiet within me, and alone, I run the gamut from rage to hopelessness. But in community? The game changes.

I'm in.

I'm skeeter, at least for now, and I'm the elephant's child - so the offering here to learn and to teach - to prepare, strikes such a chord in me, I cannot tell you.

As I've said on a previous post, I can teach skeet or swimming, budgets and books. I am a generalist, a synthesist. I am not sure how I can contribute, but am willing to hop in as the opportunity arises.

Can't wait to see where this goes!



Hi, I'm Peg. I'm all alone working the night shift at home (I'm in IT). Busy and LONELY. Bill, I love all your essays. This in particular is inspiring and speaks to me. For years now I have despaired at the cluelessness and apathy in my fellow humans. It is so good to be in good company.

I do a mean Disaster Recovery and I can sell anything to anyone. I'm not sure those are useful or even desirable skills. ;-)

I participate on a number of blogs, particularly ones that appeal to the robust, freedom-loving nature of the Remnant culture. Love the name! Perfect.
Was very struck by the Greek virtues and I have pasted them on my monitor. Much food for thought in the essay. THANKS!!



I have been lurking from the beginning and have not posted until now. Thank you for your essays and all of your work. It is appreciated and respected more than you can imagine. I like the idea of ejectia but I am, of course, skeptical.

I have been a hobbyist in user generated content from their beginning as MUDs and have followed it to the current iterations like Secondlife and Wiki's. I manage my own training/tutorial MUD that teaches others how to create their own Worlds (text based version of secondlife). I am a project manager at heart and have seen numerous startups (ideas like this) fail due to a lack of management. The task of focusing such an idea into something useable is.. herculean. Managing such a project isn't a hobby or a second job. It is a career choice. Before I would be willing to invest my time I want to be sure there is management in place to make this work. What is your business plan? How much time do you and others have to invest? I know you are overwhelmed right now... could you handle that for years?

I have spent years of my free time on my own project (tbaMUD) with very little reward. In fact, this "hobby" has often taken priority over my career. Such projects require sacrifice and I'm not sure I would wish the amount of sacrifice I have paid for my project onto anyone else.

Enough rambling, I have many more thoughts on the topic if anyone is interested. And I also just happen to be a pilot... going by my SL name.



Out of respect for Mr. Riley, who was here WAY before me, I am changing my Posted By name to RRRRBAR [faint applause]. It's a cross between my name and what Robin Williams used to say on Mork & Mindy.

I'm 50, a guitar player with two kids and a beautiful wife. My brother and I have a printing company. I call Kentucky home.

Mr. Whittle, thank you for bringing these ideas into the world in this way. You have made all our lights shine a little brighter.



Hi Bill! I'm an at home mom, homeschooler, sometime writer (my favorite post linked to my name) amateur photographer, genealogist, history buff. I firmly believe that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it - and that the hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world! Doing my best to teach and inspire my daughters to be able to carry on a thoughtful legacy.

Love your essays and have enjoyed sharing them with anyone that will be wise enough to read them - unfortunately outside my family, there are very few that seem to care enough to be willing to read and learn anything - but it is to those that I gravitate - and I'll be interested to see how Ejectia comes along!



Bill - You may not be as alone as you think in your thinking. There are many who share the sentiments and their origins may surprise you. I recommend an author, Orson Scott Card of "Ender's Game" renown. He has a collection of short stories I loved that immediately resonated in time with your essay. It is called "The Folk of the Fringe" This the description of the book from Amazon.

"Only a few nuclear weapons fell in America-the weapons that destroyed our nation were biological and, ultimately, cultural. But in the chaos, the famine, the plague, there exited a few pockets of order. The strongest of them was the state of Deseret, formed from the vestiges of Utah, Colorado, and Idaho. The climate has changed. The Great Salt Lake has filled up to prehistoric levels. But there, on the fringes, brave, hardworking pioneers are making the desert bloom again.

A civilization cannot be reclaimed by powerful organizations, or even by great men alone. It must be renewed by individual men and women, one by one, working together to make a community, a nation, a new America."

I am as my handle says. A Project Management consultant in the semiconductor industry. Trained in Mathematics, Physics, Electrical Engineering, systems integration. I can teach/tutor all of the above.



Lurked here for a year or so. I find you give me views of issues I otherwise would otherwise lack.

Interesting concept you have here.

I spot patterns for a living (I'm an intelligence analyst), and I can grow that skill in some people. I also develop small, unique capabilities inside organisations.

Military reserve these days, also an historian. Like many here, I am a shooter as well. That may be the closest thing to a commonality, here; aside from a certain old fashioned cussedness.

MarkL
Australia



My name is James and I have a knack for getting out of dodgy situations before the point of no return (and sensing where that point is).

I also soak up facts and factoids like a sponge...But that's about it.



Hi Bill. Wow! Great essay! I usd to think that there were no remnants, other than myself. yes, I know, sounds kind of arrogant. But many times many of us FEEL alone against a weary world. Then a bit over a year ago myelf and a few others stopped and helped pull a man from a smoldering car wreck. Knowing it might explode, this group risked their own safety to help this guy out, while hundreds just drove past a bit slower to see if they could spot a dead body.
I talk about the above incident on my own website. In the "SpongeOsophy" section, read the essay called "Heros."
I am a professional bowler by trade, but will probably never make a dime at it. I am legally disabled from Crohns disease and other ailments. I decided long ago to use my bowling game to motivate other disabled people to chase their dreams, to not give up on life.
Four eyars ago the woman I was married to went into a coma. That is when i first noticed that people were motivated by my positive attitude, facing her health and my own. When after 7 years of work I qualified for the PBA tour, I decided to use this, all of it, to show people the one thing I am good at and hopefully show them to stay positive. When someone asks me for an autograph, I hand them a package with a red clown nose inside. Many words are on the package, but the best are this: "Bad times are inevitable, misery is optional." For three years now on my limited income I have put my time and love into my website, my writings, to TEACH people how to FIGHT MISERY.
I get paid nothing for this, and I never expect to. I do this because I have a gift I feel compelled to share, that positivity.
My new wife-to-be has the same disease as I. We are both trying to change the world, one red nose at a time.

Be well,

Sponge



I am inspired! I shall read all the posts and then comment more.



Hello Bill. I'm in. Very thought provoking post.

I'm 50, English and a lawyer by education but a salesman in fact. Interests include history, literature and philosophy.

I would suggest you and your readers take a look at the Euston Manifesto, and sign it. It is a slap in the face to all those who think it wrong for Western Civilization to defend itself.



So I am not alone, but it's still a pretty creepy place.

I am a Rantburg regular, and when I saw Sgt. Mom's (who also posts at Rantburg) comment (from 4:50 pm yesterday) it made me think of the end of the movie (and book) Fahrenheit 451, where everyone is walking around memorizing a book - becoming living books - and that is each individual's contribution.

I am a civil engineer doing quality management, and not sure how I can contribute, but I'd love to watch and chip in helpful comments when I can.



So I am not alone, but it's still a pretty creepy place.

I am a Rantburg regular, and when I saw Sgt. Mom's (who also posts at Rantburg) comment (from 4:50 pm yesterday) it made me think of the end of the movie (and book) Fahrenheit 451, where everyone is walking around memorizing a book - becoming living books - and that is each individual's contribution.

I am a civil engineer doing quality management, and not sure how I can contribute, but I'd love to watch and chip in helpful comments when I can.



I'm in.

Skills:

One of my dad's uncles taught me how to paint houses.

I can bake and cook.

I've studied martial arts for 12 years.

I'm currently studying for my dive master certification.

I'm trained in basic first aid and adult/child/infant cpr.

I can shoot, and I'm pretty accurate with my hand guns out to 25 feet.



The second part of this essay summarizes what Talleyrand once told the French Legislature back in 1831. He said: "I know someone who is smarter than Newton, more clever than Voltaire, more energetic than Napoleon. That person is.... everybody." What he was saying is that everyone (collectively) is smarter than ANYONE. This is the basis of the successful running of a Republic.

This was a great essay. I'm going to print it and have my teen-age daughters read it. It explains the one mystery in life that goes unquestioned by most people: Why should you do the right thing? Why be good? Why obey the law? What's the point? Isn't it better to just cheat to get ahead? Talleyrand says no, and Whittle says no.



I used to be a physicist, am now a statistician, and will be a full-time homesteader, vintner, and homeschooler. I'm very interested to see how ejectia develops.



I used to be a physicist, am now a statistician, and will be a full-time homesteader, vintner, and homeschooler. I'm very interested to see how ejectia develops.



D4/Stan

LOL. Funny how a little scotch and a dandy new essay by Bill can do for an 8:15 ramble ;-) Well, it was 10:15 here. He gets you all fired up and suddenly you want to help everybody do everything. I really have done all those things though. Jack of all trades, master of none. Or very little, anyway. The key is the attitude "I can".

As my dad used to say all the time, "can't never could do nothin'". He was right on that one.

The important thing is that there are a lot of problems I've been willing to tackle, and that willingness gets you way farther than sitting on the couch eating chips. Not that that's a bad thing from time to time, either ;-)

So, what do you want to know? I'll give it my best shot.



Hej all!
I'm in. The Pirate King and Captain Midnight are my sister and brother in law, respectively (see toward the top of the postings), and are the reason that I have found this fine corner of the Internet. As to the two kicker questions:
1.) What am I good at? Sewing, leather crafting (I can make just about anything within reason of leather), pottery (from digging clay out of the ground to completely finished vessels and items, including the construction of kilns and other assorted tools needed),sculpture, metal casting (non technical), conservation of resources in a practical and realistic manner, first hand recycling, re-use and remanufacture of glass, Interior design, bookbinding... 2.) Can I teach it? I have always felt that a skill or ability that one cannot teach was in some fashion wasted. Any or all of these I am willing and eager to share.

I look forward to the further growth of this community.



Bill, the first thing I thought of when reading about the positions of nice, retaliation, followed immediately by a return to nice (forgiving) - was that that accurately described what had traditionally been U.S. foreign policy; a foreign policy that worked and brought us respect in the world. Since we have strayed from that paradigm it has brought us nothing but misery and contempt - contempt for ourselves and from friend and foe alike. The qualities that stood this country in such good stead for so long can also be applied to the individual and it is clear that there, with the individual, is where we must begin again.



Hello all! My education is in physics and electrical engineering but today I work in computer software. My hobbies include race car fabrication, racing (doing, not watching), DIY car repair, and bicycling. I'm willing and able to share information about all of those.



Spectacular. Because it is one of the most valuable commodities to the Remnant, I confer upon you my genuine 'Thank You'.

May I suggest a passive aggressive tactic for the traffic situation you descibed? I live in Albuquerque which is spanish for "Many Orange Barrels." Our freeways are always under construction and the lane closures create many cheaters. I handle that by moving into the cheating lane and then keeping pace with the non-cheating lane. As soon as all the cheaters up ahead are let in then traffic starts to flow again. Almost invariably the non-cheaters see what I'm doing and let me back in when the lane really goes away. The cheaters behind me figure out that there is no winning by staying in my lane and move over into the non-cheating lane sooner. Just call me an "Active Passive Aggressive."

I'm sure there are many more clever than I about such dilemmas. Let's hear them.




The traffic "cutting in line" example definitely resonates with me as well. It's one of my pet peeves on the road.



What a great post! It would be an honor to play a small part in such a "Whittle World".

While my skills are limited (I am a licensed flooring contractor), let me know if I can contribute to any cause that promotes the idea that we are not alone.



Hey Bill. I've been reading your essays for quite a while now and it just gets better and better. I've been so disgusted with what's happening to our wonderful country that I have to block it from my mind to keep from being sick to my stomach. What you and all these amazing people are doing is really, really cool. I'm a Vietnam Vet, and CPA. I don't know how much I can help all of you geniuses but I sure know you can help me just by being here. Thanks.



My name is Duncan. I am a military instructor pilot, so flying is my main skill. I also am a history buff, got a bachelors degree and working towards a masters. I am about to transfer into a federal law enforcement career, so soon I'll add that as a list of my skills.

Bill, brilliant as always. I hope that what you say is true. There is so much good with this experiment that our founders created. I hope that we can save it before it becomes washed up and tossed in the waste bin of history...



First. WOW! I'm definitely in. Played in the "Second Life" thing and found it wanting. Ejectia is real. Or will be. I offer my services as a gun guy with the caveat that most of my opinions are based on access to a fairly large library of like material and some few years of gunsmithing. The shingle is hung, the store is stocked. All opinions and advice are free.
BILL FOR PRESIDENT!!!! Just to get the ball rolling.



I've been looking for something like this for a long time. I teach music but I'm good at explaining anything that I understand. I'm very good at organizing information and cataloging it (archivist?) I read quickly and I really enjoy evaluating books for others. If there's anything in that realm that's needed, call on me.



I wonder if this is how Dagney Taggart felt when she crashed her airplane?

I can make my own clothes, furniture, and I can and preserve almost everything we eat. I know how to process hogs and venison. I'm not a survivalist, but I have always needed to know that I could take care of myself if SOMETHING BAD happened.



Pierre - Thinking of the post by Philmon about pulling someone from a smoldering car wreck, and that you apparently have your Heinlein to hand, Do you have something that has his story about the woman caught in the train tracks while her husband and the hobo try to save her? That was the story I thought of when I was reading Bil's post last night, and I wanted to put it up here, but can't find a book with it.



So there are a couple of Rantburg readers here, huh? I'm a longtime lurker, only an occasional poster these days (I go by "The Doctor" when I bother to say anything at all). Fred does a wonderful job over there.

I've been reading Eject!X3 on and off for the last year or two, and recently I plowed through the entire archive. Beautiful, inspiring stuff, Mr. Whittle. I recommend this site to everyone I can, and it frustrates me when they don't come back and say "I read everything!" Ah, well.

The concept of honor resonates with me. I don't always manage to behave honorably, and in fact when stressed and annoyed I more often than not end up channeling Cartman, but the ideas and virtues professed by Western codes of honor have interested me more and more the last few years. I thought I had independently stumbled upon the notion that the idea of honor was missing in our society, although I can see that I'm not alone in the conclusion. So I try and act with it whenever possible, although when I'm stressed, running short on time, and not feeling as though I'm at my best (which more or less describes how I've felt since the beginning of the year . . .) I tend to fall a bit short of my mark.

(Of course, it doesn't help that, as I run a Department of Health switchboard, I get calls from crazy people, people demanding their "rights" to government programs, and people who just plain don't listen, and so I have to explain the same things over and over and over . . .)

I wouldn't mind participating, although I don't know quite yet what I can contribute aside from the occasional smartass remark. I'm a young guy with a talent for writing, I'd like to go back to school and finish an English degree and do some sort of journalism work (and yes, I know how hard that will be for someone of my conservative persuasion!) in addition to writing and publishing a series of sci-fi novels. I've done a good deal of background reading on Islam (and with every tome I become more convinced of its dangers), and I have a smattering of knowledge on other subjects. But the idea that I could learn a lot from other experts, that with enough study I could be prepared for almost anything, that I would have the courage to stand up for people I don't even know and be willing to throw myself into the fray with a reasonable hope of coming back out alive . . . Bill Whittle, you had me hooked from the first word. Characters like James Kirk, MacGyver, and the Doctor (of "Doctor Who" fame, naturally) attract me for precisely that reason. They know things, they are prepared, and they go in there. I have no idea whether I could, but I want to.

Now, I don't know whether I'm just making stuff up here or not, but one thing has jumped out at me as I've browsed books on Arab culture and Islam ("The Closed Circle" and "The Arab Mind" are quite excellent, incidentally). I don't pretend to know much about Eastern ideas of honor, but the Arab concept is deeply intertwined with the idea of "face." You are honorable, or you are shamed. A shameful act, as one would expect in a tribal society such as the Arabs', reflects upon the whole clan/tribe/group, and it is shameful because of how it negatively influences the opinions of others. It is a very public honor code. But as long as no one knows - or no one would believe it if they heard - then, well, what's stopping you?

I haven't read much on this recently, and I'm writing this at work with plenty of interruptions, so I may be getting some details wrong. But in contrast to that very public Arab code, it has always struck me that Western concepts of honor, while paying deference to the concept of face, focus more on the internal. Act honorably, honestly, and well, not because of what people may think of you, but because it's the right thing to do. Because it makes you a better person. It is an internal thing, as opposed to an external one (I'm reminded of the old line about character being what you do when other people aren't around).

Food for thought, anyway . . .



Oh, yeah, regarding the Wiki knowledge base: I don't think we should leave it open to editing in the fashion that Wikipedia is. The Wiki software allows for the possibility of making people login so they can post or edit. I would suggest allowing people to post their own articles, but keep it so that they would be the ultimate source of all edits that they make.

This doesn't mean that no one should make changes suggested by other people, but that the changes should go through the person who created the article. That way, for example, we would avoid "cookie recipe wars" (as a silly example), where someone posts an article, someone else thinks it's wrong, changes it, then maybe even someone else changes it again (no coconut, damnit!), then the first person puts it back, and the whole thing goes around in circles.

It won't hurt if we have multiple entries for the same thing. Many things can benefit from having multiple viewpoints represented.

Now, one thing I plan on doing if and when I create an article, is to take someone like silvermine up on their offer to ghost write a more readable format.



I already recieved an IM from another member of Secondlife so I decided to start a group there to gauge the interest and bounce some ideas around. Just search for the group "ejectia" if you are interested. I will setup a group meeting for... Friday evening.



Count me in. Graphic artist, Flash and HTML programmer.



I'm the Mother of five 'remnants'. Not an easy thing to teach to children growing up in So Cal. One of my boys was a Marine. He died two years ago in an auto accident on his way to his third deployment to Iraq. I can teach parents how to cope with the death of a child. I am also very good at finding information on the web. I handed out your essay 'Tribes' to strangers as well as everyone I know. I will do the same with this one.
I was just about ready to give up when I read this. Thank you.



Sign me up. Trumpet player, law student



I think it's marvelous what you are trying to do. It is wonderful to see so many people who are heartsick at the corruption of Western society and who want to somehow make it better.

However, Bill, a return to morals, virtues and ethics will not deal with humankind's real problem: a fallen nature ruled by sin. None of us can get away from our sin nature and our propensity to sin (which is, to commit evil acts against God, against our fellow man, and against ourselves). God's Word clearly states:

"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23).

Sin is what has led us to this horrible state of things that we see, not only in Western society, but in the whole world. Sin is what clearly screams out at us as we look back at the bloody history of mankind. And saddest of all, sin separates us from a holy God who loves us dearly.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:23).

God paid for our sin by allowing his innocent Son, Jesus Christ, who knew no sin at all, to take our sins upon Himself at the cross. It is in accepting His sacrifice and allowing Him to change us, that our sins are forgiven and we are innocent in God's eyes.

"And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again" (2 Corinthians 5:15)

"That if you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, 'Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame'" (Romans 10:9)

Jesus is the ONLY ONE who gives men and women the power to change themselves for the better. Our great leaders of the past knew this - it is faith in Christ that created a society where goodness triumphed over evil. The virtues you speak of came directly from God's Word - they were NOT of human invention. Purity, courage, honesty, character -it was God Himself who put the desire for these into our hearts in order to lead us to Him, because we cannot attain those things without His help. As Jesus stated so eloquently:

"Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me'" (John 14:6).

And He says now:

"Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me" (Revelation 3:20).

I apologize for making such a long post. I was truly impressed by your incredible post, and wanted to contribute to the discussion. My intention is not to make waves or to be offensive in any way whatsoever.

In closing, I just want to add that your blog is one of my favourites - I wish you would post more for those of us who can't get enough of your writing!

God bless,

Erin



After reading the first part of this post (and mainly the part about the Remnant) there was a sentence that came to my mind. I'm sure some of you are familiar with it.

"There was once a dream that was Rome. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper, and it would vanish - it was that fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter.". - Emperor Marcus Aurelius Caesar, in Gladiator.

When we think about the countries that have represented (or represent) the ultimate dream of humanity, we think of Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome and the United States. All of them have a philosophy behind that, saving contextual and historical differences, is extremely similar in its foundations. The three nations rised from the dust and ashes of unhabited lands or fallen ancient empires, and found its way to stardom. Two of the three fell some time in the past, both of them for the same reasons, which Bill has detailed enough. Now the third country looks strongly on its last days, and rightly too, because it is. Many people think it will fall.

But not me. I think that, at most, the country itself might fall, but not its flame, for we have a one-way ticket to Destiny.

I agree with Bill in this analysis, but I can give kind of a reason as to why I'm optimistic.

If you watch a historic cronology of all the great countries and empires through history, you can imagine it as a kind of civilizational rollercoaster: One nation rises from the base, goes up, reaches a maximum, and falls.

In the ancient past, civilizations rised from the very ground (because there was no significant background behind them from where to start), piked and, when they fell, they fell almost to the same point from where they had started.

Later nations (basically since Greece and Rome) began not from the ground but with some base, piked and, when they fell, they did so not dropping to the floor but, instead, leaving some rests behind, that the next nations would use as a base for their own growth. This doesn't mean the fall wasn't dramatic (the fall of Rome certainly was), but the fallen Rome didn't descend to the quasi-tribalism from where it had begun.

As history goes, we can see a pattern, as in general nations begin higher, pike higher, and end higher too, than those who preceded them. And all of this happens faster.

Nowadays, nations can rise to power and fall in a matter of several years. With the exception of those territories which are underdeveloped (in which civilization is still "low"), huge wars can devastate entire continents, just to see them get up and participate in the economy again a few years later. Every time the maximum-minimum civilizational gap is becoming smaller and smaller.

Authors as Ray Kurzweil proclaim that almost every aspect of life is improving exponentially as civilization progresses, so in a few years from now (say, 15) we will have seen the same progress that took place in the whole 20th Century. This correlates with the phenomena we were discussing now. As time (and science, and wealth) goes, life quality increases exponentially, as does growth, as does evolution of nations, as does the system adaptation to desestabiltating/civilization-fall factors.

If we get to survive a bit longer, we might not get to fall at all. Or, at worst, the falling gap might be so small, we can "recycle" the system without too much losses. With hope and some work, we can manage to never see again the Dark Ages.

I hope this was not too dense - I'm very bad at writing...

BTW, I'm Sir Sefirot, 22, from Spain. I'm (almost) physicist, I know some things about music, history, military history, warfare, NBC warfare, and stuff. I'll happily talk about anything, and I'll learn anything that you want to teach me.

By all means, count me in.



Bill, I think this is your best work to date. You are truly inspired, and truly inspire.

I don't know what I think of the leap to Ejectia here in part two, but the strength of your argument in Part 1 makes me willing to give it a chance.

My name is Jeff but online I blog as Dadmanly. I'm glad to see some friends of MILBLOGS here already. I am a certified Project Manager (IT, systems, network, app development type), I've taught for the Army, my employer, and even teach a "Train the Trainer" in instructional skills. My wife and I teach marriage classes, and I teach at my church. I have a degree in Theater and have taught acting and could teach directing. Not very practical for a virtual community I suppose. I think we teach with what we write as we share our experiences. But it's a different kind of knowledge, rather than a skill or trade.

Keep up the excellent work, Bill.



My thing is math (all kinds). Because I am a teacher, I am expected to know everything, so I know a lot in a great many areas.
What this site needs QUICK is some sort of index or cross-reference. How do you find among the posters here someone who can talk to you about subject X?
I think of the webbing that I teach kids to do in sorting out Geometry, for instance. You know: a circle, with different paths leading off in different directions?
WE NEED THIS PLACE.
We drown in sound bites. We need to have a place where issues can be considered, pondered, debated, and studied. We need views from all sides about what the consequences will be.
Look at what happened to Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). There was a program which was intended to do good, but had the unintended consequence of contributing to the breakup of families. That is what I mean by looking first.

Anyway, thanks Bill!



However, Bill, a return to morals, virtues and ethics will not deal with humankind's real problem: a fallen nature ruled by sin. None of us can get away from our sin nature and our propensity to sin (which is, to commit evil acts against God, against our fellow man, and against ourselves).

That's as may be, but Christ was the only one not tainted by the fall. It was because of that that he was able to take the punishment for our sins.

His sacrifice may save our souls, but that act by itself does not make us sinless; it merely means that by repenting and accepting his actions on our behalf we do not have to pay an eternal price. We have been saved, but that does not give us the right to do whatever we want. So along with Christ's moral teachings, traditional concepts of honor, virtue, ethics, and morality are the best guides we have on how to live a decent life which balances one's self-interests with respect for others and contributions to society.



This great "IDEA" can be started right now! I've been a Second Life resident for about a year....We (Remnants) can get launched in SL.....building, communicating, security, freedom...We don't have to reinvent that part of the "IDEA"



Hi, if I can steal a line from Brenda, I'm the mother of two "remnants" and the wife of a very good man. And its good to know that there are others out there who believe that fighting against the tide is the right thing to do even when you are tempted to despair. I have a degree in Electrical Engineering although for the last ten years I have worked as a technical writer. So I'm good at conveying complicated technical information in a straightforward manner. I'm an expert in Framemaker, Adobe Acrobat and Photoshop, do pretty well with PCs and spend way too much on home theater equipment. I also did the structured wiring for data, video and phone for our new home. I am willing to share any of that knowledge in any way that it will be useful. And I've read WAY too much science fiction and fantasy over the years. I would be curious to see how many fans of Robert Heinlein there are here. It was in his writings' that I first remember encountering what Bill is talking about now. Thanks Bill for showing that one person can make a difference.



Hi Bill (and everyone else)

My name is Tom. I only trap existential ducks. Like Neal Stephenson's idea of the word as a virus, this stuff you talk about (and VDH and Mark Steyn et al) has snuck into my software and won't let go. I'm hoping to retire in a couple of years and make music without (as much)distraction. Maybe start a band called The Remnants. Ha ha. I'd like to teach you how to play guitar and in turn to learn how to avoid unripe melons.

cheers
tom



Hi all. I have been lurking for a while now. I am an American widow living with my sons (ages 18 and 16) in Ireland. I am a speech and language pathologist working with children and teens who have autism. I think of myself as a communication specialist (both verbal and non-verbal) since my previous careers were in the performing arts and in video production. I suppose I could help folks who are worried about their kids' speech, language, and social skills. Glad to know there are like-minded others out there.



I'm in.

My name is Tom. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm good at. I love being a father - not sure if I'm good at it but I'm trying. I also love history and discussing it. Maybe I could get an advanced degree and teach it.

I have two pieces of advice in the realm of emergency preparedness. 1) keep a couple of 2.5 gallon containers of water in yoru basement ready to be loaded into your car. You can't live without water. 2) keep two 2.5 gallon cans of gasoline in your garage, treated with Sta-bil. Cycle it every six months. If you need to evacuate in a big hurry, chances are lots of other people will be doing the same. A lot of them will look at the gas gauges of their cars and realize they need to stop for gas. The lines will be long and the station tanks will go dry fast. You'll be screwed.



Hi. I don't comment on blogs much, but I felt the need to say that I want in. I can teach a few things, but mostly I want to learn.



To those of you above that are librarians -

I bow down to you, I am not worthy.

Librarians are absolutly vital to this venture. If this works we're going to be generating and gathering great galloping heaps of data. We need to be able to find it once we have it. Organizing it is the sticking point.



Greetings, one and all!

Bill, as usual, you have written a thorough, thought provoking, explanatory piece that coalesced everything that was free floating in my mind. I'm going to have to quote extensively from this piece for a while, if you don't mind.

As for my skills, all teachable (but not always over the 'net):
Driving - anything with a motor, and a lot of things without, land or water based.

Carpentry - from rough framing to finish, and from cribbing to cabinetry.

General Construction - Jack of All Trades, never got my General's license 'cause it took time away from DOING.

Raising/Training dogs - not purebreds, because they are snooty, but good ol' mutts.

Kitchen Design - goes with the cabinetry skills listed above.

Computer skills - if I have them, I can convey them to you. Mostly, the end-user stuff, on word processing, spreadsheets, and data base management.

Military skills - served in the Corps, with a grunt battalion, as a radio operator. Sometimes, skills cannot be enumerated, but only implied.

I have become so fed up with the complacency of the Career Politicians in all areas - law enforcement, border control, self-serving wallet-filling interests, that I have started a campaign to be written in as President. Bill, will you be my Vice President candidate?



Count me in.

Worked in systems software and hardware design. Now have a small piece of land and trying to become self-sufficient.

For years I have been bothered by people cheating and stealing, however trivial.



Hi,

I'm not sure what I am really good at, although I find I can apply myself in a lot of different areas and I can learn to do something when I put my mind to it. I have some skill with writing, and with strategy, and I think I read people and situations pretty well.

I do know that things are not right; that they are quite frankly spinning out of control. The obviously common sense thing has become alien to too many people, and their obstinance is frightening. The prospect of trying to counter-act so much ignorance seems a truly Herculean task, and yes, it is depressing to feel one is alone, or among a few who see it.

The essays were excellent, if not a bit chilling. What you speak of is trying to forestall a new dark age, and barring that, becoming custodians of the old wisdom until such time as the world is ready to receive it.

I hear the call, and I answer.

Well done.



YO!
I want IN at Ejectia.
I can teach a few things, I think:
1. I'm not Fermat, but I can teach any of you out there who are afraid of Algebra and Calculus the fundamental principles of it in such a manner that you're GUARANTEED to grasp it. I've felt for a very long time that advanced mathematics is NOT beyond the average Joe; it's mostly that there's lots of bad teachers out there.
2. I can provide tips on public speaking. I'm better than a lot of folks who think they're awesome at it, though I think that I myself am not any kind of Cicero.
3. I have a vast random collection of knowledge, with a focus on ancient history. I like reading. :-)
I'll think of other stuff as we go along.
So how do we start, BW? Is there somewhere where like - minded folks can congregate, lay the foundation for a particular 'school', and start building it?
Maybe this open field where the city is supposed to be can be divided into grids, or alphabetically by subject.
Wow, it' already mushrooming in my head - crosslinking, isolating contributions on identical topics so that they don't confuse/contaminate each other (thus avoiding the error that Wikipedia made), etc etc...



Hi, I'm Ray. I'm a asst. public defender in a small Tennessee town. I'm an outdoorsman when I'm not in court. I was struck by BW's latest essay when I compared and contrasted with the one involving the sheepdogs. The idea of the Remnant fits nicely. I, too, know a little about a lot but I'll help where I can. Great idea, I'm anxious to see what happens.



A wonderful essay, Bill!

I'm a little skeptical about whether Ejectia can take off or not -- my gut tells me that the quality problem, of separating the wheat from the chaff, will be crucial. (Broad hint: there must be a ruler. There's a world of difference between an organization with a ruler, who can impose order and crack heads as necessary, and one in which all are equal. With a central authority, you have the United States; without one, you have the United Nations.)

But as you've indicated in this essay, sometimes it doesn't matter if you think an effort is doomed to failure; it's important to do your very best at it anyway. So please count me in.

My name is Daniel, and I live in Brookline, MA. I can shoot reasonably straight. I can read music, write music, and sing well. I'm nobody's gift to construction, but I can drill and hammer and replace a faucet. I can teach elementary skills in lots of things -- math, science, music, literacy. I only speak two languages, but I'm working on that.

Whether I'm part of the Remnant or not remains to be seen, as it is with all of us. You never know how you'll respond when the crisis hits, until it actually does. But I'll be waiting, and I'll do my best to be ready.

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline



I couldn't even read all the comments of people volunteering to share. It's amazing.

Me, I'm mostly a housewife trying to become a mother. I have secretarial skills, including organizing spreadsheets, creating newsletters, and all the rest of that paperwork that gets taken for granted.

I am also a member of the Boy Scouts of America and a lifetime member of the Girl Scouts of the USA. I can do all kinds of camping, from Leave no Trace backpacking to Jamboree-style kitchen-sink bonanzas. I know a little about building trail and doing other things to preserve wilderness in the face of massive use.

And I also know about living with depression and with others who are depressed or bipolar.

I want to be useful! And I want company along the way.



Forgive me, but one more comment:
- for all of you who say you know martial arts but don't think it can be taught over the 'interwebs', I suspect that you can still teach a lot. Try it anyway. For instance: what's really going thru your mind, and how do you feel head to toe, when you're trying to launch that punch, or kick, or execute that particular throw? There's a lot to be learned there.
- something else: I can teach a little Italian.
- Oh, another thing: I can teach a little about The Game, but a vastly deeper and more honorable level than the average ridiculous PUA.
- last comment: there's lots I DON'T know. Looking forward to participating in this ethereal city/university. :-)



Nice Whittlin', Bill!

pleeztameecha, all.

greybeard who'll soon be 58. Rose from humble beginnings to become well known in my narrow and limited field (Inventory Managememt/Materials Management) .. currently in a data management/consultant position having responsibility for moving more than 32 catalogues distributed around the world, to a single instance.
I've been trying to find the time for years to document how different MRO is from MRP (common ERP terms)... and this may be an opportunity to find others to join in the discussion on that topic.
I've seemed to be quite successful in teaching inventory management, warehousing, and similar subjects to my group, as well as teaching business writing and documentation, and leading courses, to adults.
I'm a green card holder (so this immigration disaster is near and dear to my heart) since my boss decided I'd manage my group better from Michigan than the backwoods of Alberta, Canada. This is the furthest south I've ever lived, having spent many years in the Canadian arctic and in the northern woods of Alberta.
I'm definitely a generalist - I can build a house, wire it, plumb it, and I'm just about finished re-roofing my current one. Raise horses (miniatures, for fun) and truly love to get away and do many thousands of miles on a touring motorcycle. Manage multiple websites (my contribution to the groups I've joined) outside as well as at work.
I came to Ejectopia, oops, Ejectia! via Ayn Rand and Heinlein, as well as from becoming more and more dismayed at the political atmosphere circa 2007.
Like many other here, I seem to be good at explaining things via analogy and example. Also like most, I believe in accountability, and archaic (but not to me) concepts like duty, honor and trust. Did my stint in the RCAF as a medic but left since the Canadian government saved money by treating federal penitentary inmates health problems at military hospitals. I didn't sign up, or see any value, in caring for guys (or gals) who wanted tattoos removed because their cell had a new bunkmate.

I'll be happy to participate in any way I can ... I've always said that only be sharing our knowledge can we ensure that we continue to exist.

yet another Pete



Introduction:
Hi Everyone, my name is Monty, I've been working in technology for over 16 years, through many industries, currently in Healthcare. I can contribute help in computer networking, phone systems, golf skills and generally being an over zealous smart ass (though that might not be too valuable). I have grown incredibly in the last few years as far as critical thinking and maturity and want others to experience the same to understand their world better...

And btw Bill... congrats again on such wonderful, coherent dissection of the world... you're an inspiration to those of us who keep blogs, and I hope I can help contribute.

Monty



YO, DANIEL IN BROOKLINE:
Leaders will emerge. I can guarantee it.

BILL WHITTLE:
Wikipedia is not necessarily a perfect model to copy. It's pretty easy to find pages that have been heavily politicized, so ideology is communicated rather than real knowledge. There must be a better way than Wikipedia has adopted to keep contributions from being overpowered, diluted or thwarted by those with bad intentions.



Hi, I'm Brennan.

I'm an aspiring polymath who can explain the fundamentals of algebra, calculus, physics and chemistry to anyone willing to learn. I'm another who knows a little bit about many things and a great deal about nothing.

I know a lot of history and am very familiar with the ins and outs of US student visas, being an international student, and the legal paths to immigrate to the US.

Love the site.



Im Phat Tony (stupid Army nickname) and Ive been thinking about what I could contribute to ejectia, or more specifically what I had to offer to an online community. Im former military, 11-B in a LRS team, and now am currently working for a private company in safety and security. Since pushing paperwork and having to explain OSHA regulations is about as exciting as watching paint dry, I doubt there would be a lot of questions thrown my way. Im willing to offer what meager talents I have though. So I guess, count me in.



Trackbacked by The Thunder Run - Web Reconnaissance for 05/22/2007
A short recon of whats out there that might draw your attention.



daddyquatro, WayneB, AlexaKim, Skyechild, Chase, Charles, Otto, LabRat, Mark Paules, Unquiet, Paul A., Monster, DougMan...

The influx is as impressive as it is heartening - but I would not like us to lose one another in the rush.

muscledaddy_2ATyahooDOTcom.

- MuscleDaddy



I'm deaddybear, from Central California...

I know insurance and risk management (I specialize in 501(c)(3) nonprofits here in Cali). Even earned a B.S. in Insurance - an entirely appropriate designation!

Also an ordained Minister - that Isaiah stuff was right down my alley!

Own and operate a retail paintball/airsoft shop and organize skirmishes and tactical training events with airsoft.




Hello all.
I'm Steve Ronin. I don't think I've ever posted HERE, but I tend to post on subjects dear to my heart: GUNS and BattleTech (RPG-boardgame).
Skills: varied. I've got experience in law enforcement (7 years), experience as medical technology (3 years), experience in Computer Networks and Desktop support (3 years +).
I'm a CubMaster, so I guess I can teach/lead or just be head cook and bottlewasher.
What I have, I yield to the community skill pool.
I'm also a Life NRA Member.



muscledaddy, ACK and thanks. I haven't directly replied to all your postings but I find much in common and little to argue, and I do highly value an anchor point with individuals like yourself. There's nothing that special about me beyond being among the lucky ones reading Bill since the early days. I will say that among the most resonant attitude I've bumped into here is Alexa Kim's meerkat, fidgeting a bit and keenly on watch. For now I'll set up vatchamacallit AT hotmail DOT com.



Here's a quick question - I'm wondering about the possibility of a correlation...

SCA?

Anyone?

- MuscleDaddy



Hi,

My name is Donna. I'm a service trainer. I teach people how to fix Apple Computers. I do web development and database development (very badly/but I try). I love when the light goes on in people's eyes. When they have an "ah-ha" moment. My forte is problem solving and troubleshooting in a logical and systematic way.
Bill, I read your essay with tears running down my face. Thank you.



Hello, everyone. Quite a crowd here, but I expected that. I've been reading your stuff, Bill, for a year or two. I think Tribes is what made me a fan.

I must admit that I've skipped all the comments for now, because this is exciting and I wanted to chime in. I will definitely read each word everyone here has posted.

In the meantime, I'd like to introduce myself. I'm a former game designer (tabletop roleplaying games) and currently a programmer, system administrator and teacher at NASA. I know how to do a lot of things, from carpentry and electrical to building and hosting websites. I am an competent teacher and writer, and I'm willing to help build Ejectia, because it sounds both useful AND fun.

I only have one question, though, and perhaps it's a minor thing - you be the judge. How are we going to keep the people out who would break the windows? You know they exist in the hyperspace realm as well...



This concept has aspects that have not been touched in the posts I've read here. The basic concept is clean and necessary for our culture to continue, but any and all paths to group enlightenment are beset by the twin ghouls of orthodoxy and bureaucracy.
A guiding light to avoid this end can be found in history, the writing of the Talmud by the rabbinical collage many hundreds of years ago. The Ten Commandments were explored by the Rabbis for several decades before publishing a set of works that relate the commandments to day to day life and its implications subtle and obvious for personal behavior.
The basics that Bill Whittle have listed as desirable traits can all be perverted into dogmatism if not constantly tested for the same. Like the Talmud, the limits and implications of Bills society must be explored by the finest minds we can bring to bear and possibly if we humans are lucky, the bridge may be built in our minds before the first plank is laid.
The internet has provided a way out of the social cycle we have been born into, in normal times a greater society being enveloped by a lesser one or lesser ones, generally fails to maintain its elevated status and overall measures of social greatness are seen to fall. This is obviously happening to our society in real time as we watch. The reasons? Twenty million people from a lesser culture injected into our society with NO repercussions, no ?Retaliating?.
A cohesive culture rising from this internet needs a cohesive central strategy and AN AGREED APON SET OF MORALS. What is ?Nice? what is ?forgiving??
Given that a set already exists there will obviously be some competition from the religious for the adoption of established Christian / western mores.
I believe that the precepts of the ten commandments can be found in a detailed study of advanced social Darwinism, that Bill Whittles social theorem of ?Nice. Retaliating. Forgiving. Non-envious.? Can be found in both the ten commandments AND Darwinism. Thus giving BOTH groups of adherents a reason to trust each other and work towards a commonly understood goal.

BTW, I can teach hard rock mining, core drilling, Mineral separation, CNC machining & programming, PERL, SQL, Sonoran desert survival, horse and dog training, some science and history.



Dave, dealing with the vandals is going to be a significant issue.

1) Genuine damage - defacing wiki pages for example - will be easily fixed if we have the proper backups.

2) Trolls are more difficult, especially sophisticated ones. They try to damage the relationships between other participants. As discussed, trust is valuable, it's loss affects the entire group.

That's the reason I think it should take some effort to become a member. Those that participate should have something at risk - there should be something to retaliate against.

The cost to participate doesn't need to be high, especially at the beginning. But it should be real.



I knew this place was special when someone else (Porphyrogenitus) suggested McIntyre's After Virtue as a good read. I think that I have found my online home :) For so helping me find an online bastion of hope, all of you (especially Bill) have my thanks.

I possess a variety of skills, some better than others: ancient and medieval philosophy, Thomistic theology, Latin, Greek, history of Rome and Greece, knowledge of all things Roman Catholic, basic computer tech support, camping and basic outdoor skills (I am an Eagle Scout), and the ability to read and write well in English. I have read all sorts of books and have lots of arcane knowledge, but the above represents those things that I love and could teach.

Bill, I can only partially agree that the remnant does not share a philosophy: we share philosophies. One important feature of current culture that MacIntyre pointed out is that we live in an age of competing traditions. To summarize MacIntryre far too quickly, in our society we have ways of thinking (traditions) that are themselves coherent and rational but cannot communicate to other ways of thinkings because they disagree so vehemently on presuppositions. That the remnant can even communicate shows that we share a tradition. Inside a tradition, however, stands a plurality of particular traditions - philosophies - that share certain presuppositions. If the above is true, we should strive to figure out the multiple philosophies of the Remnant so that we can better communicate amongst ourselves and others. For we will not all agree on certain presuppositions, and debating on those as a group is not likely to be productive. Instead, on what we disagree on we should debate as individuals, and such debate must be seen as fundamentally different for us not to be sidetracked by it. In light of the above, I am excited to share what I know with people interested in learning and civilized enough to realize that we might profoundly disagree. Omnia ad bonum! (everything is for the good for those who are good).



Hi. I'm an aerospace engineer by education (BS, MS, most of a Ph.D.), and a code monkey by vocation. Back when I was an apprentice in the Ivory Tower, I taught Engineering Statics, Engineering Dynamics, and Astronautics. I suppose I could dust my lecture notes off...

And for what it's worth, I wrote a series of posts titled "Space Travel for Dummies" on my weblog.



Hi All,
Holy cow - I thought I was early this morning, and look how late I am :) I'm an artist and housewife (home accountant, handyman, dog whisperer, etc). I can teach some basic drawing skills, and I'm really good at following directions. And sometimes, I even know when it's better just to ignore the directions altogether.

Once again, Bill, you've almost made me weep with relief and renewed hope. Thank you for that.



Count me in, Bill. I have been a fan since I was pointed to TRIBES while in a message board (a heartfelt "thanks" to that faceless poster). I AM NOT ALONE - what an uplifting thing to know! I have felt the shivers of acknowlegement & understanding many times while enjoying your essays.

I am a small business consultant (finance), ex-banker, part-time farmer, and an avid fisherman & boater. Happy to help as I can.

As things progress, might I humbly suggest a meeting-of-the-minds in the real world? An extended weekend at a pleasant location among my fellow Remnants would be great.



I'm right on board with this idea. It has a virtual Galt's Gulch feel to it.

I can navigate a ship both through visual piloting and electronically. I also brew some pretty mean beer.

This is the first time I've left a comment but have been reading and absorbing for some time. I'm looking forward to greater participation.



I am an avid sailor and a strong advocate of the 2nd Amendment; I abhor sloppy thinking and poor syntax. I can teach sailing, boat maintenance, computer programming, simple PC repair/maintenance, etc. I was introduced to the Remnant concept a decade ago by my twin brother, to whom I am eternally indebted. HISTORY, COURAGE, and CONFIDENCE were essays that brought out the not-alone response for me and are the essays I always recommend to introduce folks to www.ejectejecteject.com

I am broadly versed on a variety of topics, most specifically on WW2 history, and would be honored to provide any and all assistance to help the Ejectia! concept move forward and to help any members with particular questions or problems...(sorry if, in my excitement, this has gone on too long)



I'm right on board with this idea. It has a virtual Galt's Gulch feel to it.

I can navigate a ship both through visual piloting and electronically. I also brew some pretty mean beer.

This is the first time I've left a comment but have been reading and absorbing for some time. I'm looking forward to greater participation.



Muscledaddy, I confess that I don't completely understand your question about the SCA. Are you asking if anyone here belongs to the SCA, or if this idea has correlations to the SCA?



I read your essays when prompted by my daughter, who is a regular reader. I am a United Methodist minister and life-long Scout leader.

I have felt my entire life that we are in a situation like that faced by the Church after the collapse of the Roman Empire in the West. We have to take the best of what is in danger of being lost and transmit it to a new culture.

It frustrates me when I think of how little clout I have, in organizational terms. But over 35 years, I have left behind me scores of people who are growing up to look at the world differently.

It is wearisome to say the same things over and over again, but I keep saying them, because so many have never actually heard them. They've only heard from the showboats and the causemongers. But there's a whole life out there, a path to follow (though good guides are few).

Thank you for your essay.



Wayne,

Belongs - many people are drawn to it for the ideals of Chivalry, Honor & Courtesy found in the finest Arthurian traditions - others for the opportunity to learn - still others for the opportunity to engage in the occasional honorable stand-up fight in a world that seems to have disappointingly few of those.

Seemed like a no-brainer (the obvious correlation), but then I think a LOT of things ought to be no-brainers.

So I thought I'd ask.

- MuscleDaddy



Wow! Such a huge response in a short time is awe inspiring. I can't wait to see how this develops.



MuscleDaddy, SCA, sort of. Just pulled off a rather successful Ren Faire at the Academy with help from SCA. Nothing boys enjoy more than clubbing one another over the course of an afternoon with padded weapons.



my name is Nic Cruickshank, I am 27 and live in midtown Toronto. I have wrotten Bill a few times and I am incredibly excited about this idea. Ejectia seems like a first move in the right direction. I work for Canada's largest cable company. I am also a voice over actor as well, and would be willing to provide free voice over work to this new community for ads or other voice over related work. I have little else to offer short of my own thoughts and committment to helping this idea out.



Another librarian here! I manage library services at a mid-size community college in eastern N.C. Prior to this job, I cataloged books and other library materials for 22 years. If what you want is on the Web or in a subscription journal database, I can find it, and I can teach you how to search.

I was raised on a small farm, so I have or can probably resurrect the skills associated with keeping a farmstead going. I can recognize and assimilate common sense when I find it. I subscribe to neither optimism nor pessimism, but am rather fond of pragmatism. I can usually detect the flaws in plans or patterns, which makes me a good proofreader, but somewhat of a killjoy for the more spontaneous folks of my acquaintance.

I second with a hearty "yeah, THAT!" the points Monster makes about communication and critical thinking is his/her post of 5.21.07, 8:13 pm. I would only add a plea for the adoption of E.E. "Doc" Smith's precisionist language as a general concept.

To Mathman and Richard Riley above, whose pleas for data organization are calling to this cataloger's soul, I say: start tagging this data with a CONTROLLED but CROSS-REFERENCED thesaurus of tag terms.

Mr. Whittle, thank you.



My name is John Galt. By training I'm an engineer and pilot (jets & helos). I earn a living tutoring sorority women in chemistry, physics, calculus and economics. If you've decided to build a retreat to survive, I can teach you how to plan water and waste systems, solar-powered heating and similar.

If we can stave off disaster for a few more years, I'm interested in finding solutions to the energy problem, and to developing a much-improved transit system. Anyone who's curious can find that here:
http://members.cox.net/prtdesign/PRTpage.htm

Great concept, Bill.



Roxanne -- I agree! Those sorts of tags online are usually called "metadata".

Perhaps we could investigate RDF/OWL tagging of some kind.



Hello all. Great article and idea. I've loved Bill's essays for years and have tried to turn others on to them as well.

I am an international relief and development worker from Dallas. I love to discuss and ponder appropriate technologies, nation and community building and thinking about the important factors in seeing societies develop/change.

I am a follower of Jesus and that fits into what I do as well. I know Central Asia / Afghanistan extremely well. Off to Darfur sometime soon.

Look forward to hanging out with y'all.



Hi all. My name is Jay. I live in Northern Virginia with my wonderful wife and dog. Like many others here, I'm a computer scientist by training and could teach a couple dozen programming languages, as well as (and more importantly) the principles behind programming. I'm also pretty well versed in database administration. In my other life I'm a military historian with a handful of publications. I don't know if it's possible to teach a love of history, but I've always dreamed of trying. I also like to find ways to synthesize my vocation and avocation, so I've developed some database applications that allow me (or anyone else who was so inclined) to enter and collate historical information into a database and use it to analyze an event. I also draw maps for history books; currently I'm working on about my 80th such project. I'm a big believer in the graphical transmission of information, a la Tufte and Wired's "Infoporn."

Does this endeavour of Bill's remind anyone else of Spider Robinson's "Callahan's Crosstime Saloon"? As many have already said, count me in.



Bill,

I am not one to disagree with your points very often, and I think you are quite right in your summation here. Let me just say a few words about this topic though. If we are talking virtue, then the first must be self interest. Putting yourself before others and acting in your own best interest is the greatest virtue of all. We have not been taught this. We are all told that putting others first and helping other people is the highest moral goal. it is clearly not so. All of the socialist thinking makes self-sacrifice the highest goal. Ultimately what this leads to is contempt for your fellow man. Once there it is an easy path to killing millions. There is a parable in the bible of the man who had two sons. The father asks both of them to tend the fields. The first son said he would, but then left and never worked. The second son said he would not, but then did. Who did the fathers word? the second. This is an economic point. those who profess that they want to help the poor and talk endlessly about more social welfare never end up helping people, they just make them slaves to the system. the capitalist on the other hand says he has no interest in helping the poor, but the consequences of the capitalist's actions leads to a better situation for the poor. Who helps the poor those who say they care for them, or those who don't? I blame John Stuart Mills ideas of utilitarianism and The legend of Robin Hood for the position we are in. We might ask ourselves though if by fighting to preserve western civilization, might we be just slowly killing it by allowing the looters and the moochers to continue to live off our hard work. They always depend upon people like you Bill to get them out of trouble. What if you didn't? What if we grant them their premises and let them see the consequences of their actions. what if instead of helping to preserve the world, we withdrew from it and gave them all what they want. I'm not saying I actually advocate this but maybe its time to dust off Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged and see if maybe its time we started listening to John Galt.



I teach Spanish at the middle and high school level -- I've taught everything from 6th grade exploratory to Spanish V literature surveys.

I picked up Spanish in the highlands of southern central Mexico, where I lived for four years of my childhood. We were missionaries for a multidenominational evangelical outreach to the Tarascan Indians of Michoacan.

I deal with the problems and opportunities of immigration every day. I'll be glad to pass on anything I can.



I have not agreed so much with a writer since I first came across Robert Heinlein as I do Bill Whittle. A great explanation of the Prisoner's Dilemma. On to what I can teach, I have a degree in Nuclear Engineering, but my talents are in Risk Assessment and teaching complicated concepts to almost anyone (not my words). I have a great deal of trivia rattling around in my skull which is of dubious value. I'm good with cars, guns, golf, reading and research. I'm currently writing a science fiction novel, but I don't know if it will measure up to the standards of those writers I admire.

I have been a reluctant pessimist most of my life. I keep seeing the approach of what Poul Anderson calls in several novels "The Long Night" of civilization. I'd really like for it not to happen in my son's lifetime. Sign me up for whatever i can do to help.



Roxanne - Woohoo! Another Doc Smith Fan!!! Talk about feeling like you're all alone...

I've been looking for certain of both Heinlein and Smith books for quotes, but I can't locate the ones I need. The Doc Smith one I've been trying to find lately is in Subspace Explorers, after they defeat the enemy space fleet, about how the habitual brute is not the most dangerous sort of person, it's the even-tempered person who decides that he has to get violent in order to eliminate a threat, but I can't remember how he worded it.



Hi, I'm jetsam from the Insta-flood. I really enjoyed the article. I'd like to be involved in Ejecta. I'm in Bellevue, Wa. And as far as what I'm good at AND can teach I can write, operate handguns, and fix most Windows issues. Possibly more, but that's what's off the top of my head.

Again, great article.



A wonderful post, I am a bit of a Generalist, but I love learning and I love teaching. I also am a firm believer in Duty, Honor, Country and I will admit to a little despair over the last few years. This post and the comments that followed have been quite uplifting.



Ok Bill,

I've never left a comment on someone's weblog before, so I'm taking up your challenge. I've been a computer programmer for almost 30 years. Mostly business applications such as payroll, inventory, point-of-sale and such. I'd be happy to help anyone in that area when needed. I'm also a hot-rod buff. I've built a few Mopar 440 engines with some success and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I even raced some. I've moved on from cars to Harleys at this time and am getting my feet wet there as we speak. I've read your thoughts and musings for countless years now, and wished I was as articulate. You've spelled out my own feelings so many times that I feel I've found a long lost brother. I've printed some of your essays and attempted to distribute them amongst the disbelievers, sometimes successful and sometimes not. I've found truth here in a land of "truthers" who haven't a clue. Thank you for that. I relish each and every essay, but I must say that until your recent news, I found them way too far apart. I see that changing as we speak, and it brings me great joy. In your discussion about bettering yourself, (and others in the meanwhile) let me say that I had been considering for some time applying for my conceald weapons permit in the state of Texas, and after all the news and discussion around the VA Tech shootings, I have begun to persue just that. I have the paperwork from the state and am currently looking at a hand gun. I don't know if I'll ever find myself in a circumstance to need it, but feel compelled to make sure I am not defenseless if it ever occurs. I read a few other weblogs daily: Wizbang and Kit du Toit as a couple of examples. Kim was kind enough to respond to a couple of my emails when I was deciding on a weapons purchase. (Thanks Kim, your advice is invaluable)

I'd be happy to be included in the new Ejectia community if there is any way that I may make a contribution. Thank you for offering, and I think this will be a very fun adventure indeed.

Mark Henning



I'm Tryllianne. I've got a Humanities degree from MIT, which makes me another of the techie generalists.

I try to take technical jobs, such as software QA, but I always end up in management, because I can't help but wade in when I see a problem that needs straightening out. In my spare time, I write, and read, and make jewelry. I also own a gun.

I can't stand stupidity, and treachery, and liars. I always stand up to bullies. The idea of the remnant resonates with me. I always think of myself as a sheepdog, ever on the lookout for wolves, and protecting the innocent. I think that society can become so far removed from evil that they lose their ability to defend themselves from it, because they can no longer recognize it.

I also firmly believe that a healthy society needs an unexplored frontier, a place for people to direct their dreams and ambitions, and space is that frontier (okay, Gene Roddenberry said it first).

It's such a relief to find this site, and so many like-minded people. Hello to all!



History is our guide. Our own recent history points to the inescapable fact that things have to go to hell before people wake up. The only good thing about Jimmy Carter's presidency was that the utter failure of his policies led to this country electing Ronald Reagan and saving the world, for a time. We as a society are worse now than the late seventies. 9/11 should have been the wakeup call that we so badly needed, but instead of being the reality check it should have been, it has had the opposite effect, which shows just how far we have fallen. Millions of people in this country and around the world have so lost touch with reality that people who belive 9/11 was a conspiracy are in the majority. That is a scary, scary thought. There is some hope left though. the elections in Canada, Germany, and most surprising of all France, show that there are still rational people in this world. I am just afraid that in this country it will take the monumental failure of the policies of a Hillary or Obama presidency to make us realize just what it is we are fighting for, the preservation of western civilization. Most frightening of all is that i think it will take a disaster much larger than 9/11 for many of the so-called leaders to do anything, and even then I am afraid that people will still just blame Bush's foreign policy and cling to the idea that if we are just nice they will be nice to us. I dont know if the world is redeemable yet, its going to have to get a lot worse before it can get better.



I can count the number of people I know who know who Doc. Smith is on one hand.



MuscleDaddy,
I had to look it up.

Would that be the Society for Creative Anachronism or Sexually Compulsives Anonymous?

Just ignore me when I get like this.



Incredible as always. When I read your stuff, it's like your inside of my head saying everything I want to say.

Hi, my name is Blake Hitchcock. I'm a 2nd year sophomore at the University of Tennessee, majoring in Computer Science. I know some Linux, some C, some HTML, and some CSS. I'm also into cycling, both mountain and road. Nice to meet everyone.



Over the years, I've caught a lot of flak from passengers who think I should screw over other drivers.

However, that often stops rather suddenly when I come to a lane closing and merge point where cars in one lane won't let cars in the other merge in with them.

I stop and let one car in. One car. And then I tell my passengers to look behind me as the drivers behind me start taking turns at the merge point. Sometimes it only takes one person.

On the other hand... as pointed out in the essay, you cannot simply let people fly by in the soon-to-be-closed lane, thinking that they'll dodge in at the last moment, either.



My name is Frank and I've never been as impressed and excited by something I've read as I am at this very moment.

Skills:
I am a photographer, an IT guy (servers, switches, routers, etc), a cyclist (not sure how that can help, but there it is), a writer, a father, and I've worked construction, excavation and sales. I love to pass on what knowledge I have accumulated over the years to anyone who wishes to listen.

I lay my sword at your feet, a humble servant ready to contribute anything that I can to this ideal.



My name is Tom. I am a chemistry professor and worked in the pharmaceutical industry before that. I look forward to meeting as many of you as I can.



Re-Posting, less the names of those who have already hailed...,
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AlexaKim, Skyechild, Chase, Charles, Otto, LabRat, Mark Paules, Unquiet, Paul A., DougMan...

The influx is as impressive as it is heartening - but I would not like us to lose one another in the rush.

muscledaddy_2ATyahooDOTcom.

- MuscleDaddy



I'm rooting for you Bill, seriously, but I have far too low an opinion of people (especially on the intertubes) to be as optimistic as you about Ejectia.
I'm sure I don't have to warn you, but it will require the utmost vigilance to make it work and even then, there will be too many people who will try to make it fail.

Daddyquattro, check Mrs. DuToit's weblog, she used to sell a home-school package and her kids are home-schooled.



This is a first for me. The thought provoking aspects of the articles in EjectEjectEject has led me here.
Unlike others with professional areas of expertise, I am but a simple farmer; a member of the second oldest profession..one which unlike prostitution has a dwindling population. I know how to make things grow.



MuscleDaddy, you get a solid. Coming at ya.



Matt Soliday,
Several people have reference Rand here, and her rational view of the world. But she descended into dogma, and lost touch with the spiritual side of man.
Self-sacrifice is only evil when you choose to sacrifice for no self gain.

For instance, if there were only four pieces of bread in my house, guess who would go hungry. Were I to choose self-interest over my responsibility (self-inflicted) to provide for my kids, I would loose respect for myself as a man and a father. Full belly today...Empty soul tomorrow.

If, on the other hand, I had five pieces of bread and I fed my kids and the neighbor next door just because he was there, that would be a sacrifice with no benefit to myself.

Sorry, not a very good analogy, but I think you get it.



My name is Sara and I'm happy to see that there are people with character out there.
I have some skills. I can manage money, and I can teach that. I can translate science into English, spell nearly anything, and know an inordinate amount of trivia. I don't know that I can teach those skills. I am also a good listener.
If I can help, I'd be happy to.



My name is Sara and I'm happy to see that there are people with character out there.
I have some skills. I can manage money, and I can teach that. I can translate science into English, spell nearly anything, and know an inordinate amount of trivia. I don't know that I can teach those skills. I am also a good listener.
If I can help, I'd be happy to.



To Matt Soliday (5/22 11:26 AM),
Yes we are taught to look out for #1 first. It's just that it's buried in the language and ignored. When Christ was asked what the greatest commandments were he responded that the first was to love God and the second was to love thy neighbor AS THYSELF. Logically, then, there are three important commandants: Love God, Love Thyself, Love Thy Neighbor. In that order. If these three commandments were taught deliberately, conciously, I suspect socialism/collectivism wouldn't have been the genocidally murderous scourge of the planet that its history shows it to be.



Hello all ...
This is going to sound made-up but for the last year I have been getting more and more disturbed by what I was seeing happen to our society. Everything from the WOT, taxes, the welfare state was slowly but surely causing me to sink into a slightly depressed state. Normally I am a vicious fighter against the tide but this tide was starting to look unstoppable. I have not slept through the night in months, up pacing in my living room. When my wife asks me "whats up ?" my only answer has been a shrug and a fumbling attempt to explain all the things that I feel powerless to stop from overwhelming us.
This essay comes at a good time and gives me some hope that there is something that can be done. On the surface it may be futile but I believe it can give people like me some small measure of purpose in a decaying society.

I am a 50 year old married software consultant living in New York City (not the NYC of Friends but the NYC of Law and Order, 120th street and 1st Ave, Harlem). I have a degree in Ocean Engineering. 10 years in the US Navy, 5 as an officer, 1980-1985. Novice PHP coder, play alot with databases, handyman carpenter, atheist.

I'm not sure how good a teacher I can be but I am a great problem identifier and solver. My work for the last 20 years has been officially labeled: Business Analyst. What that means in the real world is I am asked to sit down with business people and understand their business with an eye towards improvements. Find the friction, the logjam, the bent workflow.
So instead of teaching you something you don't know I can help you discover what you know but just don't realize yet. My clients discover their problem are, with my help.

So I'll be watching the proceedings and like the little boy in the corner will try to point out where I see something off the track.

Feel free to throw things my way but I must warn you, in the words of my loving wife, "You are an acquired taste".



My name is Don and I am, at present, a parts planner; a vocation which I don't see much use for here. In a past life I was a mechanical engineer and still practice that from time to time for myself. And I am delighted to find this!

My politics are Jacksonian. You are safe unless you mess with me or mine. After that all bets are off.

I can:

reason logically;
play a guitar;
mix mortar or concrete;
lay bricks (sorta);
do basic carpentry;
paint a house (very well);
drive most anything with wheels or tracks;
operate a lathe and a vertical milling machine;
re-flue a steam boiler;
operate said steam boiler;
operate a saw mill;
operate a wheat thresher;
do basic blacksmithing;
shear a sheep (don't ask);
brew my own beer;
hit a target at 100 yards with a rifle;
hit a target at 25 feet with a pistol;

I can do other things as well but that should do for a start.



Wow. Good to hear I'm not alone.

Oh, and Bill, (if you ever get this far down the list of comments) I can tell you exactly what you would like to know in what to do about a dirty bomb exploding 5 miles from your house.



Hello, my name is Jeremy. I'm one of those evil MBA's, and I have a good understanding of finance, economics, market research, and operations management. I can even explain why these things matter, and how they can be put to use. I'm good a math, and I've even used algebra and statistics for personal use. Mainly in planning cookouts and in playing fantasy sports.

I used to install gas log fireplaces, and I know my way around a grill. Lately I've even learned how to change a diaper in less than 30 seconds. I also wanted to say it would be an honor to contribute to this community.



daddyquatro, sent you email just now. Oh, and Blastofarti - that was serendipity, a confluence of effluence. Once upon a time I liked Ed Asner, but more and more I saw him arguing on the other side of the fence from where I slowly realized I stood. In 2004, Kucinich's campaign hosted a website that included a page of endorsements from Grandfather Time and all the little woodland creatures. That page is now gone but amazingly stayed up for over a year after the elections. Maybe some savvy web archivist could find it for entertainment purposes. Anyway, Asner showed up in a list of Hollywood entertainers endorsing Kucinich, so it fit to linguistically key him into a lead role in my spoof of the E!3 motto, wishing all of their type to swiftly vanish from their constant presence naysaying the USA. In fact he's pretty much disappeared, yet there is still Rosie et al...



Hello, my name is Matt.

I can teach you a lot of things about absolutely nothing and even more things about the Internet, the best places and times to catch good striper, cleaning your pistol, college football and the travesty that is the BCS, and several other things that I'm pretty sure 99% of the world would find uninteresting, but I have an honest concern for.

Ejectia is a long time over do, and I cannot wait.



Im in Bill!!

Me (the "Domestic Engineer")



Oh I forgot to introduce myself!

Im Sharon Ferguson, Im a housewife and homeschool mom with a degree in anthropology and a minor in geography, but I love to garden, crochet - am learning to knit; I also like to write and pride myself on having a discerning eye where that comes in (otherwise I wouldnt enjoy your blog or others so much!) I live near Houston, and cherish history and literature.



My name is Tim.

I know a host of stuff, mostly unusable to anyone including myself, but I can teach the history of civilisational power and its tranferral from one group to either another group or individuals.



This appears to be an internet "Galt's Gulch."



Name's Garth. You can call me 'River' if you'd like. I'm a Pianist, Organist and Keyboardist, as well as general Musician, I am also a Computer Science graduate with a good deal of experience with CMS and web development and scripting. I also dabble in nearly everything; fitness, gardening, beverage making, cooking, literature, poetry, photography, and can teach basic things in all of them.

Excellent to meet you all. Sadly I cannot read all of the comments...

I hope my Brother posts here; he is a far superior programmer, and would be invaluable as a link to the Open Source community.



I am a jack of all trades, master of few.

I've really been enjoying your essays, Bill, though this is the first time I have commented.

Count me in.



Bill - I was just reminded of a commercial that has been showing up a lot recently - its either for an insurance company or a financial securities company, but the whole thing is about the ripple effect that honorable deeds have - that people NOTICE - it starts with a woman stopping a man from walking out into traffic, then it goes into more scenes of people just in the general millieu who, in one small honorable deed or another, catch the attention of someone nearby, which then causes them to do one small honorable deed for someone else.

We also call this "Pay It Forward" - when my daughter was born 2 months premature, I was ASTOUNDED and deeply touched by the generosity of others to help us out. I will be spending my lifetime paying all of that foreward. So far, I have probably failed more than succeeded, but I am inspired by what you've written today.



Otto,
Thanks, I got everything but the blastofarti part. With all the talk of Douglas Adams and The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, I couldn't stop thinking of Slartibartfast.

"I will say that among the most resonant attitude I've bumped into here is Alexa Kim's meerkat, fidgeting a bit and keenly on watch."

You sir, can turn a phrase.

By the way, my email is daddyquatro AT hotmail DOT com. I put D4 earlier and it has led to some confusion.

I used to like Ed Asner also. "Lou Grant" was my favorite TV show, (Give me a break, I was young.) so much so that I wanted to be a journalist. Just saw an episode the other day. Through the prism of 30 years more experience, what elitist pricks they were!

D4/Stan



Congratulations, Bill. The essay was the usual great stuff (and I HATE that you can write these things, and not have to do a million edits and redrafts, like the rest of us poor schlubs). I will not claim the title of being a "Remnantian" (when the time comes, I either will be, or I won't), but I'd LOVE to become an Ejectian.

I'm a lawyer, living in Palos Verdes, California, and practicing in Santa Monica. I can DEFINITELY teach/counsel people on basic "survival" law - how to keep from "getting screwed by the man". I can teach you a lot about single malt Scotch - and THAT, my friends, is knowledge worth having! I can teach you how to cook - yes, even YOU can cook a decent meal. I can teach lots of other fun stuff, but this will get us started.

Ejectia forever!



Wow...what more can I say? I'm so excited about this opportunity to share and learn.

I'm Jenny in Kansas City. I do a lot of things. I'm a mother of 5 (ranging in age from 15 - 7)so I can cook some kick-butt comfort food. I also have gained a lot of wisdom I can share about raising kiddos.

I can teach how to field dress, skin, and process a deer.

I currently do customer service but am trying to start my own business (would love some pointers on the business part) painting murals, banners, etc. (some of my work is at www.hotgarageart.com).

I can teach how to get proportions correct when drawing or painting.

I can lay tile and hang/mud drywall and do a lot of DIY home maintenance stuff.

What skills I don't possess myself I generally know someone who does.

Know a bit about Harleys and biker etiquette. Member of Patriot Guard Riders.

I can't wait til this gets going! What an amazing opportunity for us all to do something.

X-lurker



Hi all:

I love this sight as it always helps to relieve the stress of watching things collapse. I'm 49, single and live in San Clemente, Ca--ground zero of the illegal alien invasion. I'm skilled and can teach a lot of things that are not technical in nature. My best asset is a sense of humor and the ability to get things done in a group setting if people are results oriented. BTW--Meg--do you live in Texas?



Am I the only person for whom the term "ejectia" strongly suggests... "ejaculate"?

Beyond the disturbing name for the enterprise, I think it's an intriguing idea, EXCEPT...

What is going to distinguish this from something like, say, Wikipedia? A whole bunch of people are going to go to a website and try to get across what they know. Are you talking one-on-one teaching? Already done: it's called qunu.com. Beyond that, is an ability to teach something the same as the ability to teach it _in writing_? You Bill, are a rare talent in writing. I personally think I'm pretty good at getting ideas across in prose, but I'm not nearly as entertaining as you -- which of course means the ideas don't travel far for lack of audience.

I'm not trying to slap down the idea... if something of this concept could be made to work -- great! The questions need to be asked first.

Okay, intro:
My name is Stephen Rider. The single thing at which I am best, which touches on many other aspects and topics, is Cold, Hard, Logic. I'm good with computers (especially Macs) because, essentially, I'm good at thinking like one. I'm also a wiz with English grammar. I'm pretty good at expressing what I sometimes call "conceptual architecture" -- that is, if I understand a topic well, I'm good at breaking it down into discrete chunks that can be explained and built up into an understanding of the overarching whole.

I'm not sure if such a thing can be taught, as it is more of a thought process than an area of knowledge. At the least, learning it would require a willingness to discard entire patterns of habitual thought in favor of something new.

I'm not sure how much I can contribute; but I'm interested to see where this goes. :)



Gee, where should I start, fellow Ejectians? I know quite a bit about a few things and a little about many things. I can teach you how to gentle a wild horse and eventually ride him; I can show you how to grow grapes and make them into a fine wine. How to fight a forest fire and survive without getting burned, fly a hundred miles in a hang glider powered only by natural forces. How to write a news story, what it was like in combat in Vietnam; how to make a bow and arrows from scratch that can bring down an elk, how to make cowboy tack from leather. I would love to help build Ejectia and make whatever small contribution I am capable of making.



Count me in. Bill you are a true visionary. I have thought for some time that the Internet would change the world drasticly. I think of it as a collective consciousness (no not like the Borg!). The brain develops by making connections. I see the Internet doing that on a global scale. Bill your effort can help steer this development in a virtuous direction.

My skill list?

Master's Degree in Electrical Engineering.

Black Belt

Master qualification with a rifle

Mr. Fix-It around the house



Hi, my name is Jamie Irons.

I am a physician, and an expert on psychotropic medication; I administer a very large department of psychiatry, and consult regularly with physicians in every specialty. My background is in chemistry, physical chemistry and molecular biology. I know something about poetry, and a fair bit about birds!

I really loved this essay, and I am very excited about Mr. Whittle's project, though I doubt my skills, such as they are, are very useful in this context.

Jamie Irons



I'm Karishma.

In a different world, I'd probably be a nun, but in this one God said that would be running away from my responsibilities. So I'm working on trying to be the best wife and mother I can be.

I work as a nurse in a hospital, but see my vocation as being more of a health facilitator - helping people live healthy habits so they can stay out of hospitals. Haven't quite figured out the best way to do this yet, but that's what I'm here to do.

As far as knowledge and skills go, I know a lot about human biology, medicine, and health, as well as the healthcare system. I also have a degree in engineering, and am pretty good at looking at systems and finding inefficiencies that can be corrected.

I'd be thrilled with the opportunity to learn from the wealth of wisdom and experience in this community and maybe contribute something as well.



DQ:

Self-sacrifice is only evil when you choose to sacrifice for no self gain.
Despite baseball terminology, that isn't really a sacrifice. That's an investment. Those who ask us to sacrifice want us to give value for nothing in return. By enshrining the ideal of sacrificing one's self interest for 'the greater good', they can excuse any atrocity.

Don't buy it. As Bill has demonstrated, there are perfectly good selfish reasons to 'play nice'. Living in a society where the overwhelming majority of citizens are, well, civilized, is good for all of them. No one need sacrifice anything.



Hi, my name is alexa.

Yes, I prefer to lc my name because it follows the paradigm set long ago, just to keep matters simple, of not ini capping or capping at all, straight text in code or commands. The shift key would play with others only when needed to execute a function.

I ask good questions. I try very hard to not ask the Why question. Because usually, not always, the answer is not satisfying. But I'll ask it when it can no longer be resisted.

I am imminently trainable. Show me once, maybe twice, how to do something, and I'll have it. Then I'll usually quietly spend time trying to figure out how to do it better; it happens automatically, I can't stop it. But at least now, I keep it myself until I am asked. And sometimes, not even then will I say. Too often, it's just resented. Another reason I've often felt alone.

Ejectia doesn't shine beautiful and shimmery to me from a distant hill. It feels present and simply needs us and other like-minded people to define it and then describe it to others. Living conspicuously as citizens of a special place will attract others to ask you why. This works so much better than proselytizing.

I am far more interested in politics than might be directly, personally healthy; watching politicians posture and prattle can be very demoralizing. I hope I can rely on the help of the good people here to help sustain me when needed.

Last night, as I was trying (still trying) to catch up on the posts throughout You Are Not Alone and Bill's latest essay, I was thrilled, envigorated and felt a spark of hope.

Now, hope is a very rare commodity in my soul. I rarely hope. Partly because of my culture: raised American, but simultaneously reared in the customs of Mexicans, I have long heard and lived the way of "what will be, will be." While I thought Doris Day was cute and perky singing "Que Sera, Sera," I was amused by how far away it is from the dark fatalism that stalks the Hispanic psyche. Don't get me wrong, it's not like Mexicans mope around all the time. Let's just say, any culture that gets its jollies from watching bulls tortured to death, is not a culture that's going to turn to humor for relief. Just saying.

BTW, that aspect of Hispanics is very similar to that I've read a soldier post on his milblog about the Iraqi or Arab people: "insh'allah," something like "as God wills it." It's a kind of fatalism that sucks the wanna out of you faster than a self-detonated lumpy vest.

I want to sit back now and re-marshall the brilliant[please God let them be at least pretty good] thoughts I had last night and come back and offer them for discourse.

I am so very relieved and encouraged to know that I am not alone.



Hi gang, I'm Maureen in Northern Canuckistan. This is a terrific idea. I'm not 100% sure yet what I can teach, so it may be time for some navel-gazing.

As to how to survive a dirty bomb, Mr Whittle, I would like to refer you to the SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman. The 1993 version I have provides information on the little we can do to protect ourselves. This book also gives tips on surviving other disasters such as volcanoes, fires, hurricanes, shipwreck, etc - in varying climates.



As a soon-to-be college graduate, and a future history teacher, I appreciate this site and all the work that your are doing Bill. I hope to do my part to save Western Civilization.



Hi everybody. Senior citizen, retired USAF. Also spent a lot of time on 135's (RC's not KC's). I don't know that any of my "skills" would be revelant to this affair but I can take instruction and I play well with others. I like to learn something new everyday. Count me in.
Dick



Fabulous!

My heart jumps in recognition to the next step. Hi. I am Laura, and I live in So Cal. I am a certified gun nu,.. instructor, rifle, shotgun, pistol and personal protection. I am also well skilled in designing buildings so that they don't burn down. My best skill is training dogs and horses, but I'm a fair life coach for people also, working with others to make their goals come true. I grow and can fix your ills with herbs, as well as being a good gardener and cook in general. I am currently inspired by the Ninja Warrior series, and am working on my Mad Ninja skillz.



Monster(The)
That's what I was trying to say with my analogy. Told you it wasn't a very good one.



Present!



If this comments page is too long, it's now officially Dougman's fault.



New York City now has a lower crime rate than London. Why? Because Rudy Giuliani and Bill Braxton made it a policy to enforce the small laws.

Sorry for the nitpick (it's the engineer in me), but it's Bratton

Excellent points made in regards to the "Screw the other guy culture". We can see this in the current Amnesty scheme. When line jumpers aren't punished, then that just makes chumps out of the rest of us for waiting. That is until there's another line, then, Screw the other Guy!

From Wiki:

In 1994, William Bratton was appointed the 38th Commissioner of the New York City Police Department by Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani. He had success in this position, and introduced the CompStat system of tracking crimes, which proved successful in reducing crime in New York City and is still used to this day



I am a proud owner of Silent America and I can teach (somewhat)and comment on terrorist psychology, military intelligence and applied problem solving....(and offer acerbic commentary about cycling, shooting, and a few other topics)

joewarrant



Not jumping on you, DQ. It's just a great example of how you have to define your terms carefully, lest some con-man come along and play an intellectual Shell Game or Three Card Monster (heh) with you. The Clever Kids play their little word games all day long. If you don't carefully mind the chain of evidence from perceptual data through increasingly complex concepts, they'll have you believing nonsense in no time.

Example:
1) Nothing is better than complete happiness.
2) A ham sandwich is better than nothing.
3) A ham sandwich is better than complete happiness.

If you don't study epistemology, logic, etc., you'll be unable to detect tricks that are barely better concealed than this contrived example. Or, to make it bumper-sticker material...

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.



TJ, welcome to Ejectia.

I'm a history teacher myself, so don't hesitate to ask for lesson plans or advice on classroom management. I'm here for you.



Thanks, Mark Paules. I appreciate the offer of help, and when this thing gets running I might have to take you up on that. Although young and inexperienced in life, I'd be glad to offer any help I can in return.



Chills. I have chills. My hair actually stood up, which I always thought was just an overused figure of speech.

I'm in CA, but I'm packing to move to Ejectia.

Major skills: Mortgage lending and brokering, business administration, Federal compliance and licensing, converting bureaucratic nonsense into efficient, reasonable policy, interpreting Federal and legal documents, contract writing, developing training programs, I can also figure out how to fix any piece of office equipment by reading the manual

Minor skills: Some veterinary, degree in psychology, large animal husbandry, light aircraft piloting, sailing, CAD/CAM illustration, sewing, can handle small weapons and rifles, and can consistently cook edible food.

I look forward to being put to use.



"Am I the only person for whom the term 'ejectia' strongly suggests... 'ejaculate'?"

You may be. Myself, I think of ejecta blankets around craters on the moon. Still not exactly aeronautical, but I'm of those "I remember where I was when they landed on the Moon" kids, can't help it.

As for Ejectia, I assume the intent is to use -ia in the sense of the suffix denoting land or country. Tho if it came to a vote, I'd rather be called an Eject than and Ejectian.

It's just funnier that way.



Lara, thank you.

I now know that I am not alone and there is another person in this universe who watches Ninja Warrior.



Ken Barto,

Doc Smith? Oh, yeah! I've got "The Lensman" series and the "Skylark" series - and I simply CAN'T get my kids interested. Oh, well.

Heinlein, too, I presume? Orson Scott Card? I've become quite fond of Weber (used to read his "Honorverse" stuff, but I've expanded beyond those, now).

Now, to combine two of my passions, how'd ya like to discuss "speculative fiction" (I hate that euphemism!) over single malt Scotch?



Thank you for putting into words what I have felt for some time now. I manage a asphalt plant for the largest asphalt supplier in the US. I'm not sure how applicable my work skills will be...but I read between the lines well and feel I'm a good judge of people.



Monster(The),
Point taken.

To put my rambles in RiverCocytus.

My Kids = My Responsibility != Self-sacrifice

Neighbor's Kid != My Responsibility = Self-sacrifice.



Paging Mr. Dougman!

Mr. Dougman please call your office.

daddyquatro AT hotmail DOT com



I'm Robert in Torrance, just down the 405 freeway from Bill. I work as an accountant and have a knack for puzzles and games, for what that's worth. I'm particularly impressed with how Bill expresses what we all instinctually know deep down, but frequently have trouble expressing why in words. Like the example of why we instinctually get upset at drivers who wait until after the last second and end up stopping traffic in the slow lane, and the rest of the freeway, so they can cut in line, when they knew full well they were going to have to get over a mile before. Or how characters like Noam Chomsky can construct the big lie of omission out of cherry-picked grains of truth (the black grains of sand from white-sand beaches) while intentionally leaving out the overall picture. I have also read the monographs on Dissecting Leftism (which provided a link to this essay). Too bad the book doesn't ship until June. It would have made a great birthday gift to give tomorrow. Oh well, there's still Christmas. :)



Hello, all. I'm a long (long, long, *long*)time computer geek, who was a science geek before discovering computers in the 70's, a biblioholic since I learned to read, overgrown teenager for 30 odd (very odd) years. I've programmed from punch cards to Bayesian probability nets, and I've dabbled in painting (see my website and shudder) and learning languages. Meine Deutsche is sehr schecht, Ya panimayu ni mnoga Russki yazik, soshite, ima watashi wa nihongo ga benkyoushite imasu ga, mata jouzu ja arimasen. Thanks to the language quirk, I've been addicted to puns my whole life, egged on by my Dad and my brother (to the longsuffering of our distaff kin).

I've been a confirmed Groucho Marxist as well, on the sheep->sheepdog->wolf continuum, I'd have to say I'm a coyote, or maybe crow. I'm not liable to join any group that would have me as a member, as the great Marx said, or "Honk" in the immortal words of his brother. If I was to join up, it would have to be as "online court jester" since in real life I'm a guy who isn't quick enough with the wise words at the time they're needed, but give me a few hours and a keyboard to think about it, and I'm witty as hell! (Well, maybe halfway...)


(Serious mode. treasure it, it won't last...)

A series of books I've found that really resonates with the ideas Bill laid out here is the "Camulodunum" series by Jack Whyte, the first of which is called "The Skystone". It's set in Roman Britain, just as Rome is falling back from her territories, and the effect it has on her British-born citizens. It's basically a re-telling of the Arthurian legends, but starting two generations before Arthur himself (who doesn't show up until about volume 5 or 6). The main characters in the first book are two soldiers, one an aristocrat from Britain, the other who became his friend when he saved his life after a failed campaign in the African desert. The aristocrat offers a place for his friend back in Britain when their campaigning days are done, where he is setting up a "freehold" of sorts, to preserve the best of Roman culture once the Legions withdraw. Very moving stories, especially the building of "Camulodunum" and the lives of the people who live there.

(End serious mode. See?)

Anyway, I'll probably check back here time and again, just to see what's happening. I might even toss in the odd joke or so around the campfires.

Minna-san, ganbatte!




Robert in Torrance,
Puzzles.
Solving or making?



Great stuff! But where is the promised Global Warming post?



Mr. Whittle, D4/Stan, UnqMind, Chase, et al...

I'd like to introduce y'all to a fellow I've know and worked with in the past, who I believe to be a fine addition to the community, Mr. Kris Reinecke, Col., U.S. Army, (Ret.).

Kris. let me be the first to WELCOME you aboard!!!

Paul A.



The Monster, Are you out there? I have an idea I would like your advice\help on.

We can have the conversation here or you can contact me at unquietmind42@aol.com.



What to say that hasn't been said? I am an optimistic cynic-- I believe that everything will turn out well, because it usually does, but that there will be a certain percentage of idiots and heartless b--tards involved because that's likewise true.

I know how to listen and how to read very fast (useful over here) and it is not speed-reading, merely the outcome of reading for pleasure every day since the age of two. As an outgrowth of that, I have learned how to write pretty decently, a skill I have only recently put into practice.

I firmly believe that many people in society are suffering because they have been taught that logos is all and mythos is obsolete; instead I believe that myth is such an essential part of the human condition that we do ourselves harm when we try to remove it. Look at Flight 93. It exemplifies the better qualities of myth-- heroes sacrificing their lives for the better good.

It is a crying shame that "myth" now has the connotation of "falsehood."

I believe that beauty needs no reason, and that those killjoys who try to guilt people out of doing something beautiful by claiming the money could be better spent on something useful--i.e. "With the money the city spent on fireworks, we could have fed the hungry!"-- have missed the point entirely. Living, by itself, is not enough. One needs something to live for.

As to well-constructed arguments, as my post above illustrates, that is a bad idea for an intuitive personality to undertake. The argument tends to go sideways.

On a more mundane note, I am highly skilled in Photoshop and can do the sorts of edits that would make Stalin dance with glee. I even have to do such edits in the course of my job, which deals primarily with high school photography. I keep telling them, it's no use making rude gestures, we'll just remove them, but they don't listen.

I also sing, run a radio board, and do amateur theatricals. Furthermore, I have a talent for matching gifts to people, a skill that is primarily based on being able to remember things for years. It is a talent I wish I had more opportunity to exercise.

As for teaching, I will teach everyone one freeway stress-reducer right now. Look at the person doing the aggressive driving, and say, "Wow. They're in a hurry to get dead." It's amazing how much less stressful driving becomes when you realize that you're in no hurry to get dead.

UPDATE: I hate not being able to use KeyCaps. Beautiful typography is one of those things I adore.



Paul A.
Good Morning!



"black grains of sand from a white beach".

See, that's why I come here. That's why I read blogs. Not to get new ideas, necessarily, but to learn ways to better express the ones I have.

Not that I don't learn, too. ;-)



B. Durbin,
Welcome!
"over here"?



Jack MacKenzie, The Bunnies, Maureen/Dagny, and all others who aren't sure what you can teach others... You'll be surprised what you can teach people. There are things that you're so good at that you do them effortlessly, so you don't think it's a big deal. The only question is whether you can teach them to the rest of us, for whom your skills may require hard work. For that to work, we may have to make use of some particular skills like Dana, skeeter, LeftBrainFemale, Jeff C., the librarians and I have expressed; some people are good at helping others organize what they know into easily-digestible morsels.

When Bill struck that tuning fork, and something inside you vibrated to one of its harmonic frequencies, stirring you to post a comment here, even just to say "I'll do whatever I can, no matter how little that may be", it proved that you see things from a perspective that most people don't. I suspect that most of us have felt that way all our lives; things that seem obvious or simple to us, to others are complicated and difficult, and vice versa.

Even people who can burn water have one dish they can prepare and bring to the potluck dinner at the park Memorial Day weekend. And even if they don't, maybe they can give fire safety lessons.



As for teaching, I will teach everyone one freeway stress-reducer right now. Look at the person doing the aggressive driving, and say, "Wow. They're in a hurry to get dead." It's amazing how much less stressful driving becomes when you realize that you're in no hurry to get dead.

I like that. We do a similar thing. Only we drop the "get dead" part and say, "Well! They're in a hurry." Then we wonder how long it will be before we see them pulled over. It's by no means a majority or even a large minority, but we're surprised how often we see cars that careened around and between everyone pulled over several miles down the road.

On the "get dead" note, last trip we did see an overturned truck with lots of sparkly lighted vehicles around it about 20 minutes after it zoomed past.



I've been told I'm good at a couple of things and I've taught when I can. The problem is that most people are incapable of learning.

But lets be practical: the central problem will be consequences of nuclear terrorism in a major US port city. Will we have leaders who retaliate or who beg forgivness with laws to prevent discrimination against muslims? How can we survive as a house divided against ourselves?

If justice is demanded, what do we do with the enablers who encouraged our enemies to strike? How much blood will be required?

Echoing points raised above, do you have water and gasoline stored? Ammunition? Do you practice at the shooting range at least once a month?



Don't know if Ejectia would really be somethiing I would be interested in joining since I already belong to a church fellowship of like-minded people. I do feel it is an excellent thing for those of you who do not have a religion though.

However, I would like to add to the list of things we can all do to make this a better nation according to the learn how to cooperate strategy. Help to elect a congressman who does not feel it is his job to bring home the most pork to his district ( cooperation strategy ). Help to defeat those congressman who are the biggest porkmeisters ( screw the other guy's district and the rest of the nation for that matter strategy ).



Mark Paules, I am working on an idea. I am thinking of building and image or model applying our lever analogy but, in this case, I would like the fulcrum to be the strong point of our argument, rather than the weak point of our opponents argument or position.

For this lever, I want the fulcrum to be the solid foundation provided by the building blocks of western civilization. If each of the building blocks of western civilization were to be a brick or stone in the pyramid that will serve as my fulcrum, can you propose a list of pithy labels I could put on those building blocks?

Let's assume my fulcrum pyramid is presented in 3-D using, say POV- - fill in the blank here Monster - and I wanted to hint at or illustrate the evolutionary development of western civilization, built over time, from top to bottom, with the most elemental principals at the base in the foreground and subsequent and\or less significant elements on subsequently smaller stones moving up the pyramid or, through perspective, into the background.

Given such a presentation, in what position would one place each of the stones in my fulcrum?

I understand I am asking for your opinion, not historical facts. But you teacher are the best source I have.

Take as much time to think about it as you like. I'll wait for the good stuff.

I am headed into Chase's Lounge and that view out the front window enhances my natural tendency to pound beers. I have had a tough day in the real world and I have learned in just a few days that the view of Dougman's butt in the foreground fades and the galaxy gets clearer after the first few beers. ;-)

Chase!, Chase! I'll start with a Shiner Bok tonight, if you don't mind Sir. You seen daddyquatro or Otto around?



On the topic of common threads in books and science fiction and fantasy, I wonder if I am the only Discworld fan here...?



Cripes--where do I begin? I'm a tactical MI veteran from the early '80s--an interrogator. I'm a trained and quite passionate historian, particularly with regard to military history. Day to day I'm a welfare caseworker in Philadelphia. Tough job and it gets tougher by the day, but every day I "suit up" and go into the ring--not quite sure why, beyond the paycheck, and God knows there must be easier ways to make a living.

Insofar as I relax and distance myself from the job, I garden and volunteer for spay/neuter clinics for cats. I've other hobbies as well, but except for cooking they tend to get the short shrift these days. But they're still there.

As for teaching, I do seem to have some skill there--if I know it, I can teach it, and I've the prudence to know what I don't know.

I don't know how useful any of that will be--who's going to care about Kremlin intrigues, the logistical flaws of Operation Barbarossa, TANF policies or cheese sauces when the world's in the crapper--but if you want or need me I'm here....



Sign me up!



Theoretical physics (especially quantum physics), some math, two decades of college teaching and forty-odd years of eclectic reading. Not exactly the most obvious skill set for Saving Civilization; but what I have, I will share. Count me in.



I have the ability to find humor in...everything! I love making people laugh. Sorry, I can't post my picture in the comments as that would bring a smile to many.

I'm looking forward to occupying a 2 bedroom condo in Ejectia.



My name's Dave, and I live in Oklahoma. I know something about manufacturing and applied statistics. I learned to fly a plane years ago, and I was a combat engineer officer in the Army National Guard. I practice aikido and I could teach people to do that, but only in person. I'm learning the guitar. This essay was compelling, and here I am to, as my Dad always directed, "make myself useful."



Bottom line at the top: I'm in.

A request: Who can recommend a CHEAP ISP for hosting a public MediaWiki without advertising? (That eliminates the freebies, but also avoids drive-by downloads.) I want to be able to provide both unencrypted and encrypted (SSH) access. I have been planning something like this for about a year. It will involve Esperanto for reasons I will go into later.

What can I contribute? (1) Aviation (Placed here first in honor of Bill. Private pilot, aircraft, single-engine land; instrument airplane; commercial. I can't imagine two engine failures in 300 hours. I have logged 909.7 hours, last entry 9 May 1992; and have had only two remotely close calls -- one in a "great northeast snowstorm" and the other with gear that didn't want to go down). (2) Physics, (3) Mathematics, (4) Radio (ham and commercial), (5) programming (Python preferred), (6) Linux (though I must run most of my specialized software in Windows), (007) How to teach (PhD Princeton, Astrophysical Sciences).

I am retired, and very anti-intellectual. (I have seen more than enough of them!) My daughter just graduated from high school, and is hanging fire on a college acceptance. My son is a Freshman in high school and was just diagnosed with ADD. I have read up on the affliction and concluded that the symptoms fit me at least as well as him. Therefore, (8) how to deal with adult ADD. I have also been mugged (had a gun pointed at me and my wallet demanded and given) therefore, (9) personal protection and (10) what to expect, and what not to expect, from the police.

Enough for now. The "prisoner's dilemma" illustration and the idea of facilitating communication among the "remnant" are excellent. It appears to me that one of the most difficult problems will be making diverse and rapidly-expanding materials accessible to those who don't know where to look. I have been using WikiMedia for about 3 years as my life journal and notebook, and find its structural and search facilities invaluable.

docduke



I am a firm believer in hope. I'm a crone and damned proud of it. I've lived a 'few' years, have seen many changes. My life experiences are many, but what I've learned is there is constant change happening at all times. I'm a avid believer in knowing the self. In fact, I work with assisting others to do just that. I must admit, it took me awhile to even begin the task of inner travel, but the process is so worth it. What I love most is that it never ends as I keep evolving! What a kick that is. I practice, and I teach energy therapies. This form of therapy is so gentle and exciting at the same time. It's a personal connection with the universe and a very personal journey of healing from within. My own experience of self and connection has deepened and grown. I am passionate about this kind of healing therapy, there is nothing like it that I have experienced.

Thanks for this opportunity to share experience, community and hope. If anyone is interested in gentle healing and connection I will be pleased to share that with them. I know how much it has opened my world to self, and in that process, to others.



While I'm familiar with the Prisoner's Dilemma I was intrigued with the idea of Remnants. I think we all know they exist but we are fuzzy on how they become what they are. Thanks Bill for a great explanation.

Most of my background is in IT including programming and development process consulting. Most of my experience related to this seems to be in airline travel and hotel stays... I've also dabbled in medical device R&D, installed alarm systems (while in college learning electronics) and 4 years of military service. Probably what I can teach best is how NOT to raise teenagers. At least that's what they tell me.

Dick Stafford - My dad was also a retired USAF veteran that spent thousands of hours in RC-135's and 130's.



Outstanding....

Received the link from my GMIL (Hat-Tip to you, Grandma!), and I am sitting here slack-jawed in front of this "screen o' golden-opportunity".

Engineer (materials, w/ mechanical / CAD / FEA experience), probably not much use on the up-front work, but I should be able to chip in somewhere along the line. (Especially when we get started on that starship :)

Been feeling somewhat lost lately (what with the state of the planet), and the OP's article REALLY struck a couple of notes somewhere down in there...

Looking forward to this like a steaming plate of biscuits and gray, folks!



I'm not sure I understand. I recall reading Doug Hofsteadter's original PD articles in Scientific American, and even attending one of his lectures at the U. of OR in the 1970s. I've since attended Jim Buchanan's lectures on Public Choice at GMU delivered with Viktor Vanberg (a student of Hayek's, and currently the Hayek Chair at the U. of Frieberg).

But the truth is that I don't get it. There isn't the slightest chance that something like this will do very much, not because it's not a good idea, but because it'll just invite too much noise. You have no way of distinguishing between the noise and what's valuable. The normal way it's done is that people get in line to *pay* for what's valuable, and they separate the dross from the real. As far as I know, there isn't another way to do it, given this much dross.

Seriously, what the deuce are you talking about? Anyway, check out Vanberg. He's a nice fellow, if he's still alive...



Demosophist, you're right that traditionally people have had to pay money for good stuff. But the way the Internet works, we can pay in kind, by contributing something that others will want to see.

Not just the intellectual stuff that docduke is sick of (I think his problem is he's seen too much of the folks who give 'intellectual' a bad name), but practical knowledge that enhances people's lives.

And then there's Karaoke Night over at Chase's.



Very interesting concept. I am looking forward to reading more. I am a front line airline employee: a hard worker, self starter and forward thinker, in the San Francisco area.



Howdy. I am Chris and am intrigued by this concept and would love to take part.

I am 47 and know a good bit about survival and fieldcraft, mechanics, history, and cooking. I have over 20 years experience in the Space Shutle Program as an Engineering Analyst. My job entails seeing the big picture/forest insted of trees in all engineering or design changes to any shuttle element. I love talking about my job and have given several informational seminars on manned space flight, so I suppose I can teach.



Monster(the)
LOL! Dude you rawk!

ipw533, Regal, Deano(humor is the coin of the realm),IronDave (sorry about the Oklahoma thing),docduke (a frakin' astrophysicallist!),
kclaf(a crone with hope, darlin' where have you been all my life?),Jimbo, Va_Hillbilly...

Welcome!

Demosophist.
Um, hi.



WayneB

Sorry I cannot help you with the book you are looking for.

Pierre



Michael, here.

I'm in the entertainment industry in LA-la land and often feel like I'm the only sane person in this town. Finding out this was BW's base of operations made me feel a little better. This latest essay makes me feel better still.

I'm a former Marine but, unless you want to learn about embarkation, I don't have much to offer on that front. Oh yeah... and pushups.

As to what I can offer, well, I've picked up a few things in my 30+ years. Mostly things that have to do with how to treat the ones you love. Over the last 4 years, I've learned a lot about raising a child with autism. Still learning.

I'm here to lend support however I can and to learn whatever I can. Bill's words have always resonated with me and I'm just glad to be on board.

Best,
MZ



I am in awe. This is exactly what I have been searching/longing for. People with integrity, thoughtful people, hopeful loving people. I feel such despair some days for our society and our world. I try so hard to make the little bit that I can touch better every day...is it really possible that I can touch more than just a little bit? Yes, I so much want to be a part of what you are building here.

I am in Minnesota, I have worked in various aspects of retail for most of life, the sales support end being my strong suit. I am an office manager, which requires extreme attention to detail, ability to multi-task, being everything to everyone, strong leadership skills and a pragmatic approach to just about everything. It helps quite a bit that I am quick witted and can find the humor in just about anything. Other than that...hmmm, let's see...I'm a great "down home" cook, I grow my own vegetables and can them, I do some crafts, I grow a yard full of beautiful flowers and love to landscape, I write some poetry, and I am a voracious reader. If there is anything of use to you in this, then let me know.



D4/Stan, Monster (The), Chase, UnqM, Muscledaddy, and ALL !!!

Just finished catching up on all the intro posts... Some group we're collecting here!!! The collective skills are, well... something to behold...

I'm on my way over to Chase's, for a breather and brew with lunch. Got the grill fired up yet? Think I'll have a dog with kraut and (spicy) mustard, and a pile o'FRESH fries... Can someone get that started for me?

Oh, yeah, and a good, rich, black n' tan might just hit the spot with that.

Think I'll check out the construction site on the way...



I just went back and reread both Parts. I would suggest anyone who has only read Parts 1 and 2 once, go back and read them again. I found the second read to be humbling and even more thought provoking. To add to my earlier introduction, my first name is Rich, and I am a husband and father of 3. I have a love for history and science. I am a jack of all trades. Business school grad, hazmat and construction experience, technical recruiting, environmental scientist, and real estate broker. I am always looking for new things to learn, and can't seem to settle on any one career path. I am a dreamer, but a pragmatist. I dwell on roads not taken. Still waiting for my clarity of purpose. Maybe the fine folks here at Ejectia will help to guide me to it.



Hi, LeeAnn,
Sorry I yelled at you yesterday because my bag was overweight and I was so incensed about TWO! FRAKIN'! DOLLARS!
Kabar77,
The Space Shuttle! No way!
Houstonian myself.
I'm a transplant.
I was born and raised in Amarillo, AKA, The Sandblaster of America.
MK,
Hi, I'm daddyquatro.
I was blessed with four healthy kids. The worst I ever had to deal with was asthma.

Good job, MK.

Welcome!

D4/Stan



My name is Jacob, and I wouldn't be welcome in Ejectia because I'm not good at anything. I know a little about pipe tobacco and a little about data entry, and I'm not even an expert in either of those fields - but that's all I really have in this world.

My real expertise, I think, is in the field of slacking off, wasting time, and general procrastination.



BW-

I am an engineering student working in the commercial diving business. My passion is diving; the technology and techniques that go into recreational, technical and commercial fields. This idea of real community excites the hell out of me. The time is right to sow these crucial seeds.



Jacob C.
My kind of guy!

I excel at slacking off. How do you think I post here all day long?

Pipe tobacco knowledge, I could use. Because at $4+ a pack the cigs are getting old.



docduke: if you're looking for information on handling adult ADD/ADHD, you might want to look up the blog of my friend Doug Cootey, who deals with these problems and also neurological disabilities.

http://thesplinteredmind.blogspot.com/

Best to you.



Quick comment very much enjoying reading the thoughts that BW and everyone's been bringing to this large round table. For now, I'll just say that my skill is making and teaching people to laugh. One of those skills that always sounds silly but is suprisingly powerful.



This is my first comment on a blog. Ever. I have read Silent America (the first edition, alas, with the second almost here!) and found the optimism that you infuse into your words incredible. I am thirty years old and have only recently begun paying attention to things political. I am thirty years old and the more I read the more scared I become. It is a fear that affects everything I do. It is the fear of bringing children into a world as it exists today where no one can see the gigantic tumor on their nose until it starts invading their face and eyes (and even then probably thinking that someone just turned the lights out and wait patiently for someone else to turn them back on). It is a scary place and it seems that often times we haven't even got it together enough to remember bringing that pesky handbasket on our trip to hell. But damn if this world isn't one of the most beautiful places I know. How I can almost vibrate apart with joy looking out at a cloudy day while driving to work. It is a joy to be alive and yet it scares the hell out of me. I wanted to say that there are a lot of things that need fixing out there and your words really make me want to do more than I am to help out. I've never designed or built a building but I do know how to hammer a nail.



I'm In Bill!!!!

Ejectia sounds much like the fictional village that Ayn Rand described in her novel Atlas Shrugged. In it, hidden away in the Rocky Mountains, her "Remnant", the *Producers*, build a society based on the un-common values that you speak about and live in like-minded seclusion from the culturally suicidal masses, which she calls the "Looters"

It's a book that every young adult should read and one worth re-visiting if one is considering embarking on a journey to a new Virtual City State.

Here's to building that bridge.

Let's Begin!



Hi... i'm Strings (Bill to most). I'm in Manitowoc WI, and have several non-productive skills I can teach: music (guitar, harp, mandolin, bouzouki), jewelry making, figurine painting. Not sure how much help I can be, but certainly count me in!



Hey all!

My name is Johnny, and I am already a teacher, teaching Audio Recording and Live Sound Engineering. I also know a bit about history, the operation of flint-locks (I re-enact battles from the war of 1812), Canadian Politics (surprisingly interesting), and Reformation Christianity.

I was reminded of another who used that Bible verse as inspiration, his name is Brother Andrew, and he was a Dutch pastor who smuggled Bibles into the Soviet Union and it's satellites, to strengthen the remnant of the church hanging on under Communist persecution. His book God's Smuggler is deeply interesting. And now that remnant is forming the basis for society in many of the countries where they were once persecuted.



Fascinating reading, and I hope I am part of the Remnant when/if the time comes. Strangely, your essay reminded me of a TV news story I saw a few years ago about a guy who lived in an apartment -- apartment ablaze, firemen everywhere, and no one from the fire dept. would allow the guy to go back into his apartment to save his dog from being burned alive.

Somehow the guy snuck around them, blasted into his second story apartment, grabbed his dog, flung open the sliding glass door to the deck, dropped the dog over the railing to safety, and then jumped himself. Dog and owner were fine, yet the firemen and/or police tried to cite or jail the guy for going back to save his dog. Fortunately the whole thing was taped by the local news, so there was plenty of community outcry -- enough to get him off the hook.

Anyway, I had just gotten my first dog -- a rescue from a shelter -- when I saw that story. I decided right then that there wasn't anyone or anything that could keep me from doing the same for my dog.

Enough about that -- I know a little bit about nearly everything, and can engage in a spirited intellectual discussion with the best. I'm like Cliff Clavin without the uniform. (Plus I'm actually smart.) I'm a civil litigator, know a fair amount about finance, have plenty of other general education, and can drink like the wind. I'm from Texas, so I can shoot; I live in California, so I don't get to do so as often as I would like. And I probably have more pocketknives, camping gadgets and flashlights than the rest of the people on my block combined.

And I'm in.



Hi, my name is Steve. I'm in. My profession is Information Technology Architecture, so I'd like to help with the system design. I am a student pilot with 25 hours in my logbook, 5 hours of that solo. I am in excellent health thanks to this guy. (I lost 60 pounds in 2001 and have kept it off since then.)

My only addition to the idea is that perhaps it shouldn't be free. In the Atlas Shrugged version of Ejectica, everyone had to provide value to the community. If you couldn't pay with money, you paid with sweat. No free ride; everyone has to contribute. So I think we should give some thought to the "currency" that should be used in this new community.

Thanks for a great essay.



"Dear Douglas,
Here is your horoscope
for Tuesday, May 22:

The stars say it's time to go large or go home. So what are you waiting for? Those plans of yours need implementing, and pronto. Start with small steps and set reasonable goals. You'll be there before you know it.-- Astrology.com: Daily Horoscope.

Plans? I had plans?

I have a bad memory, did i mention anything to anybody here about a plan within the last few years?
Somebody throw me a bone, Please.

Let's see here, i heard about Iraq the Model from my Wife who heard about it on NPR...i typed in some crazy sh!t...i drifted in to Bill's world and jumped into the sea of comments...sank like a rock...am i missing something here?

OH YEAH!
I AM!
but what could it be?



BOTH OUTSTANDING AND ASTONISHING!

I'M AUSTRALIAN, 64, COMMERCIAL PILOT AND ENGINEER, LIVED IN VIETNAM SINCE 1993

THE PRISONER'S DILEMMA IS WELL KNOWN - DIDN'T KNOW THE RESULTS OF THE ITERATION FUNCTION - SURPRISING ANYHOW

THE REMNANT INFORMATION WAS OF REALLY SERIOUS INTEREST, AND THE VIRTUAL STATE SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD START

THE VIRTUES, AS DISCUSSED, ARE THE CORE OF A WORTHWHILE SOCIETY. I TRY AND FAIL TO LIVE THEM EVERY DAY - IT'LL BE NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SHARE WITH

VERY INTERESTED IN THE 'BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI' OBSERVATION. I'M RIGHT THERE, HAVING DESIGNED A PLASTIC ROTARY AVIATION POWERPLANT IN MY MIND AND ON AUTOCAD. BEEN AT IT FOR ABOUT 7 YEARS NOW

I'LL DIP MY TOE IN THE FORUM AS AND WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING OF INTEREST TO ADD OR TO COMMENT ABOUT

IT'S A STRANGE THING HOW THE NET THROWS UP CONTACTS THAT YOU SUBLIMINALLY NEED BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO LOCATE

GREATEST DEVICE EVER KNOWN TO MAN

CHEERS FOR NOW

PETER



I read the essay yesterday, and it reflected much of what I have learned of the world, only crafted much better than I could have. This is a project that will fly. I consider freerepublic my home on the net, but that could change.

I am a meteorologist and I have taught it at the introductory level many years ago. I am an active concealed carry weapons instructor for the Arizona permit system and a former military officer. I dabble in land speculation in remote properties in Arizona, and am approaching retirement from the Department of Defense, working for the U.S. Army as a Meteorologist.



LabRat,

not only Discworld, but Xanth as well. Ringworld. Many other worlds.

yet another pete



Pierre - Don't worry, I wasn't looking to get the books, I was just trying to find the quotes. I have the books somewhere, just can't find them.



WayneB: JACKPOT!!! What a story...

GUEST OF HONOR SPEECH AT THE XIXth WORLD
SCIENCE FICTION CONVENTION
SEATTLE, 1961


Here is how a man dies and here is how a man lives! This is Robert Heinlein speech.


Many of the sf writers today seem to have acquired a permanent nervous breakdown during and after World War II. Some of the things that science fiction long predicted have come to pass--and now they're scared silly.

I don't understand it.

Look, friends, the only possible way to enjoy life is not to be afraid to die. A zest for living requires a willingness to die; you cannot have the first without the second. The 60's and 70's and 80's and 90's can be loaded with the zest for living, high excitement, and gutsy adventure for any truly human person.

"Truly human"? I mean you descendants of cavemen who outlasted the saber-tooth, you who sprang from the loins of the Vikings, you whose ancestors fought the Crusades and were numbered the Golden Horde. Death is the lot of all of us and the only way the human race has ever conquered death is by treating it with contempt. By living every golden minute as if one had all eternity--

About fifty years ago when I was a small child a thing happened in my home town which made a permanent impression on me. My family lived in Kansas City then; there is a large park in the south of town, Swope Park. Almost every Sunday in good weather we would ride the street car out there and enjoy the park. Through the park runs--or did run, then--a railroad track, the Katy line. There were a half a dozen places where one could cross the track on foot.

A man and his wife were walking in Swope Park one Sunday, started across those tracks, and she stepped on a switching juncture, got her foot caught in it--stuck tight.

Nothing to panic about, there were no trains in sight and that line carried only a couple of trains a day.

But she found that she could not pull it out even with her husband's help--and there was no one else around.

They both worked away at it for several minutes when a stranger came along, a man, and now all three of them strained and pulled.

No luck--and now they heard a train coming.

Too late to flag it down--too late to do anything--save continue trying to get her foot out of there.

Of course both the husband--and the stranger who had happened along--could have saved themselves easily.

But they didn't. Neither gave up, both men kept trying and were still trying as the train hit them.

The wife and the stranger were killed at once; the husband lasted just long enough to tell what happened and died before he could be moved.

The woman had no choice. The husband had a choice but acted as a husband should.

But what of the stranger?

No one would have blamed him if he had jumped clear at the last moment at which he could have saved himself. After all, in sober fact, the woman could not be saved--it was too late. She was not his wife, not his responsibility--she was a total stranger; we don't know that he ever learned her name.

But he didn't jump back. He was leaning over, pulling at this stranger's leg with all his strength when the locomotive hit him. He used the last golden moments of his life, the last efforts his muscles would ever make, still trying to save her.

I don't know anything about him. I didn't see it happen and when the crowd gathered--amazing how fast a crowd can gather even in a lonely spot once an accident happens. My parents got me quickly away from there to keep me from seeing the mangled bodies. So all I really know about it is what I can recall from hearing my father read aloud the account in the Kansas City Star.

I don't even know the stranger's name. The newspaper described him as about twenty-eight, I think it was, and a "laborer." Probably means "hobo" as he was walking along the tracks. It is possible that this married couple who died with him would never, under other circumstances, have met him formally, might not have been willing to sit down and eat with him.

I don�t know. I'll never know anything about him--except how he chose to spend the last five minutes of his short life . . . and how he elected to die.

But that is really quite a lot and I've thought about it many times since. Why did he do what he did? What did he think about in those last few rushing minutes when the train bore down on them? Or did he think about anything save the great effort he was making? Was he afraid? If he was, what inner resources did he draw on to offset that fear with ultimate courage?

We can�t know. All we know is that, with no flags flying, no bands playing, no time to prepare his soul for the ordeal--he did it.

And the only conclusion I have ever been able to reach is this: This is how a man lives. And this is how a man dies.

His caveman ancestors have good reason to feel proud of him--and this is why the caveman�s children are reaching out to the stars--and will reach the stars.

Would it have made a difference if some other man--or woman--had happened along in place of this nameless stranger? Did inexorable fate bring this hero to his appointed triumph? Or was it coincidence so wild that an author would be ashamed to use it that a man with the necessary courage happened to be walking along that railroad track?

I don�t think any of these things are true. I suggest that it really didn�t matter much in the outcome which human being happened along. I have great respect for the race of which I now have the honor to be a member--that any stranger with the same gutsy abandon would have done the same thing. You here in this room. Anybody--

This is not a tale about how a man happened to die in Swope Park on a Sunday afternoon back when Taft was president. This is a story for any year about how a man . . . lives.



G'morning...
I'm Kv. A career maintenance tech, and a water purification specialist; as somebody else put it, I know a lot about a few things, and a little about a lot of things. I can repair a machine, wire a house, or take stone and silver and make things that make people smile. Nice to know there's so many out here with me; but we're not really "out there" after all, eh?
-Kv



Pierre, Thank You! I'll put that somewhere that I can find it again.



Here via John Donovan of Castle Arghhhh! and the Instapundint...

I am just floored by this essay. It hit so many of my worries and frustrations with BOTH ends of the political spectrum. Sometimes the mommy in me wants to just SWAT them and say "Play nice! Take your turn! Don't call each other names! and NO throwing dirt!"

Am a managerial accountant and have lots of personal finance resources to share. Hobbies include knitting, needlework and working on restoring/renovating a Craftsman era house.

Mother of a US Marine, Widow of a LEO - peer facilitator possibilites for both of those.

In my oppinion, communities of choice instead of circumstance are one of the best things the internet offers us.



IronDave

You Dad told you that too, huh?

So did mine but he tacked on "...as well as ornamental."

Don



Amazing. I'm only 18, and I'm actually sitting in my last day of high school before exams, with graduation a week away. And what I've read on the internet has taught me so much more about The Real World that it's astounding. And it's the basics of this virtual city-state that have taught me: essayists like yourself, KdT, den Beste, and the rest.

Perhaps it's the sense of granduer and the feeling of the world being open to opportunity that is inherent in teenage, but I find such an idea as this city exciting. To create such a community where I can thrive during my ensuing 4 years in college, that bastion of liberalism, would be ... unspeakable.

I know some programming and web editing, and I would be proud to do whatever I can to help this. Feel free to contact me at the attached email.

-Ben Berry



My name is Patty. Like several others on here, this is my first time to post on a blog, but I have also been avidly reading blogs since they began appearing. Yours is the first I have ever wanted to join.
What can I contribute? At this time in my life, I can say with reasonable confidence that I have made a successful marriage after 39 years. And I have raised four children who have turned into very successful adults. So I guess I can pass on advice on how I did it.



Bill, I'm a career Marine Officer, a Colonel and an Infantry leader. I've lived or worked in 42 countries. I'm a combat veteren. I can fly a plane, pilot small boats, teach SCUBA, fitness, combat skills, and a number of other things. I can jump out of airplanes. I'm comfortable on all terrain.

I've always felt that there were a core (or corps) of individuals who believed--who did what was right because it was right. Lived as men and citizens. Believed in things bigger than they were. I didn't think I was alone, but I thought I might be almost alone in seeing it.

In isn't the right word.



45. Artist. Art historian (Ph.D Oxford). Specialty: Italian Renaissance art and architecture, Leonardo, Michelangelo and the boys.
Dissertation topic: Use of geometry in design.
Commercial: motion graphics, art direction, 3d (Maya).
Count me in.



Galt's Gulch, anyone?
Hi Bill, and hi there Col. Jameson!
Another grunt here...
I am an decent field medic who can teach quite a bit on first aid and personal protection...I am also pretty well informed on Jihadist ideaology, etc.



Bill -

Good to see that you have actually understood the Prisoner's dilemma and why it is so critical for the functioning of any modern society.

I'm an American expat, in Germany, married to an Austrian with two teenage daughters.

I'm senior economist with a private research company. You need me: utopias always fail when there's no economist looking at the business plan, usually because when he asked where the business plan was, he was thrown out of the utopia.

We have the opportunity to make this world a paradise. To paraphrase Sartre, Hell is other people. But not the way that he meant it: rather the way that you've started to develop here.

What else can I do?

I can regulate mechanical watches (I moderate a vintage watch forum), build darkrooms that stay dark in the middle of the day, organize so that things actually get done and work, figure out how to increase productivity so that you can either get more money or can do less for the same amount of money; I once made a living as a photographer, and I can forecast economic development at the detailed industry level (i.e. where the value comes from, not how it is spent: take a moment to realize what that means and you can see why you need me... :-))

If you want someone to see the forest despite the trees...



Brad asked: Galt's Gulch, anyone?

Unless and until the psychosis of religion AND the obscene notion of "The Social Contract" can be challenged and discarded for the trash they are, it won't be close to a Galt's Gulch.




Barely slept a wink and still big fuzzy. Yikes there's a lot of new info to absorb already. I'll just be in a quiet corner catching up on my reading.



Hi there. high school teacher here, long-time reader, first-time commenter.

Bill, you are brilliant. I will sign up and provide whatever meager assistance I may be able to give.



Hi folks. I'm Bob and I'm an... oh ..wait ...wrong meeting.

Let's see...raised on a farm as a kid. Hunted all my life with about any weapon. System and network admin by trade. 30 years data and telecommunications. Small business owner. Built houses, wired and hung a lot of sheetrock. High school hockey coach. Father.

Like a lot here I'm a Jack of all trades and master of none.



I'm in.

I agree with the other posters--this was one of the clearest expressions of why we believe what we believe that I've read.

I know and can teach literature, theatre, teacher preparation, ed theory, and school reform. Not exactly level 1 survival skills, but, you know...one of the mice has to collect the colors for wintertime...if you'll excuse an obscure kid lit reference.



I can teach lots of odd things - cooking, sewing, traditional archery, foraging for wild edibles &/ or urban goodies, basic carpentry, emergency medicine for both urban and wilderness situations. Generally speaking, I tend to view myself as a swiss army knife. Not fancy, kinda funny looking, but darn useful to have about in a pinch or even to open a bottle of wine. :) My daughter enjoys learning this stuff from me, so I've had some practice teaching it, and her friends think I'm "strict but cool!" (I overheard that when they were out playing together, and I was just giddy all afternoon.)

Fun to be Remnant? No. Utterly satisfying on a profound level? Absolutely.



Hi, I'm Misha (yes, it's a nickname, but it happens to be my real life nickname too. Long story).

I'm a jack of all trades, master of none, but what I'm really good at is communicating, gathering information and spending entirely too much time thinking about it, trying to find out how to make sense of it all and use it for something.

Sometimes I even get that nice, fuzzy feeling that I've been successful at it.



Misha, my liege,

You write a mean rant, too.

Another thought for all you smart computer types out there. Can we develop a profile (consisting of two parts) that each "citizen" of Ejectia would complete? One part would be kept strictly private, and only used to verify the reality of someone's identity. The second part would consist of things (VOLUNTARILY listed) like (i) what are my interests, (ii) what can I teach/help with, (iii) what do I want to learn, (iv) what do I do/talk about for fun, and (v) ONLY if people wanted to list such information, real world contact information to facilitate Ejectians getting together in the real world.

I'm sure building such a database isn't easy, but it sure would be nice to be able to search for other Ejectians who are knowledgeable about, or just interested in learning about, oh, say, single malt Scotch (in case y'all haven't noticed, I am somewhat of a fanatic on this subject) - either to discuss same online (and learn about new nectars I haven't sampled, places to obtain same, etc.), or to actually get together and have a wee dram. Seems to me that some tool of this sort will be a NECESSARY part of Ejectia.



Project Manager running data networking projects for the oldest 3-letter Telecom company in the U.S.A. Apple Mac guy. Direct sales & marketing. Avid reader, lazy writer. Hobbyist video producer. Caretaker for three wonderful dogs. Personal development addict. Aikido black belt.



Men of Remnant character have been drawn to my Mason's fraternity for ages. I have sent this around to my buddies to further define the inspiration we have grown to love. You have come through a backdoor epiphany that will continue to drive the huge interest now shown by the neXt generations joining up.



Brad asked: Galt's Gulch, anyone?

Unless and until the psychosis of religion AND the obscene notion of "The Social Contract" can be challenged and discarded for the trash they are,...

Lionell, I'm afraid I will have to disagree with you here. Religion has been proven to be enormously helpful to innumerable people over the centuries, helping them deal with tragedies without losing their minds, giving them direction when circumstances are at their worst, and other things. For myself, I always get an attack of the hives when I try to listen to religious leaders in modern times, because they always seem to go off into areas that get my dander up, but for other people, religion serves as an anchor, a rudder, or even a sail, depending on what is needed.

Regarding the social contract, it seems to me that that's exactly what Bill has postulated for Ejectia. A system designed to allow for the greatest free exchange of iformation, ideas, and companionship with the least friction between members. If the rules of "Be Nice. Be Forgiving, but Retaliate when called for", are not a social contract, what are they?

In fact, if you can't have trust that, in general, other people are self-governed by a "social contract", is there any way you could trust anyone else at all?



Hi, Joated here (stands for Jack Of All Trades EDucation). Masters in Environmental Science. Taught, and can still teach, virtually any middle school or high school science course.(Some 20 years behind the lab bench.) Also taught the use of computers (word processing, spreadsheet, database, etc.) to middle school students for another dozen years.

Helped to construct my current home with brute strength (ha!), a good ruler, battery charged drill and a helpful contractor.

Hunt, fish, camp and canoe. Butcher what I can kill and can cook it pretty well. (Although the missus does a far better job at the stove than I.) Can read a map (road or topo), use a compass or GPS.

Getting more angry at the cheaters in our world every day.

Count me in Mr. Whittle.



Need time to digest before commenting further, but absolutely no question ... I'm in. You had me on "You are not alone".



John H: I am a member of a church as well, and that is, and can not be everything. Religion is only a part of the man; community, labor, state and family are interrelated but different than the church. Lost are the days when the churches housed local communities at a 1 to 1 basis. It is better for it, I think, because the illness of our churches has become evident as the social apparatus that kept them strong is now gone. I understand that may be a controversial position. I can back it up, but not right now... it would take a bit of research. Suffice it to say you may freely disagree.

Anyway, part of what we are doing here is trying to rebuild the lost community in American life via the internet. Anthropologically, Education is part of the sphere of, I believe, kinship. So... there you go. Sharp mind, Bill & co!



WayneB wrote disagreeing with my stand on religion and the social contract in reference to Ejecta becoming a Galt's Gulch.

Remember? John Galt was the one who pledged: "I swear by my life and my love of it to never live for another nor ask another to live for me." ALL religions AND the social contract have as their fundamental premise that one MUST live for another. Hence BOTH must be discarded for this to be a virtual Galt's Gulch.

I would point out that religion and the commitment to the so called social contract in which all are to live for all has caused more death and destruction than any other set of ideas generated by man.

There is no limit to the distortion, evasion, deception, and denial that man can do. See the middle east and our lovely politicians of the left, middle and right for instructive details.



Name: Guipo
Skills: I know a good amount about chevy 6.5L Diesel engines, Can fix most computer problems with a wrinkle of my nose. I know how to run a sound board, edit video, and a other geeky things. I love Jesus, and he loves me.



Hey all, name?s David.

What can I do?

I can teach you how to field strip and reassemble the M16 family of rifles - even with your eyes closed, Bore sight the main gun of a M60 series MBT, Emplace an anti-personnel mine, Clear a mine field, Rappel down a mountain, Encrypt a PRC77, Recon unknown terrain. I can enter a burning building and put out a fire, climb a 100 foot ladder, search for victims and provide medical care. I?ve been involved in healthcare management, and managed the life-cycle of software. I?ve built worlds from scratch and researched obscure facts on Asian culture. I?m a Historian by training, a Soldier by birth, a Firefighter by choice and a student of Emergency Management by necessity.

Still a Sheep Dog and leading young minds as an Assistant Scoutmaster, I?m also a desk jockey and former door kicker looking for a way to get into theatre, but realizing that what I do here is just as important.

I?m in - and I?m spreading the word.



Lionell, I only included Brad's portion to give context. I was replying to your assertion that religion is a psychosis and that the "Social Contract" was an obscene notion. I know nothing about Galt's Gulch, as I have never read anything about it.

I will agree that many horrible things have been done in the name of religion. And that some perversions of the concept of a "Social Contract" can produce as much evil as anything else in the world.

Where I don't agree is that they are inherently evil or psychotic. With some notable exceptions, religious evils have been exacted by perversions of the tenets of the religion at hand. We could do the same with the US Constitution by misinterpreting certain portions of the document all out of proportion to their intent. For instance, the "promote the general welfare" statement in the Preamble. WE know that it doesn't mean the government should provide everyone with all their needs, but it COULD be perverted that way, and I have even seen some try to do just that.

Also, a "social contract in which all are to live for all" is not what I would consider a Social Contract. The quote above is communism, pure and simple, and I doubt anyone who is agreeing with Bill and the commenters here would propose that we turn to communism. What I think of when I hear "Social Contract", is essentially equivalent to Manners, plus perhaps a bit of Good Samaritanism, in the sense of being willing to help someone who is in trouble through no fault of their own. If someone can point me to a source which gives a solid definition of a Social Contract, especially if it differs from my understanding, please do.



Lionell K. Griffith and wayneB

I am deeply committed to my faith in God. But I make it a point not to force my viewpoint on others.

That is a two way street...lately one of the most disconcerting problems I have found in the REALWORLD tm are people who feel driven to ridicule my faith or to try and convince me that it is absurd.

I know well what Galt's Gulch is since for about 10 years I considered myself an objectivist. Part of Galts promise was not to inflict HIS views on others. Too many have foregotten that rule.

wayneb you make a terrific point when you point out that any group of people who agree to stand together do so on the basis of a contract to each other. That this doesn't fit into Galts gulch is more of a strike against the idealism of Galts gulch than anything else.



Lionell,

When you use the word "social contract" I do not think you are necessarily thinking of the same concept the rest of us are. I've never read Galt's Gulch (or whatever novel in which it appears), so I am probably lacking context here. For reference, when I hear "social contract", I'm thinking of the most basic version as articulated by Locke and Hobbes- the right of you to swing your fist stops at my face.

You might as well substitute the word "human nature" for "religion" or even collective ideology. Religion (and what we might call community spirit rather than collectivism) has inspired just as much of the best in humanity as the worst.

As long as we're working with humans, we're going to see those kinds of problems. Better to build for as much self-correction as we can- and tolerate the inevitable imperfections- than try to set up a new sterile ideology that, being wielded by humans, will be just as inevitably doomed.



Lionell, I would have to disagree. Firstly you are going to alienate most of said remnant who are either religious or respecters of religious tradition.



My name is Dave and I have served for almost 17 years. I may not make it to your new land, but I will stand watch at the walls.

I can teach analysis and language (I do right now) and I hope that this remnant shall not be rent asunder.

"We should not mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived." - George S. Patton



Lionell:

I would point out that religion and the commitment to the so called social contract in which all are to live for all has caused more death and destruction than any other set of ideas generated by man.

I would strongly agree with the latter part of your statement, and just as strongly disagree with the first.

You are, of course, welcome to your opinion, and I am certain you can cite plenty of real-world examples to justify how you came by it. However, I do not see that BW was seeking to create in Ejectia a real-life form of "Galt's Gulch," for at least two reasons:

1) As I understand it (and feel free to correct me, Bill, if I'm putting words in your mouth), Bill does not seek to create a group with a "bunker mentality," deliberately removing itself from the world, but something more like Reagan's "shining city on a hill" to which people would be drawn, and from whose institutions they would learn various truths. If Galt's Gulch, as described elsewhere here, was merely a way for the "producers" to remove themselves from the "looters," how is that notably different in execution than the monastery, whose members voluntarily remove themselves from the ways of the world? I don't think that was what Ejectia was intended to be.

2) You may find religious people disagreeable, but they are all around you here. Quite a few people who read and enjoy Bill's writing, myself included, are religious people who would like to help make Ejectia a reality. They are certainly not your enemies.

It might be well to iron this out now, before things get nasty. I propose that we show respect for each other by keeping religious discussions to a specific forum, rather than witnessing to each other or slamming all religions as deluded and warlike here in the comments section.



Hmm.

What can I bring to the table?

Well, I teach English as a second language by trade in Taiwan. That means I can start at zero and go from there to writing and U.S. lit., in general.

My specific strength used to be Chinese history but because I edit for other professionals part-time, I no longer make that claim.

I can say that in the years that I have edited articles for publication in the fields of Earth Sciences, Medicine, Economics, Computer Science, Electrical Engineering and the odd government publication, I have had just one paper returned for a second revision.

If you need help with writing, I am your 'ghost!'

I guess the next big thing for Bill to do is to make an electronic mart where we can all go shopping for skills.

Man. I can't wait.



Hi. My name is Joanna.

I'm a 23-year-old magazine journalism student desperately trying to get an internship so I can get my degree. This is my first visit to E!^3 in several years, and I would like to be a part of Ejectia!

I can teach English grammar, reading, touch typing, writing (journalistic and literary), reading comprehension, cooking a little music and a little Christian theology/Bible knowledge.

I've got much more to learn than I do to teach at this point, but I'm up for anything. I respect everyone's right to an opinion; I expect others to extend the same courtesy. I look forward to partcipating in this community.



I feel like a new member of AA. My name is Steve and I'm a reporter. I've had many jobs in my life, some menial and some not so menial. I've scrubbed toilets and I've had dinner with a U.S. Senator discussing issues of the day.

I'm going to read this several times and reflect on it. There are so many possibilities that I want to take time to savor them.



Hello all.

I came upon this essay via Glenn Reynolds site, so I guess I might be identified as a tiny pebble in the insta-lanche.
Bill's essay moved me to do something which, as an inveterate lurker, I never do...speak up and introduce myself.

Not much of a joiner. Skeptical yankee. I have a lot of experience at the Alone part. Fortunately a wonderful woman was foolish enough to marry me 23 years ago and have my children. Steered me clear of an ugly and violent path and back towards the great "normal".
I spend most of my time these days building high end custom furniture , and keeping my interest in fine art alive, while struggling along with my wife to put two daughters through college.
Not sure what I might have to offer to an online community like this, but I enjoy sharing my woodworking experience , and know a thing or two about how troubled and angry young men can survive long enough to actually come to their senses and make themselves useful.

Wish you all the best in this endeavor. Nice to see common sense sprouting up again in the cultural landscape.



Brilliant. An antidote to the truthers and appeasers of the world. Count me in.



Too many jobs to list. 70 years old and like Kim well armed ready to use them. Teaching people to enjoy and not fear firearms is important. I live just outside the rotten core of the Big Apple.
Count me in.

First post ever.



Very well said, Pirate King. Thank you.

(And continued welcome to everyone new here, Joanna, Walt, Michael... this place is continuing to draw people who sound awesome.)



Hi, my name is Morris. Thanks Misha, for directing me here.

I am a young attorney. I am skilled in drafting conracts, specifically as they relate to international film distribution. I can teach someone how to negotiate the legal terms of these contracts and generally can teach someone what I know about the entertainment industry.

Otherwise, I am a jack-of-many-trades.

I can teach someone how to make excellent rolls.

I can teach someone how to make the perfect (to my taste) steak seasoninig. In fact, I'll teach that right now. 3 parts garlic powder, 2 parts black pepper, 1 part salt, 1 part chili powder, 1 part sugar. Sprinkle seasoning liberally before and/or during grilling. See, I am already contributing to Ejectia!

Keep a nice patch of land in Ejectia! for my friends and I who call our group The Bias. We are like Ejectia! on a very small scale but we all know each other personally.



WaynB wrote: If someone can point me to a source which gives a solid definition of a Social Contract, especially if it differs from my understanding, please do.

OK. See Jean Jacques Rousseau on "The Social Contract".

In particular see section six in which Rousseau stated: "If then we discard from the social compact what is not of its essence, we shall find that it reduces itself to the following terms:

'Each of us puts his person and all his power in common under the supreme direction of the general will, and, in our corporate capacity, we receive each member as an indivisible part of the whole.'"

This means nothing less than all living for all.

The Social Contract is not a gentle "be nice, don't violate the rights of others, live and let live." Its pure Communism + Socialism + Fascism all rolled into one perverted sinkhole of totalitarian altruism. Individual rights cease to exist. The obscenities of the 20th century followed as if were a proof of a geometric theorem.




Hey Steve, I am also an attorney in Santa Monica. I work right near the Water Garden. Alas, I do not drink.



Lionell: Not certain as to how you connect religion with that?

That is certainly the idea of communism/fascism totalitarianism.

What we're referring to is Voluntary Interdependence, I think.

Religion is not a hindrance to this, nor is it always a help.

What precisely do you mean by religion?



It's a pleasure to "meet" you Steve Peden, I am also an attorney in Santa Monica. I work right near the Water Garden. Alas, I do not drink.



Wow. Just, Wow. I'm in if you need a signmaker, writer, or reader/editor/proofer. Not that you would!



I can't stop learning. I love to write. My current interests include art, both traditional and computer. Hope is a powerful thing indeed.

It seems like breaking the essay down into a short sumary, possibly even with a list of positive things to keep in mind every day (i.e. like the simple "be mindful of what you say" to remind one of a deeper Buddhist teaching) would be good. Even if all meaning can't be transmitted by the summary, it would be helpful for remembering the main ideas.



Hi, I'm The Gunslinger. I shoot guns. I'm a graphic designer, a writer, and a blogger. I can ride a motorcycle, play drums, make the perfect Irish Coffee, and tell you anything you need to know about cats. I'm very good at organizing things. I've been known to write a poem and paint a portrait, and I've dabbled in calligraphy, photography, magick and gardening. Occasionally, I even even engage in housework.

My idea of appreciating nature is a modern house with large picture windows and panoramic views.

I'm fond of fast cars. But bought a zippy little fuel efficient one instead. (I don't buy a word of AGore's "Global Warming" alarmism. I'm just frugal.)

While not a practicing Odinist, I do believe in their Nine Noble Virtues: Courage, truth, honor, fidelity, discipline, hospitality, self-reliance, industriousness, and perseverance. I consider them a blueprint for right living, and the foundation upon which any successful civilization must be based. (You will note that humility, obedience, and meekness are not among them.) And even though it sounds corny, I (try to) live by the code of my namesake: "Stand and Be True"

When I read about the "Remnant" tears literally came to my eyes. It was like coming home after a long, lonely exile in the wastelands.

I sometimes despair at the insanity, and I DO feel alone in my inability to convince those around me that we are engaging in cultural suicide. I hope that you are right, Bill. I desperately do.

Count me in!



Howdy, Mike here.

50 years old, married, blog a little, DJ a little Internet radio, ride a motorcycle, pack a .45, and have spent the last 18 years as an air traffic controller.

Know my way around a BBQ grill pretty well too.

Not sure how many of those skills are teachable online, but I'm game...count me in!

Great essay, Bill!



Thank you once again Bill Whittle for your insightful analysis and your unique way with words.

In the spirit of the virtual world we wish to create...

Ask not what Ejectia can do for you but what you can do for Ejectia



Two Shouts:

1) Greetings, your Rottieness - I was hoping you stop by eventually - we're going to need you - Welcome!

2) Hello Gunslinger!
Non-practicing Asatruar, myself...
Stand and Be True!

- MuscleDaddy



Well, Lionell, if nothing else, you have prompted me to go out and learn something today, and that's always a good thing.

Rousseau's interpretation of Social Contract is undoubtedly Socialist/Communist/Fascist in nature. Then again, I never read Rousseau because I had read OF him, and already knew he was a socialist. I also pointed out in my last comment that I don't think that sort of Social Contract would be tolerated here. Fortunately, we don't have to rely exclusively on Rousseau.

I am not going to try to truly sum up the content of this Wikipedia Article, but in part it states that there are multiple definitions of Social Contract held by different people. Some of them are much more individualistic than Rousseau's. I would thus suggest that we need to be careful about the Social Contract we choose, but ultimately, we all use one, even if it's limited to the most basic level of "You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone".



Hmm... that first line made me sound like an ass. Didn't mean to come off all smart-alecky like that, just meant that I wasn't completely convinced, because of what I read while I was researching.



The Pirate King wrote: I propose that we show respect for each other by keeping religious discussions to a specific forum, rather than witnessing to each other or slamming all religions as deluded and warlike here in the comments section.

If someone was holding that 2+2=3 on Tuesday or that Green Gremlins on Venus are causing global warming, should we allow that too? Must we respect the patently wrong and totally arbitrary? Must we be silent on such things? What is there to respect? I find nothing to respect. I find holding such ideas to be mentally damaging and very limiting to one's ability to be successful in this universe.

How is holding the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent being (aka God) as truth without evidence and in spite of evidence to the contrary (aka faith) any different? I find no difference.

You should also note that it was not I who brought up the topic of religion or the notion of Ejecta becoming a Galt's Gulch. I commented on the disjunction between the two notions. Strongly? Yes. Some people are offended? Yes.
So what?

You are welcome to your beliefs. I would no more would or could force you to be an atheist than I would allow you to force me to be religious. However, I would ask, if you can't tolerate and defend against opposition to your religious ideas, how secure are you in holding them?

I agree to the notion that discussion of religion as such should not appear in the general comments sections. This means both sides of the argument. If you are religious or not, simply state that fact and be done with it.

Stick to the positive and productive aspects of reason, reality, and logic by learning how to live better in THIS world rather than the fantasized next one.



If I understand correctly, then an essential characteristic of the remnant individual is that he is not concerned about winning per se, not about the ultimate victory of decency, but rather about maintining his personal decency [ital]for himself, for itself[/ital]. It is the quiet and desparate courage of the holdout, the last Texan at the Alamo, the infantryman who fights his hole to the end when all others have surrendered. The lone Japanese soldier fulfilling his oath still in 1985. It is Ionesco's Berenger proclaiming "I will not become a rhinoceros, even though I am the last man." It is the willingness to struggle and lose in anonymity. It is the stubbornness shown by a generation of Russian dissidents, and of Whittaker Chambers, who recorded that he felt he was signing on with the losing side when he broke with Communism.
It is not the action of the fanatic who seeks martyrdom, but of the quietly stubborn, who tries to avoid paying the price of martyrdom as best he can, but accepts it reluctantly when the remaining option is betraying himself.



That explains a lot, Wayne... I wouldn't touch Rousseau with a ten-meter cattle prod, but I enjoyed reading Hobbes and Locke's versions, which were not remotely socialist.

Gunslinger: the beauty of liking fast cars is that really well-designed engines are also very fuel-efficient. My father-in-law's Corvette gets excellent mileage. Isn't it beautiful? (It helps a lot that it's a manual. I am very cynical about the fact that no one ever seems to suggest "learn how to drive stick" as an energy economy measure.)

On a purely selfish level, I'm anticipating the recipes I'm going to get out of this place. Boid's steak seasoning is now saved to a file I've created just for that...



Hello, Mrs. M here. 43 years old and married to M 10 years (still haven't gotten him all the way trained yet). I also have an XD 9 that is my firearm of choice. My skills tend to run in the craft and housekeeping areas. I can teach crochet, painting and other crafty pursuits. I can offer up creative ways of dealing with dog and cat hair proliferation. I know Paintshop Pro rather well, I can create banners, images, website images, wallpapers etc. I also know a smidgen of 3d design with 3D Max. I spent three years designing game content for The Sims 2 for a large site, so I have some knowledge of game content work.

I have to say Bill that this has touched a part of me that has been festering for some time. The feeling of hopelessness has been the overriding emotion for some time. This has been replaced with hope. Hope that there is a way to save what is good and best about our world. Thank you for taking the time to write this. Count me in. What little knowledge I have is available. I would also like to thank Misha for posting the link to this amazing essay.



RiverCocytus asked: What precisely do you mean by religion?

Holding the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent being (aka God, the state, the public, et.al) as truth without evidence and in spite of evidence to the contrary (aka faith).

There is vanishingly little difference between religion and Rousseau's concept of The Social Contract. The only difference is the label he gives to the non-existent being to which all must give all.

PS: It is Rousseau's formulation of The Social Contract that all reference to "The Social Contract" ultimately devolves. We must either use a different term for our relationship mutual respect and honor of individual rights or constantly fight being misunderstood.



Something tells me the posts about religion and the religious are getting ahead of things here. I anticipate joining many a thread of that sort, but for now I'll offer this much.

The Next Door Neighbor Rule: I don't care what you believe, I'm going to try and be a good neighbor to you, and give you no cause to regret living next door to me. Give me the same consideration, that's all I ask.

I'd much rather have a good neighbor who thinks I'm wrong 90% of the time than a jerk who doesn't.

Works for me.



The name's Kris, but you can call me "Ninjafluff" if you'd like. I'm in.

I'm an excellent cook and am able (and willing) to teach anyone to cook, as well as to give any hints, tips, and advice to any who would like them. Hey, builders need to eat too, right? Additionally, I have decent computer repair knowledge (get a Dell? Ha! I can teach you to build your own!), several years of veterinary work under my belt (man's best friend needs help too!), and EMT-Basic training (you know... for when you hit the *wrong* nail). As a last resort, I can also be used as comic relief!

All the knowledge I have is free for those who desire it. I am by no means an expert at anything, but all I have is available. I can't wait to see Ejectia! a year from now!



How is holding the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent being (aka God) as truth without evidence and in spite of evidence to the contrary (aka faith) any different? I find no difference.

The difference is that science has nothing to say about whether or not there is a deity or what, if there is, its nature is. It CAN'T- a deity is by definition supernatural, outside of nature, transcending nature. Science can only elucidate natural law. When the religious claim that science is totally wrong because their religion says so, that's another matter- but the existence or lack of same of a God isn't something that even can be settled by debate.

Part of faith is just that: taking (insert god concept here) on faith. Given that concepts like "justice", "mercy", and "morality" are also abstracts that are taken mostly on faith to be "real" and worth working for, we atheists are on rather shaky ground in discarding the worth of faith entirely.

Strongly? Yes. Some people are offended? Yes.
So what?

The so-what is that we're trying to preserve the "being decent to each other at someone else's party" aspect of this community. That's why I proposed a split between areas for serious debate and more light-hearted ones- to preserve an area where we don't need to worry much about offense when it comes to reasoned argument.

This comment box right here? Mainly, it's a welcome mat for the community we're trying to build. Disagreement, sure. It's gonna happen and it's even productive, often. Calling faith a mental illness? Not productive.

I'm sure there are going to be people MORE than happy to debate the matter with you seriously- but this is not the time or the place. I have all sorts of strong convictions that I CAN and WILL argue, but I sure as hell don't expect to have to do so instantly just by turning up at the party, especially one where I've been asked to give a brief description of myself.

Incidentally, you contradicted yourself by telling people of faith what they should be concentrating on after you got done telling them you didn't want to tell them what to believe. If this were a real debate, that might be a nasty little opening. ;)



Lionell,

Respect comes in the form of acknowledging someone's personal beliefs without shouting them down and comparing them to "2+2=3 on Tuesday or that Green Gremlins on Venus are causing global warming".

As far as I can tell, no one here has attacked you or your beliefs (or lack thereof).

By the way, when you make statements like referring to people believing in the existence of God "in spite of evidence to the contrary " - in the first place, it's just silly - you have no such evidence (and no, "prove that there is one, then" doesn't count).

In the second place, an intelligent, thinking person is going to know the effect such a statement is likely to have on civil discourse in a forum populated by predominantly conservative posters (whether social, religious or otherwise)- to make the statement anyway... makes you the closest thing we've had to an actual troll so far.

How about you simmer down until we can build you a place to do this?

- MuscleDaddy



Rickbert wrote: The Next Door Neighbor Rule: I don't care what you believe, I'm going to try and be a good neighbor to you, and give you no cause to regret living next door to me. Give me the same consideration, that's all I ask.


Works for me! Unfortunately, the devil is in the details of what "good" means.




We're willing to settle for "pleasant and civil" in this context, Lionell.



Rickbert,

Just the kind of neighbor every person could hope for - Welcome!

Ninjafluff,

Your veterinary work dovetails nicely with Maggie's 'hay-burners' - self-sufficiency, here we come! Welcome to You!

- MuscleDaddy



You should also note that it was not I who brought up the topic of religion or the notion of Ejecta becoming a Galt's Gulch. I commented on the disjunction between the two notions. Strongly? Yes. Some people are offended? Yes. So what?

You are welcome to your beliefs. I would no more would or could force you to be an atheist than I would allow you to force me to be religious. However, I would ask, if you can't tolerate and defend against opposition to your religious ideas, how secure are you in holding them?

Regarding the first part, I think the problem is that you started out by levelling needlessly harsh and overly broad criticisms at Religion and Social Contract:

Unless and until the psychosis of religion AND the obscene notion of "The Social Contract" can be challenged and discarded for the trash they are,...

Just because you are not religious does not prove that being religious is psychotic, it just proves that religion is not for you. I can see where you got the notion that the Social Contract was obscene, because of the source you cited later, but still it seems pointlessly strongly worded. In other words, I think your argument would have been gotten across more clearly if you had tried to approach the subject less confrontationally than by making statements which, when viewed in a simple text format, come across as if you're intentionally being offensive, even if you weren't trying to be.



MuscleDaddy wrote: ...an intelligent, thinking person is going to know the effect such a statement is likely to have on civil discourse in a forum populated by predominantly conservative posters....

If one topic is off limits because someone will be offended, then all topics that matter ultimately become off limits. I am as offended by your claim that religion is somehow sacrosanct and beyond discussion as you are by my saying its empty of content because its a subject without an object.

Why is your being offended able to trump my being offended? Apparently the religious get to prattle on about being religious and I am to remain quiet. Looks like some people get to be more equal than others.




Regarding Muscledaddy's comment above, I'm all for waiting to rekindle a debate like this one after we have gotten the appropriate forums built.

We'll start by copying whatever your reply is to my most recent post, huh?



Hello all...not wanting to rant but probably will anyway ;)

Not new to the internet or discusson forums, but the nom de guerre is new for me...but seemed appropirate.

Like many, Jack of Many Trades, master of none.

I'll withhold other personal details for now, but I will add that I'm a sheepdog...

As are many people that have posted here...In fact, certain trends have stood out...Majority of folks are in a "service" vocation or avocation ...not necessarily the military, but alot of vets, firemen, teachers, Scouts ...that's interesting.

Also a trend of deliberate self-reliance...own a gun and have trained with it, built a house, repair cars/houses, hunting and fishing....that's interesting.

Looking forward to a coming discussion board...



Oy vey. Welcome all!

The question that should perhaps be asked is WHY does such an idea appeal to both the religious and the non, to those of various religions, etc.

There is a saying: "the truth cannot be told so as to be understood and not be believed" (William Blake.)

Understanding is something that is lived.



Ejectia

I have the wisdom of seventy years,
But I don�t have the answer we need.
I only know what the enemy is,
That little old hypnotist: Greed.

But Bill is forming a Force Majeure,
Folks who have learned how to live,
By working and building a fruitful life,
But most of all learning to give.

Folks that are ready to say �Get Lost,
We�re here to play by the rules.�
We�ve gathered to help this country survive,
We�re no longer fodder for fools.

So if you�re lost in the Washington maze,
If you think your power is grand,
Check your six for Ejectia�s birth,
Your butt is about to be canned.

MJ



Why is your being offended able to trump my being offended? Apparently the religious get to prattle on about being religious and I am to remain quiet. Looks like some people get to be more equal than others.

Don't be so binary.

You're plenty bright enough to know inflammatory language when you see it- or use it. Or, for that matter, to notice that half the people arguing with you are either atheists or pagans with no investment in the sacredness of religion. (Or, for that matter, notice that outside of you the religious and the not so have been dealing with each other's stated faith or lack thereof just fine without resorting to Venusian gremlins.)

As a helpful example, you could have levied that particular accusation without the Animal Farm reference and it wouldn't have been half so grating.



Fascinating essays, lots to contemplate...

Main job: Web Services Technical Advisor for high-tech semiconductor company

Main hobby: writer and self-publisher of Autumn Jade Mystery Series (http://www.autumnjade.com/)

Teachable skills: Apache, Solaris, Linux Ubuntu, ldap, mySQL, Perl, mediawiki, search engine optimization, open source software installation (chat, forums, etc.), self-publishing, and more.

Motto: Never be just a one trick pony

Thanks Bill!



Mr. Griffith, by appearances the dialogue attempts made by others responding to your posts are being handled in a binary fashion, go-or-no-go. Binary does very swiftly sort out irrelevancies but I'm not convinced that this mode is sufficient to address whole systems of thought. What I am seeing is that several people are trying to show that there are more than two options for the resolution of a question. I would encourage everyone to see if they have this in common.

That is to say, would you be willing to consider finding another option for your response?



LabRat, you're so much quicker than I. It seems we share an observation at least in part. I'd try to say something more profound but it probably wouldn't come out until tomorrow! =)



Lionell,

NOW you're just being unnecessarily confrontational.

Topics are for discussion - making unsupportable statements (noticed you didn't pony-up your 'evidence') in the most offensive, hurtful and confrontative way possible is for shutting down discussion.

Discussion you clearly don't actually intend to entertain in the first place, since people opposed to your view don't actually 'discuss' or 'debate' - they "prattle on".

You are not attempting to 'discuss' on a 'topic', sir - you are merely behaving churlishly.

- MuscleDaddy



MJ -
I always appreciate a witty turn-of-phrase - Welcome!

SteveW

Glad you're here!

If you're In, Drop me a line - muscledaddy_2ATyahooDOTcom
We're sure going to need the help!

- MuscleDaddy



"half the people arguing with you are either atheists or pagans"

Well, I kinda have a fondness for 'one of the Great Unwashed' but that's really a bit of an inside joke that goes way back with me.

But other than that, ya, what LabRat said.



Gotta agree with Otto Gass. Everytime I think of how I might respond, most of you are five posts down the road.

I think LabRat nailed the key concept : Context.
Usually don't want to go all churlish ( nice word ! )when you're meeting folks for the first time. Especially when the barbecue is in someone else's backyard.

But I'd love to throw down over the philosophical meaning of "good" once the appropriate forum is up Lionell.
Till then, maybe we can just have another beer and talk about those damn judges at the De la hoya-Mayweather fight ..oh wait...sorry...now that's dangerous and controversial territory right there!



This religious discussion is good and appropriate... at a different place and time. What I am interested in right now is making newcomers feel at home here, and this is not helping us to do that.

One idea GHS and I had over a phone discussion yesterday was the idea of an "arena" module, where we can do exactly this kind of point/counterpoint argument.

But for now, put it to rest please... to be discussed another day.



PLEASE tell me this isn't going to devolve into another religious battle. I've had this argument over too many beers over the years, and it's just as boring now as it was then.
What I really want to know is why "the boid" says he puts sugar in his steak rub. I was all pumped up with his recipe until he mentioned the sugar. What gives, boid?



MJ - I enjoyed that! I do so appreciate a balance between the serious and the playful. Thanks!



Hi the Grump here
my small talents are in Linux, Appliance repair I have been a Marine a commercal pilot a HVAC technician and I don't know what I will do when I grow up ;-)
I am willing to share any knowledge that I might have
[WARNING] I am sometimes very sarcastic



Hi Grump!

Commercial Pilot!

Bill! Look! A commercial pilot!

Welcome!

- MuscleDaddy



Hello, I'm Ken.

I can cook and bake (pies, cookies, Magyar nut & jelly rolls). I could teach that once I figure out how to do it over the Whebb.

I could probably teach the bare rudiments of rifle and pistol (how not to be a menace to yourself) and foil (how to be at least a slight menace to someone who deserves it).

I have worked on cars in my time, but I really only do brakes and the odd muffler nowadays, and that in self-defense. Anything much more ambitious than that is beyond my tools and inclination. However, I am a skilled interior painter (not fast enough to do it as a trade, but meticulous--that's the key to good results as an amateur).

I can teach marketing strategy, marketing theory, discuss the philosophy of science (I'm a scientific realist, what are you?), and marketing communications. I'm getting my doctorate to do that for a living, and I have a particular research and teaching interest in entrepreneurship.

I play bass and guitar and could teach at least the rudiments of those.

I can also grow raspberries and tend apple trees (I'm a little better with the berries). Used judiciously, captan is your friend.



Hello to all:

After reading that wonderful essay, I realized that its contents applies to me on a very basic level, that of having been born to a large family of four siblings. A group such as my first family is but a microcosm of society as a whole. I have never been able to actually name my position in this group of people, but now I know I am the "Remnant." I have been likened by friends to being a fireman in that I am the one who will run into the burning building while others run out.

For all of my bravery, the thought of having to list what attributes I may have to offer to this community leaves me quite anxious. You see, I do not hold a degree nor do I hold a position of any importance. But...I can type 120 words a minute, I can decipher what a physician is saying while they chomp and chew their way through a dictation, and I have survived working almost completely isolated from the world so I can be at home to raise my daughter into a responsible, caring adult.

After giving it some thought, I have more to offer than that though. I've been told that I am a warm and engaging person who makes others feel special and appreciated. I am able to calm small children and make them laugh at the mistakes that deserve being laughed at. I single handedly cared for my dying father and crippled mother while watching my siblings go on about their lives as though their latest vacation was more important than our parent's health. Most courageous thing I have ever done though was have to change my big, strong Daddy's adult diaper when he became completely bedridden. I was rewarded for my efforts when he introduced me to one of his nurses as "...my daughter Karyn who saved my life."

Ha! Me, a life saver.

But, when I saw that video of the 90-year-old man being car jacked and beaten to a pulp, I knew that if I were there I would have done something...anything. Taking the tire iron out of my trunk and lobbing at the bad guy's head would have been a start. In the past I have twice confronted full grown men who were physicially abusing children in public, stood up in their face, then called the authorities. And followed through by testifying in court both times.

I guess what I have to offer most of all is that part of me that is now a mother to all. The desire to comfort and care for others is overwhelming sometimes. Now that I have a name to put to it, I feel all the more empowered.

Caretaker...Mother...Remnant.

Wow. Thanks for that Bill.

I'm proud to say I am a part of this growing community.



Hi Ken,

Brakes I can handle - I'm more interested in those Magyar nut & jelly rolls!
(creeeeeping near dinnertime!)

Welcome!

- MuscleDaddy



My name is Rosie and I work in a community college in the Govt/Hist department and have heard a plethera of theories and none of them seemed reasonable to me, too extreem one way or the other. I kept thinking that at some point we, as a nation, needed to do something and the statement about enforcing the small laws made so much sence. I've heard threories on how we should never vote someone in for a second term and that will keep politicians honest, and I thought that would just make them worse because they would grab what they could while they could. I watch "man's inhumanity to man" and think how can you look at another human being and not see a mother/sister/father/brother/child? This has given me hope. Thank you.
I am very creative, any thing that involves craft and handiwork. I am also very good at orginizing. I don't know how valuable my craft is but it would be easy to teach over the net, as for orginizing that is just a thing I can do. Also, I am very good with teaching remedial math. Tutoring math has been one of my more favorite jobs. I also have taught riflery, but I'm sure there are better at it than me. My useless talent, all of us have one, is I know the words to hundreds of songs. Yeah, not very helpful but entertaining!



Karyn,

Managing to be successful as both a mother and a child?

You have more to offer than most of us.

Welcome.

- MuscleDaddy



Karyn,
And you can write!

I had tears in my eyes at the end.

Welcome!



Karyn,
And you can write!

I had tears in my eyes at the end.

Welcome!



My first double post. Damn you Dougman!



Bill, I have always appreciated your writing but this last is one of the best. Count me in, if possible. Professionally I am a retired surgeon, but really I am a chef, horse trainer, carpenter, cabinet maker, history buff, modestly good fly fisherman, and used to be fair shot. I feel like I have been camping in your valley.

Not just who, but where is John Galt. Life goes on.



Doc Hull,

You can leave the sugar out and it is still excellent. You won't notice much of a difference, if you notice one at all. I have done it both ways. The reason I put the sugar in is because that's the way I was taught. The man who gave me the recipe was a second (maybe 3rd) generation butcher and had decades worth of steak grilling experience so I didn't question his recipe. And when I tried it, I loved it. Go for it.



Walt- I had a chance to check out your site.

WOW, man. Kind of makes me wish we hadn't already ordered our next humidor. (Already shipping.) You do very pretty work!

Doc- I'm wondering about the sugar too, but I'm game. A guy I once knew refused to ever give away the secret of his delicious steaks, and one thing I do know was that they were sweet in a way that complemented everything else perfectly.



I found the essay to be very interesting and it even had a few 'a ha!' points in it. You put into words things I've been noticing more and more of late, especially since moving to California.

As for skills, my biggest skill is that I can survive. I know what it takes, and I'm not afraid to do what has to be done when the time comes to do it. And no that isn't ominous like it may sound, I have just witnessed way too many people sitting around waiting to die rather than getting up and doing things.

For more mundane skills, I know how to train animals (both domestic and wild), I know how to fly fixed wing aircraft, I know first aid, I know a lot of computer languages and operating systems, I know how to ride and fix cars, motorcycles, and bicycles. I know self defense, I know firearms, plumbing, electical, basic carpentry and other construction skills, Scuba, animal husbandry, and a few other things as well. If I know it, I can teach it (and may have taught it before), and I've got a BSEE.



I'm good at writing, if I do say so myself - both technical and other types of writing - and at locating information, whether anyone wants me to have it or not!

In "real life," I'm an IT professional with 30 years' experience; most, but not all, of it on IBM mainframes. I'm the admin for this blog: 1389 Mobile Blog; most of the blog posts, but not all, are my doing. I've also done quite a bit of political activism, primarily against jihadists.

Those of you who know what happened in the year 1389 will understand...

By the way, I've linked to this article at It's new, it's by William A. Whittle, and it's worth reading now. Comments are open there too.



Hey, ya'll. Spacecraft engineer, and I have taught it. I have a button I picked up at NASA that says "Why, yes, I AM a rocket scientist!". If I try to be more accurate people's eyes start to glaze. I know physics, astronomy, math, all that stuff. My family's genes are jug-eared farmer; I can grow my own food and landscaping, and I'm a damn good cook, too. 'Spose that comes from all the thermodynamics and chemistry we learn to be engineers; I seem to have an instinct for those subjects. I often feel alone, and now have a word for it: Remnant. May be a small group, or a huge one, but I knew we were out there. We're just drowned out. I often feel the desire to do the grab lapels - shake vigorously thing with many people. Sheep, look up! Voting, 2-party system, call your representative . Meh. I send Bill's essays to those I think would profit, usually prepended with "You want to know how I think, look at the world? Here." I've long felt that this process of deconstruction will continue, but I have high hopes for the Singularity, as Instapundit likes to discuss; but while fire gives birth to new life, it is, after all, fire. It will be difficult to scrape the barnacles from this ship. They don't want to go. Not all of us will make it there to Ejectia Realized; that is, alas, the way of it. We've had it too easy for too long I guess; 'spose we'll have to fight for it, now.



maynardg,
Wow! A real rocket scientist. Can I borrow you button to impress the chicks?
As long as they do ask me any questions.

Welcome!



Carl,
John Galt was a cardboard cut-out. Ever hear him tell a joke?
Man, he sucked at it!
Bill's a real man warts and all.

Opps! Sorry.
I wasn't supposed to tell anyone about the warts.

Welcome!



It sure looks like we have a large population. I am not going to even pretend I read all of these comments.
How does one organize such a large group of contributing members effectively enough for any one to be able to belong to the others?
Right now it sounds like static with all the different ideas going in all directions. Raw power. Resources galore.



Rose,
Hundreds of songs!
You are so my moving buddy when we get the new place built. Karaoke night at Chase's and I won't even need the tele-prompter.

Welcome!

D4/Stan



Hi, I'm Lissa and I have been a Bill Whittle fan since "Victory" was published. That is when I first knew that I am not alone. It is also when I first realized that my whole life has been in preparation for ... something. Events, people I have met, things I have learned, experiences I have survived ... it's all for a purpose. I cannot yet say exactly what, but I am getting a glimmer of an idea.

Like several others have said, I know a little about a wide variety of things. I have done a wide variety of things. I have met some unusual challenges.

Right now my best skills are computers and yarn. Yes, yarn. I knit and crochet. I am also working in the IT field, currently working towards my BS on Computer Science, and in what little spare time I have, I use a couple of sticks to transform string into works of art. I also make pretty web sites.

I have been a paramedic, a midwife and a single mom. I have cared for a family member with a mental illness. I have taken on and won my and my children's rights against my ex, the state, schools and medical authorities. I am the person that steps forward to aid when all others turn away. I stand up for the weak, small and vulnerable. I empower others to do the same.

Fate is taking me somewhere with a definite purpose. I still do not know the exact nature of this or where exactly I am going, but I am going. Perhaps this is a glimmer of what is to come. I am ready.



Thanks LabRat.
Kind of you to say.

These days I can't help but think it's not enough anymore though...to just cultivate your passion/facility and find a niche for it in the economy. Guess that's why I'm here.
I have generally fallen back on the notion that a life lived in a quietly honorable way is enough...especially growing up midst massively dysfunctional folk like I did. But since 9/11 I'm not so sure anymore. That was my backyard and my friends in those buildings. I feel like my alarm went off 10 minutes ago and I still haven't gotten out of bed . Just looking for a way to be a better, more relevant Remnant maybe.

I'm humbled by the quality and experience of all the people introducing themselves on this board. Hope I can contribute in some small way. We'll see.



Hello all,

My name is Mike. I deliberately use my real given name instead of a screen name because in reading the introductory posts so far I fear that the medium (internet) that makes "Ejectia" possible can also be its downfall before it gets off the ground! Let me explain.

Screen names provide anonymity. They allow people to say things and behave differently than if they were not anonymous. In this are the seeds of failure of "Ejectia" if not overcome. I know Rachel Lucas personally and that is her real name. Bill Whittle uses his real name. I am using my real name. I will not behave differently than my normal personality in everyday life because I will not hide behind a screen name.

We see the abuses of minors by sexual predators on fora such as Myspace.com where predators hide behind screen names and cannot be easily identified until and unless a trap is set ("Hello, I'm Chris Hansen from Dateline NBC")

Already here on "Ejectia" with the introductory posts we see disagreement and the seeds of criticism. Would this behavior occur if our real names were being used?

One of my personal skills is problem solving and Customer Satisfaction. My opinion is that in order for all of us to be honest, civil, contributing, productive associates of "Ejectia", we may have to find a way to come out from behind our screen names.

Talk about a coming out!

Mike Flicinski
Round Rock, Texas



It's been done. But it needs to be revived in every generation. The Free University, that is. Done in the 60s. But the challenges and the tone are different this time around. Then, the motive was to free knowledge dissemination from the restrictions of the classroom and formal academia. This time it's to build , well, you described it yourself.

also the Whole Earth Catalog was the next iteration of the Free University, and combined both motives. "We are as gods and may as well get good at it....." plus "back to the land" movements in fear of societal collapse in the 70s.

Thanks for helping the 00s version get started.



I can teach unarmed self-defense. Which is useful even if you have a gun, because you want to have access to a range of responses. You want to be able to fill in the gap between "do nothing" and "kill."

Also I can teach calligraphy. And Jewish liturgy and basic concepts and beliefs.



Hi, Mike.
Whatever type of user registration is decided upon, it will definitely have accountability built in. If you've got a couple of hours, go check out the thread on "A Moving Company"
I'm with you, but there are some that are risking real physical and/or professional harm by posting a real name.

D4
Stan Ely
Houston, Tx



Yehudit,
"You want to be able to fill in the gap between "do nothing" and "kill."
Sounds like an important gap to fill.

We've had many martial arts/self defense "remnants" step forward.

That's something I'm really interested in learning.

Is it possible to teach visually? Like, I watch you do it, then you watch me do it and correct me? Like on a web cam?



Hi to everyone who has visited and decided to post, especially those who have posted for the very first time.

Please know that this is the place to start posting. Bill's request for folks to tell us about themselves and can they teach it, is an invitation and how many have responded positively is its own lavish praise.

Boring, it ain't.

Thank God! Uh'p, sawry, thank Goodness! Um. Thank goodness! Uhhh... thank you compadre! No, that's not it... uh... um... ah!

Thanks neighbor!

Was that ok? Think it'll work? A little too Tool Time, mebbe'?



Hi all, my name is Jamie.

I'm a Texan. My skill set includes accounting, finance and leadership. Probably not particularly useful in this endeavor. I labor hard to improve myself on a daily basis; working to be a good leader, remove my innate biases and maintain an open mind to ideas that challenge my world view.

I think Bill's idea of Ejectia is wonderful. Who wouldn't like a place where you can go for sane discussion and edification?



Jamie,
Thank you.

You just proved a point I made here a few days ago.

Never ask a person where they're from.

If they're from Texas, they'll tell you.

If they're not...

you don't want to embarrass them!

Howdy!

D4/Stan



Okay, people, listen up. We have a vitally important decision to make in the near future:

Which obscure running joke shall we adopt?

As I see it, we have two options:

1. Bill's name is really Bruce Edwin Morrow, and we're going to drive ourselves bats trying to figure out where Prime Base is.

2. Bill's name is really Hari Seldon, and we're going to drive ourselves bats trying to figure out where he's decided to stash the Second Foundation. (What's the opposite end of the Web from Ejectia?)

The second has the virtue of being slightly less obscure than the first, but the first has that game-geek cache so prized on the Web.

And now that's done, allow me to confirm that I will not be offering to teach comedy, for which we may all be suitably grateful. Thank you for your time. :-P

Ken



Howdy All,

My name is Will Thomas of San Antonio Tx. My expertise is in the Field of Custom window coverings. Blinds,Shades,Shutters and Drapery. I have also built many a structure, from garden shed to manse, can repair anything mechanical, paint-commercial not artistic and as a former Sonar technician can do basic electronic and electrical trouble shooting and repair. As a former Combat Engineer, if you need a mine field cleared or anything blown up I'm your man!



I loved this post. Hardly anyone I know in "the real world" knows who Ayn Rand is, much less John Galt, and I've seen both of them in the comments. Count me in, I'm a mother of two, former EOD soldier who is also really good at living with a former Ranger with PTSD. I might be able to teach somebody something about not getting your feelings hurt too easily....



daddyquatro and MuscleDaddy (do I sense a theme here? lol)

Thank you for reading and responding to my rather long-winded post. I am flattered that anyone would take the time to do so. And thanks for encouraging others with their posts too.

I am skipping and jumping around here on the comments page, but from what I have read so far this is an amazing group of people. But what else could we expect from those attracted to Bill Whittle and his writings?

When I first read "Tribes" I sent it to every person on my email list. A few actually read it and were amazed that someone could put in writing what so many of us were thinking. I have always admired people who are so obviously intelligent, but I admire even more the person who can take their profound intelligence and put it into plain terms for those of us who aren't "rocket scientists." Whats the point in having smarts if you can't pass them around?

Anyone thinking what I'm thinking? Next presidential election should include a landslide write-in vote for Bill Whittle. Can you imagine? Of the people, for the people... Wow...gives me chills.



Aleta Jackson here, in Mojave California. I can write and edit, and have some skill with machines. And I know a little about space (as in outer). I am eager enough to teach such things that if anyone here wants a paid six month's internship at my company, please let me know and we'll talk off line about that.



The Judeo-Christian system of morals and ethics is too much a part of Western Civilization to ban religion as a topic for debate. But freedom of religion is not the same as freedom from religion. If LDS wants a church in ejectia, I say let them build one. But I agree with Bill about time and place. A free-for-all on the subject of religion will not illuminate the topic, nor convert anyone to anything. Free and open discourse will require us, in time, to discuss religion, faith, revelation and the related disciplines within philosophy, like cosmology and ontology. As long as the conversation falls within LabRat's Rules of Engagement (yeah, I know, needs a better name), we must discuss it. And we'll do so with respect and logic, because that's who we are. How else will we know the TRUTH?



I'm at this moment listening to a sermon from a preacher from Kentucky, and what is he speaking about??

The Remnant!! My jaw just hit the floor. Before today I may well have not paid any attention to that term. Now it has more meaning.



Ok, save civilization by being a better person. Lead by example. Cool.

But how does one retaliate to the cheaters in life? Say your colleague is a lying, backstabbing SOB. How do you defend yourself without losing your own integrity?

I assume a ball peen hammer is out of the question.



Oldsmoblogger, let me let you in on a little secret. There is no Bill Whittle. He is Hari Seldon.



NMM1AFan, let your integrity be your shield, and truth be your sword.



Some points regarding the iterated prisoner's dilemma:

1. For cooperation in the prisoner's dilemma to be an advantage, it not only has to be iterated, but the players can't know when the iterations are going to stop. If both parties know there will be exactly N iterations, then on the Nth turn, it's in both players advantage to defect since the other player has no chance to retaliate. Of course, on turn N-1, since they know the other player is going to defect anyways the next term, there's no retaliation for defecting that turn as well. This continues back until we find out the optimal strategy is to defect on every turn again.

2. Tit for Tat is not, in fact, the best algorithm. It is, however, the best algorithm that doesn't rely on the presence of other algorithms in the opponent pool. There are several other algorithms that can win as long as certain other algorithms are present as well. As an example, there is an algortihm called Pavlov that that will ultimately come out on top, provided that there are some Tit for Tat algorithms in the opponent pool (it can beat Tit for Tat, but can't beat some of the other algorithms Tit for Tat can beat so it depends on Tit for Tat to clear them out of the way for it.) More interestingly for your analogy, there's an algorithm called Southhampton that comes in two versions, a master version and a slave version. The master version wins by having the slave copies deliberately lose to it (the different copies identify each other through a 10 iteration pattern of defects and no-defects that serve as a handshake). The master ends up doing incredibly well, but of course the slaves are metaphorically commiting suicide to make it happen.

3. One of your main points is that we need a society where people are safe to think long term instead of focusing on short term gain. This is a great point about society, but the iterated prisoner's dilemma isn't a good example of it. Tit for Tat doesn't need a helpful opponent pool to do well; what makes it should a good algorithm that it succeeds despite a heavily uncooperative opponent pool. It cooperates with those it can, minimizes damage with those it can't, and lets the uncooperative algorithms knock each other out.



I am Tom Bridgeland. I am a Realtor in northern Illinois. I can teach you to make good decisions when buying or selling a house.

I have spent most of the last 20 years roaming the world. I can teach you how NOT to get sick in third world countries.

I speak two foreign languages well. I can teach you how to learn a foreign language, so that you learn to speak it fluently and effectively.



Andrew here. I know a fair bit about pistol and rifle marksmanship and survival skills and I am pretty competent at teaching both.



My name is CJ and Misha sent me. -- Hi MuscleDaddy!! Good to see you :) --

I'm a mom of 4, ages 14, 8, 3, and 2 and I am in school to become a nurse by the time my youngest starts kindergarten. I am very happily married to my high school sweetheart, who is 100% sheepdog and so surely part of this 'remnant' that you so brilliantly put into words.

As for me, to be brutally, sadly honest with you, (and more importantly with myself), I fall more into the sheep category. Not that I hate the sheepdogs...I LOVE them with everything I have in me...I mean that I make a concious decision to live most of my daily existence in semi-denial. I'm a talk radio junkie, I read the blogs, I stomach the nightly news, but when my sheepdog talks about weapons and preparedness and survival I figuratively (but sometimes literally) do the old fingers in the ears singing lalala. Wow, that's hard to admit, especially after reading every single one of these amazing comments.

I'm no warrior, but I am a good mommy, and although I don't think I have too much remnant in ME, I feel like I've been put in this place to care for those people in my life who DO!! My husband has it, my brother in Afghanistan has it. Maybe my part is helping them find their place in 'how to change the world'.

I don't know. I hope I'm still welcome here - I can't teach much (yet) but if your new place needs a mommy's love you know I'll be there!! Thanks. CJ

ps - Karyn, your words brought me to tears. You sound like a truly amazing woman.



DaddyQuatro,

Email me at skyechild12345@gmail.com, if you wish. I home-schooled both of my kidlets...one for two years, the other for three. I'd be glad to share my knowledge with you.



Well Bill, looks like you've finally gone off the deep end! :-)

I'm a software engineer, perhaps architect type. I'm pretty busy at work now, so don't know how much time I can contribute.

Here's some observations, though, that may serve to start an architecture discussion.

I only read about 1/3 of the comments before giving up, so forgive me if I repeat...

1. I'd say that you have your work cut out for you. I would expect a lot of dead-end roads with the endeavor because to do it right will require quite a lot of invention. And invention involves quite a lot of trial and error -- with the emphasis on error. I expect that there will be many who will abandon this after several false starts. Since you are the instigator, you will be the one to persevere. Edison said that invention is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration.

2. You advise that people should join forces without going through you.

Combining these leads me to visualize a service something like sourceforge.net, except that instead of an public source code repository, it would be a public/free/shared web server farm. People could try their hand at inventing various web services and putting them up on this shared server. Many attempts would lead nowhere, but a few would take off and make all the rest worth while.

Your image of the valley with buildings might serve as a visual table of contents to these various attempts at providing "Tools for the Remnants".



My name is Dan Cherney.
I own a lawn fertilizing business in the north Detroit metro area and I am a CNC programmer/machinist. I also am an amateur astronomer and Visual Basic programmer.

I can teach these skills.

I also served in the USMC, and I am ready to put my hand to ejectia.


If I can help you, feel free to contact me.



Wow

This is really something. I was thinking about how I was going to add whatever my small piece of the puzzle is and realizing that it is a rather daunting thing.

Then, I read a whole lot of posts from a whole lot of people who are in the same boat as I and that made me feel less concerned about what little I could offer.

I own/run a small business that sells pumping equipment for wide varieties of material dispensing needs; mainly piston pumps but also some spray finishing equipment and other smaller industrial items like solenoids, valves and cylinders. Any support that I could offer any of the Ejectians I am more than willing to help in any way that I can.

I have a great interest in aviation (which is one of the reasons I have continued to visit Bill's site...his love of the sky is contagious) and I'm also a semi-pro musician (guitar, currently studying jazz although mainly self taught but I'd be willing to try to share some understanding). I'm also seriously into history (primarily Roman and middle ages although everything catches my imagination). I love a great bottle of wine...and scotch. I'm into just about all things technical and could use some help polishing my understanding of many things so I'm really looking forward to this.

I'm a married father of two young adults that are currently working their way through our educational system enroute to degrees. Mr. Whittle, my daughter is very interested in becoming a screenwriter so any advice you could offer there would be most welcome. My son is undecided on all fronts except the fact that he requires of himself a bachelor degree at a minimum which is an exceedingly good thing.

I've been with my wife now for 22 years so I think I'm qualified on the relationship front for what that's worth (and it's quite a bit).

This is a truly high minded idea Mr. Whittle and I'm in awe of your ability to express yourself with the written word. I've been admiring your writing for many years now and am very glad that you've returned with such gusto and with a plan.

For my part; I stand ready and eager to learn and to help where, when and as often as I can.

Chris Ludwig



I'm Susan. I work as a mental health counselor in the cranky-pants city of Seattle. I'm convinced I'll never be without work. This post made me heave a huge sigh of relief. I'm glad I'm not alone.
I can teach people to swim.



Fascinating concept.

I'll do what I can, although I'll be gone for 9 months here shortly for US Army Basic Training and AIT...

I'm a teacher, an engineer, a firefighter, an EMT, and soon to be a soldier.

There's a lot of things I'm good at, and happy to share what I can from self-defense to tactics to poetry. :-)

Orion



I'm JIM, AKA "The Basseteer", I am owned by a basset hound. I'm a 60 YO retired firefighter, spent 26 years on the job; the last 15 driving a ladder truck.
It's one of those jobs that requires you to know a little bit about nearly everything and to know where you have to go to find out what you don't know. Discussions at the station ranged from quantum mechanics to the best way to field dress a javalina. You learn more about how things come apart then how they are put togather. Most what I do anymore is home repair, maintenance and improvement around my own house; more time then money, so what should sometime be a one hour job usually takes all day while I modify something to make it work.



I suppose I should have listed my skills in my first post. Some are so rusty I'm not sure I should even mention them but I've done a wide variety of things: I worked for Pinkerton's as a security guard, mostly unarmed posts. I worked in a sawmill that made gunstock blanks and lumber as a bandsawyer, fork lift operator and cut off saw operator. I had a job repairing small appliances and replacing automotive glass. I've repaired computers and worked in a call center selling computers and electronic equipment. I used to work in a fast-food restaurant as a supervisor. I've been a projectionist in a movie theater (I started on carbon-arc equipment switching projectors with each reel change then switched to the quartz platter system when the theater I worked in invested in the new [then it was new, it's been awhile] equipment. I've worked with the mentally retarded as a direct care aide with both high level and profoundly retarded individuals. For the past five years I've been a reporter for a small newspaper in southwest Missouri.
I'm not sure how any of that could help this endeavor but I'm willing to do whatever I can.



This essay was extremely timely for our family. We are struggling to buy a house and do a little more than live on the ragged edge of financial ruin or stagnation at best. It seemed to us lately that the cheaters had gained such a foothold, it made no sense to play the straight and narrow. Should we join the ranks of the people who engage in frivolous lawsuits or outright deceit? Maybe we should betray and screw the other guy?

Happily the answer is a resounding NO. We can�t even round out numbers the wrong way on our taxes to gain an extra dollar or charge $1 over the actually shipping price on our Ebay auctions. We are the ones that usually pay somebody else�s over-inflated shipping. We are suckers, but we are suckers with honor, courage, generosity, goodwill and all that those good virtue thingys. I like to think that we are good people. It can be frustrating at times to wonder when the retaliation is going to start so it will be somewhat advantageous to be nice again.

My husband can run heavy equipment for construction and is pretty good at figuring most mechanical things out. I am a librarian. I�m pretty good at finding information and I can organize books into a system that allows others to find information.

I am a Technician Class Ham radio operator. I can also shoot just about any caliber weapon, have Army training, can take care of kids, care for animals, ride a motorcycle, cook and teach others what I know with patience. Well, most of the time.

We offer what we have.



Gunslinger and LabRat,

Another fast car person here. Got an 64 Alfa Romeo spyder that has been in restoration for 30 odd years now. One of these days...

Also have a Honda CRX (with a set of 40 DCOE Webers transplanted from another Alfa) which I have been know to run a few hillclimbs with. Great fun!

Daily driver is a VW Golf TDI. 48 mpg and it will get out of it's own way to the great chagrin of the last NASCAR driver wannabe that I coaxed onto a curvy road...



Oh. I have and can teach corner worker skills for anyone who wants to go play in traffic at your local sports car race.



I am an old warrior from the south east asia conflict of the 60s and 70s. Some may not remember that event. However, at the time it was in all the papers. I am an investigator. Can't teach anything; but I look forward to being a student. Thank you.



Oldsmoblogger,

The other end of the Internet would be here: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm



OK I get it. Well, sort of. I was watching a documentary on the Challenger disaster back in the 1980s, and remembered a kind of "episode" I had back then. The situation was sort of personal, but basically it involved a sort vision (probably spurred by a broken heart) that involved becoming a kind of "vanguard" for a civilizational trauma. I think the idea was that having "pre-experienced" the trauma I'd be able to help others deal with the upset, and make it through the smoke and fire.

So the idea is that there are certain skills that kick in once we pass the point of no-return. They become relevant, whereas they're normally not-so-relevant.

Problem is, age is creeping up on me, and I'm now past 60. I can't run a marathon any more. Indeed, and can't even run a 10K. However, I can still row a 10K pretty easily.

What can I do and teach? I've studied with people who have had the knack of establishing civilization. My main mentor was an advisor to the Mandela South African regime, and wrote one of the seminal books in political science. I always figured that he knew more about the Founding of the United States than most people have forgotten. But he's gone now, and his like won't be seen again... maybe forever. I'm second-rate compared to that old war horse, but even though he was incapacitated around the time of 9-11 he knew that there was method in the decision of al Qaeda to target the US. We're really the last thing in their way.

So, it's useful to have people who can teach some FUNDAMENTAL survival and organization skills, and the "remnant" was almost certainly my model for the transitional "pre-experienced" people, who damped the trauma of the rest of society as they entered the promised land.

I suppose what I have to offer is some rather subtle life lessons, rather than anything as useful as tying a tourniquet. I can put six or seven rounds into a 4-inch diameter target within a couple of seconds with a CZ or Beretta, but like who can't do that? Oh, I also know that John Locke took a great deal of trouble to cover his tracks, lest he run afoul of the "politically correct" presumptions of his time... so no one is ever completely free of the intimidations of the times.

And the next stage of institutional evolution beyond Democracy (power of "the people") is Demopsophia (wisdom of "the people"). Not that easy to reach... but it's definitely equivalent to what Bucky Fuller figured was touching the stars with a tetrahedron... or any random assortment of four non-collinear points. (Three is potentially a coincidence. More than three is something else altogether.)

It's not so much a matter of re-establishing civilization, as administering critical care during the crash. It's just such a narrow way.



I'm in. Unless this turns out to be some sort of a cult, then I'm out. I am a veterinarian and happy to help. Just put Scooby up to the web cam and I'll do what I can.
Seriously, this is a great idea, but not necessarily new. It just has a new vehicle which is vastly more inclusive. I want to go check out all underground movements that turned out to be right: Thomas Paine and Common Sense, The Underground Railroad, Montgomery Bus Boycott, etc. I don't know why what is right has to move underground, but I'm in because truth has to trump perception.



Demosophist,
What was the book?
Who was the mentor?

D4/Stan



Hi, Jimbo... you mentioned "My dad was also a retired USAF veteran that spent thousands of hours in RC-135's and 130's." If he also had some time in the 47's, loved BAT's, hated moneyrunners, ignored EWO's, distained frontenders, and was a cunning linguist, then we probably spent hours breathing each others stench and trying not to show anyone how scared we were.
Since you used the past tense, I guess that he is no longer with us. My condolences. If I am wrong, mention my name and deshereATcoxDotnet with an ID title so that I don't auto delete.
Aside from that: Re-reading all of BillW's stuff and trying to figure out how I can be of help here. "Tribes" is still my favorite.



Sheepdogs...Hmmm. Maybe we should realize that there is a bit of the sheepdog in all of us. We just need to let him out when its required. Perhaps you cannot wrestle the armed robber to the ground but you can use your cell phone to keep him insight.

Tracked a woman who had hit and run a mother and baby. We went all over the city...her looking back over her shoulder in her car with the baby carriage dragging under the front bumper and me talking to the police with my cell. Finally the police caught up with us and we cornered her in a gas station. She is serving time. People called me a hero but I dont believe that qualifies. Heroic means risking your life...I wasnt doing that. I was simply being a citizen.

So don't fear if you don't think of yourself as a sheepdog, just do the right thing when it matters. Don't turn away. Be aware of your surroundings. Watch everything. Question it all. Don't be a sheep chewing on your grass ignoring the world.



First off, my warmest regards to all of the members of this community, and the Cap'n himself, Bill Whittle. Having read all of the essays here, as well as slogging through the comment sections, I've come to find myself, for the first time, amongst like-minded peers. My thanks to all who are ready to begin this incredible experiment in human improvement...I cannot offer much in the way of help to this enterprise, but I know logistics (trucking and rail). I also know this will get lost in the shuffle of approximately eleventy billion other comments, but I'm all in.



Bill, your essays gave me a little spark of hope at a time when I had very little left.

I can't say too much about who I am, other than to say I'm a conservative who works in the news media... the political media, and it's a lonely, lonely place to be.

When it started, I don't know, but the intellectual rigor you referenced seems to have slowly dissipated, like helium out of a latex balloon. The ambient air of laziness and pop culture seems to have seeped in mightily over the past decade, and none but a few notice that the entire affair is sinking to the floor with gathering speed.

My own profession has fallen so far, so fast, that the only reason I don't jump off the sinking ship is so that I may look my children in the eye and tell them that I didn't give up, I stood in the gap and did the best I could until the very bitter end.

What I can teach: basic chemistry, basic around-the-house pharmocopia (ie how to fix a head cold on the cheap), intermediate auto repair, intermediate computer repair and construction, basic firearms skills and marksmanship.

And I can tell you anything you'd ever need to know about politics and media.

Thanks to everyone for being here. Hope is a precious commodity these days. Thank you all for sharing some with me.



D4-Stan

Demosophist,
What was the book?
Who was the mentor?

S.M. Lipset: Political Man

Lifelong Democrat, on the DLC with Bill Clinton. The last vote he cast of his life was for a Republican. Shhhh....



GatesofFire- so many valuable contributions... you might get lost, but there are those of us trying to keep track of them all. Maybe not well, but trying. (Logistics tends to help with that kind of thing.)

Billy- as a veteran of several pet boards, even an online long-distance veterinarian is invaluable when it comes to "HOLY HELL WHAT DO I DO NOW THE NEAREST E-VET IS FIFTY MILES AWAY AND CHARGES NINE HUNDRED BUCKS A VISIT". Which is my situation. It helps even if the only advice you can give is "Who cares, Scooby's in trouble, take him anyway."

Don- right now, a '99 Camaro Z28... but modified more than just a bit. And we love curvy mountain roads- especially at the high altitudes we're tuned for. Our restoration project is a '69 Impala, but she's not going to be a speed demon so much as a sleeper-slash-cruiser.

Hello everyone else... and I'm going to bed!



Mr. NB:

Glad to have you here. I despair too sometimes, even though I'm not in the media.



I feel like I've stumbled into (or is it out of?) the Matrix. I knew you were out there somewhere -- all of you! Glad we're being assembled ...

Leilani here, and even though I'm a regular reader of this and other blogs, this is my first post ever. Yes, I am that inspired. I am a passionate learner. If it's out there, I want to learn about it. I know weird health stuff and I can (and currently do) teach about natural health issues -- including tissue mineral analysis, nutritional counseling, etc. I work with cancer, diabetes, cholesterol, virus, and anything officially undiagnosed. I propose natural therapies for health problems. I also do name studies and artwork based on the meaning of people's names.

Like so many other posters, I am in full support of this effort and anticipating the fellowship of Ejectia.



I feel like I've stumbled into (or is it out of?) the Matrix. I knew you were out there somewhere -- all of you! Glad we're being assembled ...

Leilani here, and even though I'm a regular reader of this and other blogs, this is my first post ever. Yes, I am that inspired. I am a passionate learner. If it's out there, I want to learn about it. I know weird health stuff and I can (and currently do) teach about natural health issues -- including tissue mineral analysis, nutritional counseling, etc. I work with cancer, diabetes, cholesterol, virus, and anything officially undiagnosed. I propose natural therapies for health problems. I also do name studies and artwork based on the meaning of people's names.

Like so many other posters, I am in full support of this effort and anticipating the fellowship of Ejectia.



JUST finished momentarily catching up on the intros... Man, WHAT A GROUP!!!

My optimism continues, and grows.

I do want to take a moment, and thank one more time all of you who HAVE served, ARE serving, and WILL serve in the armed forces and the "first responder" roles of this civilization. It's been said before, and it's SOOOOOoooooooo true... Collectively, we can never repay the debt owed to YOU.

A very special Thank You, and the WARMEST possible Welcome Aboard!!! You bring honor to us all.

An observation... how heartening it is to see so many "first-time posters" here, too!!! I was one myself, just a little while ago... Bill gave me the courage to "get on with it..." and I do not regret it for one moment.

A special Welcome for YOU, too!!!



Remarkable to see the mass of humanity that has gathered here thus far...

My name's Andrew, I'm 27 years old and I can only do a few things well: look, listen and learn. I hope to be able to do a lot of each in the coming months.

Oh, and I can work with Macs or PCs, I can take decent photos with a point-and-shoot digital camera, and I can make my 11-year-old sister (or almost any other younger child) laugh almost at will. I'd like to think I can write, but reading work from the likes of Bill Whittle has taught me that I have a long way to go before I can consider that.

Maybe now I'll have to come up with one of those fancy aliases now... :)



I'm a comeover from Misha's site.

I can train a dog to track, and to do various other things, by designing a training plan and breaking the task into small steps. I have trained two German Shepherd Dogs in the sport of Schutzhund. One is has attained her Schutzhund III title; the other is titled Schutzhund I, with SchH II and SchH III on the way.

I can perform triage-level repairs on Windows-based computers (hardware and software), but am non-current on my skills for anything more involved than that.

I have taught various people to shoot rifles and pistols. I can reload my own ammunition.

If I sit here longer, I will think of more and more things I can do. I'll bet everyone else has had to edit their posts for length, as I have done.

This is an idea whose time has come.



Remnant prophet. Hmm. That can be a tough business, I think.

I recall Jeremiah's Lamentations: torn as by wild beasts, bones broken, rotting flesh, imprisoned, beaten, betrayed, poisoned; and that was just by his God. The good citizens of Jerusalem didn't do him any better. (Not much of a fantasy heaven in his religious economy, perhaps.)

When I found Whittle's Tribes article 2-3 years back I was so excited I read it to my wife, word by word. Bill's stuff can be a clarion in the blog fog, especially after someone has been walking around for a few decades wondering what happened to reason and orderly thought, intellectual honesty and emotional courage, nobility and beauty. Finding Bill let me see that I wasn't the only one thinking over questions that no one in my circle apparently wanted the answers to, anyway. Now it looks like there may be a whole lot more folks here also inclined to so "waste" their time having unpopular thoughts as our civilization seemingly, slowly collapses.

I don't really understand what Bill Whittle has in mind with this thing. But I'll toss my (real) name in.

I do a lot of things really well, both practical tool-handling kind of tasks and intellectual doings. Better to say what I definitely don't do (nor expect to do) well: accounting, chemistry, medicine, advanced materials fabrication, languages other than English, engineering, and haircuts. And I'd like to learn to weld, repair auto bodies, and fly a single engine airplane. And I can teach with patience and love.

Right now I am wrapping up my 2nd year of law school (University of Washington), preparing for what I expect will undergird the work that "takes me out." The law, too, seems infected with the cowardice, double-talk, and greed that riddles our society a little more every year. But I still think law is a key human endeavor--much that is good can still be done. Or so I hope. Otherwise I'll build and remodel houses, landscape yards, consult on digital data and network security infrastructure, plan for disaster, become a better gun-handler, write on topics that, again, nobody in my circle much cares about, and take long, long camping tours on my sport and sport-touring motorcycles. And love my wife. And watch Mr. Whittle's odd idea, and ask what I can do to help hold the pieces of our floundering nation together for a few extra minutes.

Bill, thanks for that opportunity, a couple of years back, to read a brand new thing to my wife.

Veritas vos liberabit (tho' one sure may live to regret it).



cj - ima mommy: Here I am again, reading as many posts as my over loaded brain can handle, when I saw my name (unusual spelling) and read your post. I think you and I are very much on the same wave length. That motherly thing runs deep, doesn't it?

It's exciting to see words such as yours; I believe it took a certain amount of courage just to post here amongst all of these specatcular souls and maybe that is what you (and I) have to add. A little courage backed up with a lot of heart never hurt any situation. Don't you agree?

I've buried my head in the sand and done the LaLa song rather sheepishly too at times, but there is strength in numbers and there's nothing like finding others who have such similar beliefs.

Welcome to you and everyone else who stands true to their convictions.



Bill & Everyone,

Name is Manny - like to keep myself anonymous at this stage. I live in Sydney, Australia.

I work in a global consulting firm and provide quant finance support - mainly in the valuation of derivatives and risk quantification for Banking groups.

My political leanings are socially and economically conservative. However, I have to say that in implementation, I am socially libertarian (in that I don't think you can legislate morality) and economically conservative.

Currently reading a few books. Pet topics include Islamofascism and the West's struggle against it and Climate Change. Both of these topics feature heavily on my blog.

I have to say, that I have been blown away by the way in which you crystalise ideas into words and your powerful writing style. I suggested to a mate that you should be nominated for a Nobel Prize in literature.

Keep up the good work! And look forward to reading your take on Climate Change in "Seeing the Unseen - Part 3".



To Bill Whittle:
I am an Australian Pharmacist who regularly visits all sites I can re anti Islamists.
I also have a farm and I can teach animal husbandry in temperate zones( we dont shed our cows in winter) breeding of livestock, cows, chickens, Turkeys(very difficult) and how to maintain a vegetable garden in the face of onlaught fom feral wallaby and possums.
Oh and I am an accredited expert in drug side effects so any help I can give is more than welcome to be distributed.I am an avid reader and commenter on the site "Patdollad.com" and "faithfreedom.org" and I usually fall into "eject!etc" from other sites that recognise you as a real leader.
As for the remnants.Count me in, Im good for mechanical expertise and welding structures, and building small structures.The essays gave me goosebumps cause I suppose that I already knew this from insid me. Any other essays eg on the climate change fraud ill be welcome



Just a small point; for the last 8 years or so, I've been trying to get some land cheap(!) in Arizona to build a haven for Science-Fiction fans and their associates: SCAdians, Pagans, etc. For more info, Google-search on "Fan-Haven". For that matter, go ahead and search on me: Leslie Fish. I'm a Filksinger -- a folksinger who specializes in Science-Fiction folkmusic, if ya please (talk about specialties!), and I can teach music. I've heard for the past few years that the wealthier Libertarians are trying to move into New Hampshire until there are enough of them to take over the state govt. and make a Libertarian state, to which I say good luck; but what about those of us who aren't that wealthy and live at the other end of the country? Well, I started the Fan-Haven project as a mining-claim, which is just about as cheap as you can get land. What if a bunch of us could obtain and settle just a small township, to live in and survive on and hopefully build some sustaining businesses on? Even a small town for decent and logical people would be better than nothing. Us poorer folks have to start small, but we can start.

--Leslie



Hi, I'm Remo and I'm in.

Thank you for this essay, Bill. I have been Remnant all my life. I'm a blogger and on the exact same frequency - Ejectia seems like my kind of place and I already love all the people who have commented so far :)

This is not my real name but my Second Life name, and I agree with others that Ejectia should be in that world too. Makes it easy to meet if nothing else. I'm an island owner and rent land - will gladly share what experience I have if (when) we establish a presence there. And Krashen, I joined your group.

I'm a Swede. It is with immense pleasure I say that I will become an American: next year I will move with my family to somewhere in the US. Don't yet know where since I just landed that dream job. So any translation you need, I'm your man.

What else... I work in institutional asset management (fixed income) since many years and am a good, no-nonsense technical analyst. I can teach you how to read a chart to make investment decisions.

What do I wish to learn? How to shoot a gun. Any skills in that area appreciated.

That's about it for now.



GatesOfFire: What you say may be true, but I would assert that no signpost goes unnoticed here...



Terry, Leslie, Remo, WELCOME aboard!!! Great to have you along on this... adventure? No, not good enough, but you know what I mean... Glad to meet ya'



Hi Leslie!

Do I recall seeing your name associated with the Firefly series or the "Done the Impossible" DVD? Sorry, all the fanfic, filk and flouridated fluff I've digested over the years is jumbled pretty badly now.

In any case, your idea is nicely outside-the-box! I like it!! The New Hampshire group you're referring to, I think, is the Free State Project. There's some similarity between the notion of Ejectia! and their non-virtual efforts, I think. I've been eyeing it as a productive excuse to get further from the NYC nuclear fallout drift region. At present, we're far too close (to NYC) and at the rate our "leaders" have appeased those who would destroy western civilization, that scenario has gone from "fantasy to "likely" just a tad too quickly for my comfort.

BTW - Firefly should be required viewing for all Ejectians, IMHO. Netflix is your friend! Or you could just break down and buy two or three copies of the DVD set (they make great gifts).



Good morning.

Keeping up with the posts by those interested in the Whittle Experience is an adventure in itself.

Another thing to add to our resume, we are in the beginnings of breeding a new dog to America.
There are so far only 3 in the state of Texas. Karelian Bearhounds. Originating from Finland, these dogs are invaluable as working dogs, hunters and great companions to humans. Black and white as members of the spitz family they can do many jobs such as pulling sleds or carts. They are being used to manage the grizzly bears in the Rocky mts at this time, as well as being used for moose, elk and deer hunting dogs. In the home they are perfect, intelligent, people oriented once they've bonded and you in some cases will not need a gun to protect you from intruders if they are aggressive. We are learning about these dogs daily and like what we're seeing. Our veterinarian likes handling them as they are tolerant of being prodded, poked and stuck.
More later. :)



Good Morning, everyone. I am still in awe, and a bit disoriented. I feel like I'm still reacting more than guiding. Trying to really find my focus. I appreciate those who have encouraged me. I'm riding the thundering chair and scared. That you all are continuing to arrive in such number and of such conviviality is breathtaking and exciting.



(Hope this doesn't double post. Sorry if it does...)

Hi Leslie!

Do I recall seeing your name associated with the Firefly series or the "Done the Impossible" DVD? Sorry, all the fanfic, filk and flouridated fluff I've digested over the years is jumbled pretty badly now.

In any case, your idea is nicely outside-the-box! I like it!! The New Hampshire group you're referring to, I think, is the Free State Project. There's some similarity between the notion of Ejectia! and their non-virtual efforts, I think. I've been eyeing it as a productive excuse to get further from the NYC nuclear fallout drift region. At present, we're far too close (to NYC) and at the rate our "leaders" have appeased those who would destroy western civilization, that scenario has gone from "fantasy to "likely" just a tad too quickly for my comfort.

BTW - Firefly should be required viewing for all Ejectians, IMHO. Netflix is your friend! Or you could just break down and buy two or three copies of the DVD set (they make great gifts).



Bill, you just had a five homer game.

I'm Dave or David. I administer EMC CLARiiON SAN disk arrays and various Unix servers for a software company in Cary, N.C., so I am something of a computer jock. :-)

Some of my interests include golf, jazz, blues, and scotch.

Glad to be aboard!



What a great idea, Bill, and what an impressive group of contributors.

I can second Dagny Taggart's recommendation of SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman. Every home should have a copy.

Also, at the risk of re-igniting the religious brushfire -- Richard Dawkins did a program for the BBC several years ago (IIRC it was called Nice Guys Finish First)--which explained the Prisoners' Dilemma in detail. It was very well produced and available on Google Videos, but seems to have disappeared.



Hi all, I'm a degenerate lurker.

I'm a female accountant in her early twenties in the 'downstate' portion of the Peoples Republic of Illinois. I'll try to swing some of my like-minded friends this way. I have some almost decade old experience in Ground Search and Rescue and martial arts(mostly Mu Duk Kwon style Tae Kwon Do). Im active in RKBA/2A concerns in Illinois, and learning more about disaster preparedness and wilderness survival.

Hope I can contribute.



Wow...all the Randian references and allusions...I love this crowd!
i might have to appropriate 'Quentin Daniels' as my nom de guerre!



Wow.

The synchronicity of my dad sending me this article on the Remnant, at this time, just blows my mind.

Homeschooling mother to 5 here. There are only a gazillion other forums for mothers on the internet. For me, getting out in real life- interacting with people in person- well, that's where the kidlets need me to focus. And a lot of the functions I deem important for smooth societal functioning- the ability to take someone a casserole for example- are hard to get done over the internet! Virtual casseroles don't fill bellies.

BUT, in the event of social collapse and the ensuing need to rebuild society, I have some skills that could be contributed. Cooking, midwifery and unassisted childbirth, social dancing, nursing and tending the young (very important for the survival of a culture and perpetuation of values!) natural health, etc.

What I'm envisioning is a backup archive of people who are willing to step up to the plate, organized geographically- so you could find someone easily who is in your town, in your real life community. People who are willing to be contacted and render assistance in an emergency or in the event of major societal breakdown.

Someone else may have already floated this idea here- I don't have time to read all the comments. But if a user emergency archive became a reality I would be interested in becoming a part of it.

I would also like to suggest that anyone who is interested in building a community of people who really care about virtue, look to the 12-step community around them. There are some strong, inspired people working in recovery and IMNSHO being part of the remnant is all about being able to recover that which is lost, and rebuilding that which is broken. And developing each person as an individual yet being able to work together as a group, and drawing strength from that group, is a large part of 12-step programs.

-Alison



Maggie,
Any dog breed that includes the word "bearhound" is too cool for words.

Leslie,
Not sure I'm ready to move to Arizona, but a weekend get-away, sort of an Ejectia Resort would be really cool. Can't wait till we have a place to post sound files so we can here some of your filksongs!

GatesOfFire,
No one who's "All In" will ever get lost here.

Mr. NB,
I loved the simile of the helium balloon.

And everyone else,
Welcome!

Sorry I've been a bit remiss in my duties as Walmart greeter here. So many stellar comments, so few brain cells.

I too am so heartened to see all the "I've never commented before", that tells me that the tuning fork has been well struck and you're feeling the sympathetic vibrations of "Remnant" in your breastbone, as did I.

Now, if you'll excuse me.

Sir! Sir! Are you going to return that? You can't make a return without my little pink sticker.
Sir!



Ejectia-2

The scope of this may seem too great,
Like a sip from a fire hose,
Where are we going with all this life?
None of us really knows.

Just be patient and stay on board,
Don�t jump ship in a stormy sea,
Stay awake and watch the waves,
You will see what your job should be.

Maintain the remnant spirit,
Ready to join the fray,
Be ready to jump when you see your light,
It could be any day.

Or it could be months before you�re called,
Who knows, it might be years,
But watch the trees as they start to grow,
Show your support with your cheers.

And sometimes in the dead of night,
When the road ahead looks dim,
Don�t worry about a listing ship,
We have folks who can teach you to swim.

(With apologies to real poets)
MJ



MJ, your timing is sublime, and your message helpful to me. Thank you.



MJ,
Brilliant!

Give us a chorus.

Leslie?
Music?




I think I've found my tribe!

I reside in So Cal and am currently getting ready to homeschool the second generation of children in my family.

I am very interested in the type of support system that Alison/Crunchymama suggests.



Lots of experience in commerical credit and finance. Decent financial analyst. Mortgage lending.

Sheepdog orientation. Enjoy maintenance, firearms, motorcycles and communion with decent people.

This thread has been like a drink of cool, sweet water at the end of a long, hot day.

I would be honored to be among this group.



My name is Walt, I'm an American currently living in Oz (Australia, that is). Found this site from the Rott (hello, Misha). As for me, I'm a retired Army Reserve officer, a student of history, and have some knowledge of several European and East/Southeast Asian languages. I've spent a lot of time overseas in my life, mostly as a civilian, and can function in societies that most Americans would find quite alien. I'm a good shot with anything from a 9mm pistol to a compound bow to a .50 cal machine gun (yes, I can teach shooting). I also tend to be good at problem-solving and have a very practical mind. Professionally, I'm trained as an accountant, but have a very specific focus in my work (I'm not the guy you call to do your taxes, but rather if you think someone is embezzling from your company). Count me in.



LabRat: Camaros are good things. I had the pure joy of seeing/hearing an ex-Roger Penske Trans-Am Sunoco Camaro at a vintage race at VIR. I have *never* heard a small block Chevy (Traco 302) make the kind of noise this car made on the front straight. Sounded like he was turning 10K rpms!

Leslie: Spider Robinson?

David B: Howdy neighbor!



Greetings and Salutations to my new friends of the Remnant. I am Jerry and am a Major in the Marine Corps. I know a little about the military and am a lawyer in my civilian job. Not sure if that will be of assistance but I'll try and help anyway I can. Nonetheless, I am very excited. Thanks to all.



The Prisoner's Dilemma was explained very well by, I think, Poul Anderson. He used a point system to explain it. I can't remember the exact numbers he used but this is close. If both were nice each got four points. If one was nice and one screwed the nice one the nice one got zero and the screwer got five points. If both screwed the other each got one point.

I think it illustrates the benefits of a go nice first, but retaliate to a screwing pretty well. If anyone can remember the original example it would probably be better but this is the best I can do.

He used a pair of people who started out nice but retaliated to a screwing and a pair that always screwed the other. He had one nice guy go against each of the bad guys then against the other nice guy each round had several interactions.

It worked out like this:

The first go round the first nice guy faced the first bad guy. The first interaction the nice guy went nice and the bad guy did what they do, he screwed him over.

result: nice guy 0 bad guy 5

next go round the nice guy screwed the bad guy who again screwed the nice guy.

result both got one point for a total of nice guy 1 bad guy 6

third go round same as second, resulting in both getting one point total: nice guy 2 bad guy 7

fourth round same at the second and third, total: nice guy 3 bad guy 8

Next he faced the second bad guy with the same results, the nice guy picked up three more points for a total of six and the second bad guy picked up eight points.

At this point the good guy has had two rounds and lost both. Then he faced the other good guy, both were nice the first go round and both got four points, the first now had 10 points and the second 4

The other three interactions with the second nice guy went exactly the same way, both picked up 12 points for a result of first nice guy 22 points second nice guy 16 points.

Then the second nice guy went up against the two bad guys with the same results as the first, he received six points for the interactions and each of the bad guys picked up eight totals: second nice guy with 22 points and each of the bad guys with 16.

When the bad guys go up against each other they screw each other and get an additional four points leaving them with a total of 20 points each against the nice guys total of 22 each.



David Beatty,

Glad to meetcha! Jazz? One comment - Duke Ellington, Live at the Blue Note. 2 disc set. If you don't own it, you NEED to.

Scotch? My MAN! What do you like? I don't get to NC very often, but if you're in SoCal, look me up!



The first thing I thought of when I read this essay was The Dangerous Book for Boys, ( http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Book-Boys-Conn-Iggulden/dp/0061243582/ )which I bought for my two year old (okay, I bought it for me.) It's a cool book which shows you how to make paper airplanes, treehouses, tripwires, a bow-and-arrow and has all kinds of information that adds up to a nice grounding in being a kid.

As for what I'm good at, I know a little bit (just enough to be dangerous) about a lot of things, but not much I could teach. I know how to change a radiator in a Ford 8N tractor by myself, how to grout a tub, how not to set a tub, how not to value a business you're going to buy, and how to change a diaper.

I'm in.



Music - I am a pianist and composer. See my blog and comment on a haiku. Enough said!



I'm Mike and I stand with you.
Master of nothing skilled in problem solving (Lord knows i've had enough of them).
I'm looking foward to your success in this endever.
--Mike in Chicago



NevadaDailySteve: Yeah, the 'nice guys' don't Win Really Huge Really Fast, but they build on each other, and their goodwill creates a positive sum game that causes them to in the long run more or less destroy the 'bad guys'.



Pierre wrote:
Sheepdogs...Hmmm. Maybe we should realize that there is a bit of the sheepdog in all of us. We just need to let him out when its required . . . So don't fear if you don't think of yourself as a sheepdog, just do the right thing when it matters. Don't turn away. Be aware of your surroundings. Watch everything. Question it all. Don't be a sheep chewing on your grass ignoring the world.

It's sometimes very hard to figure out when to let your sheepdog out, and whether, indeed, you're capable of doing so. I know that I occasionally wonder whether I have the ability to live up to my ideals, or whether I'll just run away when I'm called. It doesn't help that so many of the people around us cower in the face of bomb threats, tell their kids to stay down and simply do what they're told, and rely on the Authorities (teachers, police, firemen, security officers, etc.) rather than act. Now, I realize that in some cases an untrained person is more of a liability than someone who knows what they're doing; that sometimes increases the confusion of my own inner sheepdog (I suppose the best compromise is to offer to help the Authorities if there are any around . . .). But I read about bomb threats and schools going into "lockdown" because someone wrote an angry note, and I shake my head. I look at the photographs of sobbing parents, so scared because their kids might have been hurt by some unknown party, and wonder why they aren't angry that someone might have tried to hurt their kids in the first place. It's completely a reaction to a threat - to a potential tragedy - instead of a chance to step up and defend their children, and to teach their children to defend themselves.

Pierre also wrote:
Tracked a woman who had hit and run a mother and baby. We went all over the city...her looking back over her shoulder in her car with the baby carriage dragging under the front bumper and me talking to the police with my cell. Finally the police caught up with us and we cornered her in a gas station. She is serving time. People called me a hero but I dont believe that qualifies. Heroic means risking your life...I wasnt doing that. I was simply being a citizen.

That is fabulous. Really awesome. I'd tip my hat in tribute if I wore a hat. But I don't, so I can't.

I suppose that the best way to cultivate the sheepdog inside is to be constantly on the watch for things to get involved with, for people to talk to, for opportunities to help or contribute even if they're none of your business. Do it occasionally, and it'll be easier to do when something big comes along.



Ah...... the benefits of a classical education. To see past the fluoride induced haze and find what you were seeking.
My name is Tom and I've been a practicing reflexologist for years and managed to teach it on the internet. I'm not a "teacher" but I can explain complicated things as though they were simple concepts. I think that may be my strength... to read between the lines and interpret what I see. I practice ayurvedics and herbology and have many health promoting plants on my property, which I take great advantage of. Although I'm far from an expert in health sciences, I still know more than most and I'm always willing to share what I know and learn what I don't. I also have a fondness for tobacco and rum and a fierce love for American individual independence and I'm organizing a trip to Key West to witness the end of time and space as we know it on 2012. I can also rebuild a VW type III engine with my eyes closed. I can help you get rid of that migrane headache. Just ask, ok?



First time poster.

Awesome idea.

47 years of Life Experience, including Military (U.S. Army), Defense Contractor (RC-135's), and Customer Service/Service Industry expertise.

It pleases me to no end to see (and FEEL!) others who are on the same wavelength.

Count me in.



Hi Honey, I'm HOME.
I'm in.
I've got skills to offer to help too. Early child behavior and development, to Aphasia.(sorry, that's so fraggin glib).
I was a Speech Pathologist, certified and licenced,in Home Health, 35 yrs. I would rather give back for free, than work under clerks who try to cause me 'not to do it right'. Clerks would limit us in # of visits by what happened, and not by how the patient is healing.
I was a hippie in the day, Earth Mother, I grow veggies and herbs for that lonely olive, and I can use the juice for something... Have a huge library of how to books, and the smarts to get my husband and grown sons to use them. (Actually I putter in food growing.)
I feel like a braggart, and don't like it, but trust me, I'll help. If it helps, My husband and I met at the short airing of Ayn Rands Courtroom drama, at the Penthouse theater in NYC in early 70's. My Wedding present to him was an autographed copy of Atlas.



JerryB,
TXMarco,

Thank you for your service sirs. Pull up a chair.

Whoops, gettin' crowded in here.

Take mine.



Gabby 9:44

What's this wat-ter thing you're talking about? Never heard of it.

Hey, Chase! You got any wat-ter? Cool and sweet?

I know the feeling, man. I just use a different beverage as my metaphor.

Welcome!



DaddyQ, looks like we're gonna have to knock out a wall and expand again, eh?



Gabby,
Wat-ter was meant to imply a speech impediment on my part, not a typo on yours.

Plus I like to quaff: Only Ale can be quaffed.

Quaffing water just doesn't have that whole Viking/Pirate/Remnant kind of feel about it.



Woo, two comments in the space of ten minutes!

At this point, the information from "You Are Not Alone" has been assimilated and scattered throughout my brain and bits and pieces of it will probably crop up at strange times. But I remember the gist of the article and what you said was true, honest, good, and it needed to be said.

I am only 25, but I offer two decades and a half of a life that is unique to say the least. I am almost completely blind, I am an artist, a story teller, I have a unique mind (thanks to attention deficit disorder (AD/HD or ADD)), I've lived in the country and in the city, grown up with farmers, ranchers and a single mother who would do anything for her children. I quit college after five years of struggling because I realized that my time is better spent elsewhere. And I spent four months working at Walt Disney World Resorts. I am eclectic in everything and inconsistent. I am always learning and my mind is never still. My favorite things are knowing that I've made someone laugh, smile or pause to think; knowing that I have introduced something new into someone's life and that this new thing will change them and the people around them, even just a little. I am a contradiction in the strangest ways.

I don't know of what use I am in particular, just that I am useful and can make a difference in general. And that's exactly what I want to do. The skills that I have, known, unknown, and/or underused, I offer to those who would like them. I will do what I can when I am able. All anyone has to do is ask.



Hi all, I'm a 60 yr old Railroad engineer. I can and have taught my trade to others but you'll have to supply engine. Been reading your stuff for years Bill and always find you on point. Rick



Razz,
Two excellent comments in 10 minutes. I am sure there will come a time when your skill set is needed in Ejectia! Artists and storytellers are always welcome.
Plus, your feedback on content access for the sight impaired will be of great help.

(I almost said insight) Dougman, get out of my head!

Welcome!



Great... now I have to force feed everyone I care about "you are not alone" until they hate me... Great.

Seriously though Bill, you have a gift and you're using it well, and I'm jealous.



Howdy, y'all! My name's Steve, and I live in the great state of NC. My wife and myself have been foster parents for over 18 years now, and we've fostered 85+ kids in that time. We've adopted four of those kids, so with the three we had between us when we got married, I'm dad to seven wonderful children. In my checkered past, I've worked in textiles, retail, farming, and for the past 25 years or so have worked for lawyers in various technical and bookkeeping roles. I'm 51 years old and read Bill's essays religiously. I don't know exactly what I can bring to the table for Ejectia, Bill, unless you count being a caregiver for medically fragile infants for the past ten years or so a necessary skill, but SIGN ME UP! It's good to find out that you're not alone!



Ricarbo,
With the quality of folks that seem to be attracted here, it wouldn't surprise me at all for someone to step up and say, "I've got a train!"

Welcome!



Ricarbo
Daddyquatro
Um...We have a train here in Romney. It's called the Potomac Eagle. It does scenic tours through the Wesbygod Mountains, has a dining car and 2 open observation cars, plus regular coaches. They will be running murder/mystery excursions throughout the summer. It is occasionally attacked by Rebel Partisans. I hear that they are looking for a steam engine to replace the current Diesel(?). If the pub is open, I'll take a Paulaner Oktoberfest.
Cheers
Svin



Bill - Thank you for your website. I'm a long time reader, first time commenter.

I would like to contribute two things I have been thinking about lately, along the same lines as your recent blog entry. They are Honor and God.

HONOR: Our society is floundering at the moment due to a lack not only of personal honor, but the lack of requiring it in others. You explained the results of this very clearly in the Prisoner's Dilemma. But, it is also evident in a current idea that one need not bear a personal basis/burden of proof for one's allegations. Politicians, media personnel, doctors, and marketers all the way down to the clerk at the store routinely stake their personal integrity and honor on statements they either know to be false or wish to be true. The average person is left with the task of determining whether the statement is true, because the speaker is not taken to task when they are shown to have spoken before verifying their facts. This is why sites like snopes.com, wikipedia.com, and webmd.com are so heavily trafficked.

I think a whole essay should be written on this, but I don't have the space here. I would like to introduce you to Orson Scott Card, who touches on this at a national level at Ornery.org in this article: http://ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2007-04-01-1.html His website is another one that I regularly frequent to refuel my sense of solidarity with the other Remnants.

GOD: Way too much has been debated recently about removing "In God We Trust" and "Under God" from public displays and communication. When I have a belief in God, I recognize that someone has an idea how things should work, and that someone is not me. Science is very useful for us to determine how things work and should work, but many scientists are sidetracked by thinking they have figured it all out already. This is why Global Warming, although the study is in its infancy, is widely accepted as obvious fact. Scientists are working to find the pieces to force the puzzle together, rather than working to determine if the cardboard cutouts they are looking at are even a puzzle. Believing that humans can be inspired, by whatever God you personally choose, leads people to look inward and have faith in their own decisions. This leads to confidence and action. It is also a huge motivator for the "Forgiveness" that you touched on. I agree that every group will have those within it that just want to be a part of the group, and aren't fully engaged. Thus, every group, even religions, will have some trouble-makers. But, just as Isaiah went out to find those who would join the people of God, there is strength in uniting and working together.

I look forward to Ejectia. I suggest there be clear divisions between what people want to find there, so that it is easy to navigate and not confusing. For example, those that want to chat should have a separate location from those that want to debate. Keep up the good work, everyone.



Glad to meet you. I'm Doug. I am a trainer by profession, so I know how to teach. What I am paid to train is graphic editing software applications, but I can teach anything that I'm good at and even some things I'm not so good at.

What I'm good at:
Algebra
Photography
sports (Baseball, Football, Basketball, Tennis, Tae Kwon Do)

What I'm not so good at but can still teach:
Guitar

What I'd like to know (or be able to do) but currently don't:
Spanish
Violin



Svinrod,
I knew IT!

Do you think they would rent it out so Ricarbo could give us lessons?



I'm Dan from the western slope of Colorado. I'm full of useful and not-so-useful info.

I'm a painting contractor and artist, as well as a pragmatic survivalist. I have a lot of experience in the outdoors, from hunting and fishing to wild crafting edible and medicinal plants. I use to be a hippie, but like the guy who was tuned into a newt, I got better.

I once built a gravity-feed fuel pump for my old Chevy with a honey can and some gum (plus some other stuff) when it died on the side of an Oregon mountain.

I don't like groups, but this one seems fine to me.

I can teach it if I now about it, and you want to learn about it.



First time poster ever. I'm in, gladly.

Bill, your essay is my first exposure to your incredible talent of writing in a way that makes complicated concepts understandable. Can't wait to read all of your works. Thank you!

The caliber of comments here makes them a joy to read. Truly a remarkable forum with exceptional people. An honor to meet you.

Hi folks. Dan here. 67, a semi-retired investor, have had 48 jobs throughout the years, and am certain that I can contribute something to this effort.

Looking forward to participating.




To all the new visitors,
If you have yet to click the link on the sidebar to Rachel Lucas you must hasten there forthwith. You will find a like-minded individual who speaks truth to asshatery. If Bill is steak and potatoes, then Rachel is the banana split.

A little taste...
Speaking about American Idol (Don't laugh some people like bologna)

But Jordin, damn her, was awesome and made Blake look like a chump, especially on the final "special new" song.
Which, by the way, was a piece of shit song. That thing won a contest? Are you kidding me? I almost passed out from the sheer weight of my nonplussed-ness.

Nobody! But! Rachel!



Dan from Silt,

Ding! Ding! Ding!
Monty Python reference!

100 bonus points for you sir!



Thankee. Can those points be redeemed for Redhook ESB?



Dan from Silt,
I'm assuming that's a libation?

If it is, you will be amazed at the beer/wine/fine spirits available at Chase's

The virtual world does have its advantages.
The actual consuming of potent potables is a little more problematic.



Hooray! A glimmer in the night this is! Strike the chord of the remnants' folk song, you have.
Challenged by trying times, those of good will must find a way to espouse what makes our civilization great -- and worth defending.
I will be glad to do my small part, and will return to share what little I can offer to such a worthy endeavor.
If not now, then when, will we defend our society, against the tangible rot from within?



OK, what's Chase's? If it's not in the Northeast it'll have to wait until I can arrange travel, and I'm no longer on some surgeon's convenience list.

But if it's anywhere near Princeton, NJ I'm in. Even if I have to buy what the Canadians still call "petrol."



sigh...

i miss dougman

...sigh



The Chase Lounge is located right off Ejectia town square. However, due to an unfortunate circumstance, the front window has a stunning view of the butt of the Dougman statue. I'll have to check with the management on his non-alcoholic offerings. I know he has free 7-up on Sunday.


Posted by: daddyquatro | May 20, 2007 8:13 AM

Our virtual bar.
and Grill?
I can make a mean pizza.
Maybe we need to bring in a set of pizza ovens.



To Leslie Fish:

Greetings from Albuquerque! I have a daughter who just graduated from high school and a son who is a Freshman there. When he is out, I'm planning to move. I would like to consider a less "virtual" version of this project, and your comments about putting together a "homestead" in Arizona intrigue me. If you can provide more information about what and where you are considering, I would appreciate it. You can use the link I have attached to my name. It is a thread in a blog that was not intended for this purpose, but it's what is at hand ...



daddyquatro and Chase - have we ever determined the decor of the Lounge? Would it be better for daddyquatro to bring in new shiny stainless steel pizza ovens, or would building our own wood-fired stone oven be more fitting?



D4, Is there an update to Dougman's status? Don't tell me I am responsible for my own mistakes. Tell me the earth stopped rotating but not that Dougman is gone... I neeeeed Dougman!



Wayne,
Though I've heard that a wood fired, brick oven is the way to go...
Dude this IS the 21st century! I turn the knob, and sweet, sweet natural gas flows.
Whoooosh! The flame!
You have to start the fire at least two hours before opening. Optimum temperature, 550-575. The slate(that's what I cooked on) has to be hot. Otherwise, you get a soggy crust. Can't STAND soggy crust.

You pick up the pizza with a peel, or paddle. You slide it in and, with a little pull at the wrist, you place it in the perfect cooking spot.

There are good spots and bad spots in any oven. You get to know where they are after time.
Half way through cooking time, (you did set your mental timer, didn't you?) you spin the pie 180 degrees. While you're doing that you pull it up front, lift it up using the fingernail of your middle finger and check the bottom. If it's a little too brown, you put it back on a cooler part of the slate.
When you hear that mental Ding! You pull the pie out of the oven and slide it onto the cutting board.
Your cuts should be FOR REAL!
Nothing worse than a pizza that hasn't been cut all the way through..
You come down hard on the outer crust and maintain the pressure all the way through 'till you break the outer crust.
And the slices should be even. Ain't no "I get the big piece" in my place. All the pieces will be the same size.
Here, the cutting depends on the size.
Small...
6 pieces...
Kind of tricky...
Make a cut...
Choose the 1/3 point..
Make another.
What's left, cut in half.

Medium....
8 Pieces...
That's easy...
Cut...
Rotate 90 degrees...
Cut again.
The quarters that are left, cut in half.

Large...
12 pieces...
Do the cut, do the ninety.
Each of the quarters must be cut in thirds.

Pick up the cutting board in your right hand, the appropriate sized pan in your left. (Or reversed for you special people)
Push-Pull with the cutting board hand: Catch with the pan hand.
Place your perfect pizza on the counter.
Call out, "Order up!"
Rinse and repeat, 100 times an hour.
That's what I love.
That's what I could teach.
And, if it could pay the bills, that's what I would do.

But really, Chase, you decide.

D4/Stan



D4, I get the impression you have done a lot of time with the whole "pizza" thing. My brother, who has 5 kids, tells me the volume of pizza consumed by a family has a logrithmic relathionship to the # of children. Are you talking from experience here?



UQ,
I'm talking from I have my old pizza paddle hanging on the wall in my garage.

I did the restaurant thing for 10 years.

Trust me, the rants are coming.

D4/Stan



D4, I keep missing you. I am welcoming over on the other thread. UM



Hey, all!!!
Just want to drop by, and send a BIG welcome out to all the new posters!!!

WELCOME!!!

And, where is Dougman?!?!?

D4, where is Dougman?!??!?

PLEASE, D4, WHERE....
passed out, shallow breathing... initial stages of utter, defenseles, panic.



It's almost like the people coming out of the sewers at the end of "Demolition Man" around here... and that's a very good thing!

I'm definitely in, Bill. I've had a wide variety of jobs in my adult life and learned a lot about many things. Unfortunately I still haven't found my "perfect fit", although I'm currently attempting to get a sign business running with a partner.

Thanks for putting these thoughts into words. It's an amazing feeling when one reads their deepest thoughts and feelings written by a person they've never met. This particular journey looks to be extremely interesting, and one I do not wish to miss.



The only TV show on the Remnant (Jericho) has been canceled.

I know a little bit about a host of subjects, and have teacher in my blood several generations back.

Am reading _Gates of Fire_ with my 14yo son, so love the Pressfield quote.

Here's to the edification of a better polis!



"The only TV show on the Remnant (Jericho) has been canceled."

Hmmm... Jack Bauer? I mean, 24's pretty much gone to the dogs, but Jack qualifies, I think.

And don't forget Paula Deen!



Good morning to all.
Sitting here with my cup of tea perusing the latest who've joined in the beginnings of a great effort.
It makes one feel much better to know none of us are alone.
Another addition to the resume, husband is a good bow hunter and could teach it.
And speaking of cars, we own a '92 RS Camaro , the engine has just been rebuilt, part of the restoration effort on it. Huzzah!



Bill, your essay is eye-opener extraordinary. As for your request about first measures of self-help in case dirt-bomb attack, I can provide important practical advice. It is not theoretical. My wife has experienced this type of accident when she was a young girl living at nuclear facility at Urals in 1956; it was uranium enrichment plant. More than 300 tonnes of ammonia nitrate with nuclear waste accidently detonated 2 km away from her parents home, and dozens of sq. km of taiga were contaminated. They were not evacuated and lived here for two years after, following instructions.
1). Your first and even the only hazard is dust. Fist hours and days are the most important. IMMEDIATELY shut all the windows and seal them by scotch tape. Have plenty of this stuff at hand in your house. Doors too should be sealed by tape. Keep your house or some room in it as air-tight as you can.
2) Do wet cleaning of floor and walls several times a day. All surfaces should be cleaned by wet cloth or wet tissue paper as often as possible. Wet vacuum-cleaner greatly enchances efficiency, this is the most desirable appliance for such emergency.
3) Avoid leaving house without extreeme need. If you need, use a car with all windows tightly shut. Make emergency stock of bottled water and canned products. All other products should be always stored in air-tight jugs. Use respirator every time you open the door, go out or clean home after opening windows or doors untill all dust is wet-cleaned.
3) Have many plastic bags at home, of different sizes. Clothes, bed sheets and towels should be kept in these sealed bags. Those that were exposed to open air must be washed and sealed in bags. Do not hang any washing on string on the open - wet fabric soak the dust wery fast. Dry them in drying mashine. If you have not one, buy it.
4) This regime should be kept untill the area is not decontaminated or evacuated. That can require several days, and more, if local autorites behave as inept as in "Katrina" case. A canister of a liquid detergent is a good investment. If shower is functioning, use it several times a day. These simple measures can reduce radiation dose orders of magnitude.
5)Drink only bottled water and consume only hermetically sealed foods. Internal irradiation is much worse than external: alpha-sources are harmful only if consumed.

After Chernobyl accident we telephoned to our friends in Kiev and told them these rules; it turned out that nobody knew anything about them. Since this type of attack on American soil is the most probable, this astounds me that authorities did nothin to inform population about so simple and efficient preventive measures.



Dani Chaffin. Stepmother, wife, grandmother to 4 amazing grandgirls that deserve to grow up in the potential of America.
I am a physical therapist, working at our community hospital with chronic back and neck pain. I teach ergonomics and pain management, exercises and prevention. I have a passion for wellness but find it difficult to promote in our " quick fix" culture.
I study apologetics and worldviews also, Christian.
I'm new in the blog world and so am looking forward to the organization that mathman and the librarians offered! I can teach you how to set up those workstations, but I'm worthless at one!
I found this site by googling "Responsibility" for a class I am teaching. Very insightful and I agree that our concept of responsibility is one of the core values that divide us.
I am on every known fundraising list and poll in America, respond to way fewer than I did early on! Slow learner I guess you could say, but I believe in the remnant.
We live in Colorado on small acreage, ride horses for pleasure. My husband is a mechanic with great problem solving skills, amazing horse trainer with pretty spoiled big guys in the pasture.
Thanks for the opportunity.



This is a catching idea. I seem to see more references where ever I look. This might be due to...? Who knows, but I think there may be more of us out there than one can imagine.

Vigilant Freedom Blog



Razz-

Welcome and thank you for joining our ranks.

With statements like this: "I am almost completely blind, I am an artist..." I am proud to say that I am rubbing elbows with yet another extraordinary human being.

Ah the randomness of it all...



Ding!Ding!Ding!

Karyn you are lucky commenter number 600! What do we have for her Bob?

Bob?



Employed Military Historian
Former CDC ERC
Former Armor Officer, military static-line parachutist, cavalry scout.
Cook, bottle washer, and grandchild spoiler.



Hi,

I am a military historian too, though I just returned from a tour in Iraq with my Navy intel hat on. I'm a good archives researcher (particularly the National Archives), halfway decent writer and a teacher, but I'd be clueless if I had to build a house. Glad to meet everybody!



Jack'O: I've been trying to size up the online MMH program at Norwich U. Gotten some very positive feedback from one student who is about finished with it. Any knowledge of this?



I am Reverend Josh. I work with those who have chronic mental illness. I know what I know and I am here to help. Happy to have your acquaintances.



Hi,

I teach and learn every day in my job - I am a distributed engineering consultant (mid-tier infrastructure mostly). Networks, servers, security, data protection, large scale IT projects, etc. More importantly, I'm an avid gardener, reader, writer and listener.

I'm not a survivalist, I'm not an alarmist, I'm not a pessimist, I'm not a fatalist, but I am scared shitless for this country of ours.

I went to Mr. Jefferson's University and there is nothing so intense as sitting on the grounds and trying to take it all in - what he believed and stood for, and the fundamental questions answered during the founding of this country.

It is very encouraging to read all the comments above, it gives me hope for us all.



Dan from Silt,

I'll be out your way, well south-central at least, in about a week. Be there for two weeks which is not nearly long enough but maybe I could buy you a Redhook?

Don



Darn!!!

You people are playing Holy Heck with my productivity, what with trying to keep track of all the new folks logging on, and all the high quality comments. Thinks there's any way I can bill my clients for reading Bill's blog? Nah, I didn't think so, either.

I find it interesting that I continue to be SO JAZZED about Ejectia and the possibliities of what it may become - especially when I see the quality of the folks here. If we can't make something of this, with THIS talent pool, we should all have our butts kicked.

I also noticed (no surprise) that we have a lot of ex and current military here. Given the weekend we are coming into, I want to:

1. Thank each and every vet and active duty troop in Ejectia, from the bottom of my heart, for your service, your sacrifice and your bravery. You ARE what is best about American, and what we of Ejectia are trying to preserve.

2. Remember all our wounded and fallen heroes and heroines, as well as our vets and active duty, in our thoughts and prayers all weekend.

3. All drinks at Chase's Lounge all weekend are free for vets and active duty servicemen and women - but each drink will be a toast to their fallen comrades.

See you at the bar!



Research chemist, history and philosophy student, musician, and Christ follower.

Truely frightened for our country. I want to help in any way I can.



Thank you so much Bill, for a most uplifting and perceptive essay.
I am an electronics engineer in my early fifties, I live in the UK, and if I am spared into retirement age, I hope to re-train to teach and encourage adults who can not read or write.
But what can I teach now? Very little, it seems.
OK, here's one to be going on with:
If you are ever dreading the prospect of giving a presentation or demonstration to a room full of strangers, the strongest and best thing you can do is to walk into that room and like those folks, all of them, right away. Don't fake it, mean it. The compassion is already inside you, all you have to do is let it loose. Don't let them sit around in soaking wet overcoats, with no drinking water or tea/coffee. Empathise. Make ad hoc arrangements for their comfort and welfare. The law of unintended consequences works.
In this case, it bolsters your own self confidence. It also helps your audience to relax and enjoy the show. And what is more, it gains you the friendship of strangers. It costs you... nothing.
Best wishes to all
Monty



Monty,

as I've always started off when leading a class on effective presentations ... remember that nobody is coming out and planning on spending time to see you fail. If they;'re here, it's becauase they're mostly on your side already.
Although all bets are off, of course, if you're a comedian, LOL.

As Steve said ... keeping up with these comments is sure taking my attention away from these long teleconferences!



Count me in, I was so excited to read this today.

Let's see, Texas based, good mother of 3 sons, fabulous gardener, good with tools and home remodelling, best cook ever, funny, conservative and loyal.

This is going to be incredible.



Everyone, great to have you. Architects are planning as we speak... as we speak! Or having beers. Not sure which! SR-71 - good to see you again, if you're the same SR-71 I knew from before...



One thing I forgot to mention Bill. The name Ejectia, for me, conjures up a vision of folk who are ready to bale out. I don't think we are like that. I reckon we are resilient, and we should "market" our ideas under some name reminiscent of perhaps the Spartans. Note that I am not promoting the desertion of newborn babies on cold mountainsides, or bare breasted wimminfolk hurling javelins. (In my young day, I used to throw the discus, with all my clothes on.)
Just an idea.
Monty



I'm on the downside of life. Time passes _so_ fast when you're on the downhill side.
Nevertheless...what do I have to offer...

I've raised kids, horses, and dairy goats. I have a BS degree in Animal Husbandry, and feel pretty comfortable in the field of anything of that nature. We also had several hives of bees for a while. I learned a lot about them which I'd be happy to pass on.

My husband retired, and decided to buy a small business. When he told me he was going to buy a lighting store, I wondered how one could make a living selling lightbulbs - what ... they come in 25,40,60,75 and 100...right? Wow - have I learned a lot since then! I had no idea what I didn't know! So...if you have a fixture with a problem, or bought a fixture and can't find the right bulb to replace the one it came with, maybe I can help. If you can figure out what you want, you can probably find it somewhere fairly close to wherever you are. You don't want to ship it if it's 4ft or longer, and even if it only weighs 6 oz, you're going to pay $5.+ for shipping. Avoid shipping if you can.
If you're puzzled by a lighting problem, email me at:
sue@varietylighting.com. Maybe I can help.



My name is Mike. I deliberately use my real given name instead of a screen name because in reading the introductory posts so far I fear that the medium (internet) that makes "Ejectia" possible can also be its downfall before it gets off the ground! Let me explain.

Screen names provide anonymity. They allow people to say things and behave differently than if they were not anonymous. In this are the seeds of failure of "Ejectia" if not overcome. I know Rachel Lucas personally and that is her real name. Bill Whittle uses his real name. I am using my real name. I will not behave differently than my normal personality in everyday life because I will not hide behind a screen name.

Good t' meetcha, Mike! While I agree whole-heartily that the anonymity of the internet can, and often does, make people ruder, not everyone is willing (or even should) post their full names. Problems with security and stalking are two good reasons to use a pseudonym, but any site that requires creating accounts can mitigate some of the problems that comes with unfettered anonymity.

Me? I like going by Captain Midnight because I'm a Heinlein fan, and I get to use his line, "Captain Midnight, undaunted as usual, knew just what to do."



Long time Bill reader. Once used part of an Essay for a Toastmasters speech (the one about the battle for Little Roundtop.) Had to work hard to deliver it without choking up and crying.

At any rate, I do tech support by phone so am pretty good with Windows, Macs and Linux systems. Can and have taught spinning and knitting. Have worked in a sewing factory and can sew by machine and hand. Am currently living in an old Silver Streak trailer off grid in the Cascade Mountains of Washington state. I'm pretty good with livestock and getting by without refrigeration. Spend my weekends trying to revive a small mountain church founded in the 30s for the CCC boys.

I'm glad to see this get off the ground and happy to be in the midst of such interesting folks.



Just got home from work, cracked an ESB (Extra Stout Bitter)and sat done to find a free offer for another. Thanks Don!

Life is good.



I suppose this is off-topic, but I'm bothered by the Prisoner's Dilemma. I realize it's only game theory, but one important piece of information is left out. It is never stated whether or not the prisoners are actually guilty. I believe this is an extremely important point. If I am guilty, I should admit it. If not, it doesn't seem as if I have anything to say. I suppose the assumption is that I am guilty, but I wish it were clearly stated. There is a moral dimension to this situation that is ignored.



I'm in. I'm so in that I'm afraid to say exactly how in I am; I've had a few Friday beers and might start waxing poetic or something, and no one wants that.

I know writing very well, astronomy a bit less so, and enough American history to teach the basics. I also know how to effectively, quickly, and safely capture a spider and put him outside rather than kill him. However, I imagine the guy teaching how to effectively, quickly, and safely smash a spider with a heavy object will attract more students; I'm a realist.

The ultimate fate of the human race may well depend on the success of this endaevour, Bill. Or one like it. But don't be afraid of such implications.

After all, you're not alone.


G



RiverCocytus,
Both.



Hi! There are already a tremendous number of comments to read on this site. I have to apologize for only reading the first few, and I must thank those who actually read what I have to say. Let me start out by saying that I lack a great deal of confidence in my abilities; therefore, competition scares me. The idea of helping each other by forming a community to share knowledge, while exihilerating, also scares me. The future, my future scares me. I'm having trouble finding a real job; I cannot adhere to the values of the hiring companies. I cannot respect most sales tactics or the level of customer service. Price gouging is prevalent in the Chicago area since there are always the wealthy few, who are willing to pay, and that is enough. Yes, I'm bitter.
Because I have a terrible memory, I rely mostly on putting context clues together in order to come up with possible solutions. I read, gather ideas, research, then try to formulate some sort of opinion from all that mess. I write. Many tell me I write well. I used to teach writing to freshmen and sophomores in college. I liked to make them question what they believe to be obvious based on the lifestyles they were used to. I like that this site helps me do that for myself. I am glad that this site takes me outside myself and places me into society. I could never quite understand my purpose in life since I don't think I will ever be some great important person, but something you said about each person being the best he or she can be in order to present an example for others really spoke to me. The fact that I am NOT perfect gives me something to work towards. Tomorrow, I hope to wake up thinking: "Whose life can I touch, today?"



Waxing poetic is always appreciated; as is waxing lyrical, waxing philosophical, waxing your car, waxing your surfboard, bikini wax.

Waxing your moustache, ehhh, not so much.

I’m more of a “let the spider run free” kind of guy.

D4/Stan





ragallup,

*history nerd GO*

The original prisoner's dilemma setup was developed by the Rand Corporation (no relation to Ayn, I believe) as part of their research into game theory, hoping to apply it to the Cold War and the possibility of a real, major nuclear exchange. (This was 1950.) It started out as a very spare logic puzzle with no trappings; a man named Albert Tucker added the context about prisoners to make it easier for the psychology students he was speaking to to wrap their heads around.

He could probably have just as easily picked a gambling scenario.

I agree with you, but taking the strictly moral path is something that most members of a society... won't often do. Best to design for what they DO respond to, and encourage for the best.

Greg: Hey, I loathe and despise spiders and I still try to leave the good ones (wolf spiders, here) alive and intact- as long as they're not in any danger of being ON ME.



"And I want to talk about two or three of them tonight," Gingrich goes on, "but I think the larger principle--is--a principle of seriousness. And that's what I find so disheartening in watching the current political process--and again, I've been active in politics since 1960. . . . The process is decaying at a level that is bizarre. And it's a mutual, synergistic decay between candidates and consultants and the media. And it's fundamentally wrong for the survival of this country. Because the challenges we face are so great."



Carolyn,

Hi, I'm daddyquatro.
I'm the village smartass.

I'm going to take that hat off for just a minute.

I have read every comment here(because I have no life: sorry, smartass hat is hard to take off) and let me tell you something about the people that surround you.

Each and every one of them is struggling to find that way, that one way, to make the world a little better, a little more like the world they have imagined. You'll find young and old, rich and poor, city and country, successful and not-so-much.

We're all here because we read Bill's words and it touched something within us.
We ARE NOT ALONE.
You are not alone.

Welcome!



ragallup -

Mr. Whittle has provided a very nice introduction to a summary to an overview of some of all the work done on the Prisoner's Dilemma. I'm one of several who will be happy to go into more detail on this when we have the infrastructure. But in brief:

The payoff chart does assume guilt, and more detailed descriptions typically make that explicit. But it is the dilemma itself which makes this interesting, not the prisoners.

The underlying model captures circumstances where people are faced with the incentive to cooperate and a temptation to cheat at the same time. Most of the work done on the Prisoner's Dilemma involves tyring to find ways to increase the level of cooperation where desirable or decrease it, as among criminals, when it isn't.

The Tit-for-Tat strategy is just one way of doing that. Shifting from a single iteration to multiple ones requires people to consider the future impact of their choices. Cooperation becomes more desirable as it helps ensure even more future cooperation. Betrayal becomes less desirable since it now increases the chance of future retaliation.

Thinking we can have unlimited cooperation without paying the costs of enforcing it is what makes us sheep instead of sheepdogs. Which is just fine with the wolves.



Rickbert,
"introduction to a summary to an overview"

Dude!

You're my hero!



suek - my mother worked in the office at a GE Lamp warehouse, so I know all about what you're saying when you say you never imagined all the different light bulbs that are out there. Whew!

Carolyn, you sound a lot like me, only more so. Except that I don't share your lack of confidence in my own abilities (until all these people started coming out of the woodwork, anyway). The bad memory and having to scoop context from information so that I can put it together into a coherent whole sounds just like me, though. And don't let daddyquatro bother you when he puts his smartass hat back on, he's just jealous of dougman (Sorry, you'll have to go back a couple of threads for context on that).



This:

Thinking we can have unlimited cooperation without paying the costs of enforcing it is what makes us sheep instead of sheepdogs. Which is just fine with the wolves.

is an excellent summation of the problem. I would add this:

To complicate things even further, a significant portion of the sheep cannot tell the difference between sheepdogs and wolves. Anything with sharp teeth frightens them, even if it's defending their safety with its very life.

As Robert Heinlien once wrote, "Analogies are always suspect". But the sheep - sheepdog - wolf analogy is so deeply appropriate to our present circumstances that I can't help but restate it. As a matter of fact, I think that that Heinlien quote is actually about the same analogy.

Good heavens. At some point in his essay, Bill mentioned that someone within "the remnant" might state an idea that gets picked up and carried on by others, even if they forget where the idea originally came from.

Well, there you go. Case in point.


G



Dan from Silt,

I pulled up Silt on MapQuest. I think this is doable.

email me at

some_guy_named_don@yahoo.com

Don



daddyquatro,

If anyone here has this bit of info it would have to be you.

How many posts do we have as of this one?



Hello to all. My name is Gary.
I am a Land Surveyor (a good one I think) in western Washington.
I've always considered myself more of "Jack" than a "Master", so not sure what I can contribute. But I know I'd like to. I am and have at various times been, a helicopter pilot (CH-53), student, salesman, father (2), husband (2) and employer.
The idea of the remanant reminds me somewhat of a couple of things. One is a movie by Albert Brooks called "Defending your life" and the other is the underlying theme of most of the stories by Steve King.
I'm glad to make your aquaintence. Say hello and let me know if I can help.



Don,

It's actually easy to see that. Go back to the main page and scroll down to the link to the comments. When I just went and looked, there were 634 comments on "You Are Not Alone", and 303 comments on "Building Ejectia".

It would be kind of nice to have comment line numbers, though.



[quote]Hi. My name is Bill. I know a little astronomy, and I can teach flying, computer graphics, and most film and TV Production. I live in Southern California. It's good to meet you, and I'm happy to be here.

Posted by: Bill Whittle | May 21, 2007 2:53 PM [/quote]
Four days ago Bill dropped a very big idea. As I post this 4 days and 634+comments later, I simply marvel at the depth of the response to Mr. Whittles words. The comments have been excellent, and I am encouraged so many people have spoken aloud (some for the first time) that they are NOT alone, so many of us feel the same way, and so more importantly think in the same way, that honour and integrity are vital to life, that there is so much more than the almighty buck, that my face in the mirror is an image I want to be a good one.
I know that I stand on the shoulders of good men who came before me, and are now gone. My own son is perched on my shoulders, and here in Ejectia we can build the same dynamic. Who knows who will reach the highest, this interweb thing is unleashing potential as we have never seen before. Going to be a fun ride!



Gregory Koster, Pellegri, Roxanne D., Catracks, Speakez,
To borrow Muscledaddy's shout out, the influx is as impressive as it is heartening - but I would not like us to lose one another in the rush.

iig_alexa@yahoo.com



Gary,
You! Can! Pilot! A! Helicopter!
That's not a jack. But it can't be a queen. King is a little too much. I think the word we're looking for is...

Welcome!

Wayne!
Don't give away all my secrets.



Hey DaddyQuatro:

Thanks for the recognition I so richly deserve for having been post #600. Took a great deal of kniving and timing on my part...

Will my lifetime supply of Rice-A-Roni be coming via US Mail?

I vote DaddyQuatro as official greater to Ejectia. His enthusiasm is contagious.



Here's something I've been pondering since first writing my intro... I want to shout it from the rooftops to anyone who might be listening to come to this site, to see the magic that is happening. But, I fear doing so will only bring in trolls.

I regularly post on a board put forth by the company I work for (I'm an at-home medical transcriptionist.) I've noticed by the latest rants being posted there regarding dear ol' Rosie that I am not alone in my thinking.

Just wondering if any of you can offer me a suggestion on how to discretely suggest they take a look here at our new community?

Thanks in advance.



Johnny Ringo 5/25 1:35 AM -- Man, I know the feeling, my Friend, (if I may be so bold)... Welcome in from the cold...

Robineus 5/25 2:06 AM -- "edification of a better polis..." RIGHT ON, and "dittoes," me man!!!

Sergey 5/25 5:23 AM -- Thank you for taking the time and thought from your experience (obviously) to post that!!! I shall print and follow, should the need arise... question, though... would Duct Tape be as good or better??? Dougman keeps a HUGE supply on hand...

Dani 5/25 5:44 AM -- A WELCOME addition, indeed!!!

Jack'OTrades 5/25 9:41 AM --
Tim 5/25 9:47 AM --
THANK YOU BOTH for your service, and continuing watchfullness... YOU are a part of the reason I can sleep soundly in the night in the USofA!!! Welcome aboard, kind Sirs!!!

Reverend josh 5/25 10:12 AM -- And Thank You for YOUR service, too!!! You ARE "one who serves," also, (at least IMHO).

Steve Pedin 5/25 11:31 AM -- DOUBLE AYE, Sir!!!

SR-17 5/25 12:11 PM --
Monty 5/25 1259 PM --
Daphne 5/25 1:11 PM --
Suel 5/25 2:34 PM --
Teri Pittman 5/25 3:59 PM --
WELCOME ONE AND ALL !!! It is GREAT to have each one of you along on this journey...

Carolyn 5/25 4:54 PM --
I frankly don't think competition will be a problem, the way things seem to be "coming together..." For one, the CALIBER (is that the right word?) of the people drawn by Mr. Whittle's thoughts and writings is SOOOOOOOOoooooo high. For another, there are envisioned MULTIPLE "outlets" for "private" and "public" debates, with varying "levels" of formality and rules... So I say, "no worries, mate!!!" (or, if it's a word, "mate-ess"!!!)

Easyliving1 5/25 5:06PM -- Good quote... Thanks!!! I wonder if Newt will (eventually) notice us, (or Ejectia!)??? What do you think?

Gary 5/25 8:16PM -- GLAD to make YOUR acquantance, too, Sir!!! As to, "If I can help," plenty of time for that, as we get this thing started... The first step is often the most difficult, and you, as well as EVERY OTHER POSTER HERE, has TAKEN that step. I'll say it again...

Thank you ALL, and WELCOME ALONG!!!!

Gads, I'm really beginning to LOVE this place!!!



Hi Bill,

I found your site about 3 years ago, and I took the time to read all of the essays. I had never read the thoughts I had, articulated so consisely.

Anyways, I am a water quality professional. I have some skill in bringing together disparate sources of information together to accomplish a larger goal. In other words, I can figure out who to ask the proper questions to solve a problem. I also happen to be very good at trivia games. I don't know if that is a useful ability. One last thing, I can read a standard size novel in 3 to 4 hours. If I need something read in a hurry, it will get read.

This is a great idea.



Kayrn,
I soooooooo wanted to make that post. But I played the uber lurker to see who else would.

Thanks so much for your kind words.
(I've got the nifty blue vest and the little pink label thingee)

'Ware the quatrovirus.

I'm contagious



D4, you're amazing.

Hi everyone, welcome to you all!

I want to write gobs more but I am plum out of time. Dougman, you struck again and I was so sure I'd see you coming, I was so sure.



Alexa...
HA!!! Gotcha!!!
That was ME, in the Dougman mask...
Now, GOODNIGHT!!! GO TO SLEEP!!!
(You need some REST, with the job(s) ahead for you).
And, by the way, aren't these posts, these PEOPLE, GREAT ?!?!?!?!
awesome does not begin....



Honestly, I didn't think you could top "Tribes," Bill and am so pleased that I was wrong. Your recent essays and the comments here are like a "Hope" transfusion for anemia of the jaded. My name is Lorriane and I live outside of Houston. I'm a firefighter and can teach Basic Life Saving for first responders and by-standers as well as basic, advanced, trauma, and cardiac life support for Adults, Children and Neonates to those in healthcare. I have been jumping out of what I'm sure you would call "perfectly good airplanes" for almost 19 years, as well as instructed in this this un-natural act. (I DID learn to land a C-182, but the "runway judges" at the FOB suggested I stick to parachutes - LOL!)
I was one of the folks at Ellington Airfield setting up a neonatal ICU on the tarmac as very sick infants were evacuated from New Orleans during Katrina and since then, I have often returned to the Tribes essay on those nights when the worst of humanity won out over the best of my skills. As much as it restored my belief that I was doing something good, these recent essays have taken that restoration to a new level...a simple but powerful one that simply asks "If not me, then who?" My ability to do so is not an obligation as much as a core component of my own humanity. I had forgotten that for a while until I came here this morning and found myself inspired by your words not only to help, but to learn from those who have commented before me. Let others have their "Utopia" - I'll take this pack of sheepdogs over that ANY day!



Lorraine 5/26 1:07 AM --
Fascinating... simply fascinating and inspiring. I have made ONE jump, while in college, with a fellow Idahoan who was a "Smokejumper..." He talked me into it... WHAT A RUSH!!! The only problem was, "life" kicked in after college, we lost touch, and I never got to do it again.
And may I say, "Thank you for your service!!!" As a first responder, you are as much on the "front lines" as anyone. That is said not to diminish anyone, by the way, but to lift you just a little...
This IS going to be a "kick in the pants," says I... WELCOME aboard!!!



Good morning!
The tea is brewing and I am glad to see Ejectia continues to thrive in its embryonic state.
I also check every day to see if Ejectia.com is online yet!



Good Morning, Ms. Maggie!!!
As you awaken, I prepare to rest, since I'm 12 hours ahead of East Coast Standard time, here in China at the moment!
I, too, check the comments often, for new-comers and other wisdom. What an OUTSTANDING collection of individuals, eh?!?
By the way, we have a target LAUNCH date... July 4, 2007... Bill (Mr. Whittle, to me), has posted an "update" at the top of the "Building Ejectia!" Comment thread...
I am excited... Thanks for checking in!!!



Paul A.
China! Bring on the photos!
I hope then a Gallery for photography will be on the agenda somewhere down the line.
What an eggselent idea!
/rayra



I am a human resources manager, and I can give pre-legal advice concerning the landmines in dealing with your employees or your boss.



Bill,

Reading your words was like exploring a different method than mine for coming to the same conclusion: the best way to lead, or create change, is through setting an example; living it.

I am a volunteer, currently in south central Malawi, 30km outside of Blantyre, at the Mikolongwe Vocational School. I am looking forward to using the upcoming website in presentations for the students.

I have studied philosophy and theology, and fancy myself a writer, and will be looking for ways to contribute.

Ever think about having a forum where people can come to request/offer/discuss things dealing specifically with a philanthropic nature? (I have to ask.)

Kudos on what you're doing here, it's pretty sweet.

peace,

charles



Hello. I've been reading this blog for one or two years now, and I'm a big fan of your writing.

I'm 16 years old. I can play the electric guitar, I'm learning Java, and I know enough history to possibly be of some use. The history and the guitar can definately be taught, but I'll need a few more 1337 guitar skillz.

I also know EXTREMELY rudimentary HTML. I can make a link. That's it.



Im a so very in.



This is my first post anywhere, ever.

I liked very much your reference to the early Greek virtues: courage, wisdom, science, the practical crafts, temperance, generosity, goodwill, pride, honesty, friendliness, justice, etc. It seems clear to me that we would improve the general health of our society if we could somehow foster an increase in these virtues. It also seems to me that people with different views on conventionally disputed issues (politics, god, etc.)could rally behind an effort to enhance these virtues in our society.

Two questions:
1) Is there general agreement among Ejectia-friendly posters that an infusion of these virtues in our society would improve our citizens and our politicians ?

2) What specifically can we do to enhance these early Greek virtues in our present society?

Jim Hope



legalizeit,
My dad and brother used to do missionary work in Malawi, and I used to pen-pal with a young man there. 30+ years ago.

Jim Hope,
This is my first post anywhere, ever.

Ejectia seems to have that effect on people.

As to your questions.
1. Yes, I think that's what has drawn us all here.
2. Wiser minds than mine, my friend.

Tigerhawk,
I think that makes you the youngest Ejectian to date.

Welcome all!



Streeter is my real name.
Developer, San Diego.
Thanks to all who have honorably served.



Thanks Streeter, and welcome.

BTW, for those of you out there who are proud of having served, please feel free to display that fact using the small banners you'll find here.



Your essay was profound. I am not alone! Duty, honor, charactor, noble acts, simply trying to live "rightly" among thousands whose banner is "Screw the other guy (and you're a chump if you don't do likewise)," is challenging and can be physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually tiring. Thank God the Remnant exists. I have only a few friends whose motto, like mine, is "Live Truth, Speak Truth." I know others of you here know just how challenging that can be. No one who prefers use of sleight of hand and clever tricks to cheat their fellows appreciates the "light of truth" being shined on their corrupt works. Even if we don't aim the light directly at them, the light does shine in the darkness and the darkness shall never put it out -- and they hate us for it.

Stand Firm.



OK. I have financial skills. I'm 64, semi retired, and live in the Bay Area of California.

I am willing to share with my tribe members how the following is done. And then teach them how to do it for others.

I am part of a unique group of planners across the country, my clients never lose money. My clients never run out of money. I can actually increase your income and lower your taxes at the same time. I redesign portfolios so that a collapse in the stock market has no negative effect on your account.

This is going to sound odd, but we do not have to rely on a specific rate of return to reach your goals. I solve your income and retirement needs mathematically and we do all this without charging a fee.

I can teach other licensed professionals how to do this - what tools they need and which companies offer the products that match or exceed the mathematically correct solutions generated by the software.

We do not know what company or products we are going to use up front. We match multiple companies and products with the mathematically correct solution criteria - clients best interest first! Compensation is last.

I can take someone from 0 to full on in about 90 days if they are yet to be licensed.

See:
http://www.theperfectsolution.org/rd/
for the long story of exactly how it is done and why it works.

Bob Dillon
Safety of Principal
http://www.mysafetyofprincipal.com



Lorraine,

I've saved your comment for the next time I need a bit of verbal inspiration... iffen' you don't mind. :)

Seriously, that was awesome.



Lorraine lives in Houston.

Lorraine can teach skydiving.

/Big sloppy grin

I love this place!

D4/Stan



Polaris 5/26 12:19 PM --
Funny how the light can so easily penetrate what seemed impenetrable, eh? And it DOESN'T TAKE MUCH!!! Thanks for coming by, and welcome, Sir.



Ejectia 3

Event horizons so obscure,
And concepts so abstruse,
Can put one in an awful mood,
Of feeling quite obtuse.

But stop and think and contemplate
This goal not yet in view.
The sky is filled with new ideas,
It isn�t CO2.

We�re looking at a universe,
Of patriotic pleas,
So first we need some telescopes,
To look past all the trees.

We need a Galileo,
To bring the stars in view,
To clarify our galaxy,
And find a planet or two.

But while we wait for him to show,
Hear what Bill has to say,
We have a first-day target now,
It�s Independence Day.

We know it won�t be perfect
But listen for freedom to ring,
Your spirit will have a chance to soar
I think Martina will sing.

MJ
Ejectia #1 on 5/23 1:17
Ejectia #2 on 5/24 9:27



Ladies and Gentlemen,
In my most humble (not) opinion, I think we have our EJECTIA! POET LAUREATE!!!
Ms. Angelu, look behind you...

MJ, that is, again, outstanding!!! Incredible!!! I think we need a place to keep, and highlight the shining light of your brilliant creativity, a sort of "journal of the expedition" in poem!!!
Thank you for that!!!



brilliant essay!! Whittle needs to become an adj. like google became a verb.
intriguing idea.
not in... just watching for now.

:)




Yes, through all the thick of it, I find myself here now to also send that message of a great place. As on earth as in Heaven. Vitual City-It has been a small town, guess I just sat outside that town and just found it! The Remnant is from God. IEUE meaning Jehweh. Oldest translation in Hebrew. My grandpa left me a book I am trying to make presentable for print. He was a scholar in Hebrew, Greek, Latin and the Bible. He was a Reverend Minister. He was a very loving man to all. He loved our men in uniform, he would walk up to them and ask if he could share a prayer. He would get all choked up every time and cry happily for them! For us, for all mankind! I called him The Man of God. He would humble himself and I would say yes, you are. He was the best example of being in the image of Christ as a man could be. Every minute set for Christ. While he die at age 94 I promised him I would publish his book. It seems time is running out! I have some of it posted on the .net. It has upset a few. I mean how many islamist can there be? Are there any muslims in Vitual City? I hope not! I mean....
Well this is a new HOPE for everyone! Even the islamist!
I know they would not like to hear! While working on this book I came to the crossroads of the different meanings and I froze and hesitate- for why was it hard to type about....Jehweh?
It causes people to get mad like in politics! This is what I found and I relate it to God's remnant.
God created the New Humanity-1st Humanity. Adam and Eve. God' Remnant here? They disobeyed God. Adam and Eve bacame a dead humanity! Jehweh had to create a 2nd humanity to restore life. Abraham, (this is where I discovered it) proved he was willing to sacrifice Isaac. God stopped it and end sacrifice. Mohammed continues from here. No redeemption no life no one to save us.=more death! (Jesus was to fullfill the ultimate sacrifice. God needed a perfect vessel. Jesus willing to fullfill God's word and to give us life eternal again.)
The 2nd humanity=Jesus=Life Hope Redeemption free will, free character. Jesus not only died for our sins but to be ourselfs. Free will! To be our own character. So we can learn to have fellowship with one another. So we can have fellowhip with God. It is simple as far as this
1st humanity=death no redemption
2nd humanity=life a promised hope. Free will and character. Our will should be that of the will of God. There are needed elements in a person for the development of a perfect personality. 1. The capacity to reason. 2. The capacity to grow in wisdom 3. the ability to guides ones' actions in accordance with reason and conscious 4 The ability to love. 5. The possesion of free will.
I see now what humanity people are working from- the 1st or 2nd? The 2nd-humanity is Jesus Remnant of life for an everlasting life. A New Hope a living Hope.
Rev.'s translation meant there was no hell to burn in eternal fire. He said God is a loving God. (doesn't mean you won't burn once either-for evil will be destroyed) He was against abortion, he fought to teach creationism in schools so we can pick and choose. Already the Koran has beaten that! Yes, at the time of Isaac that is where Mohammed insisted it meant death! Mo- continues today it means death! This 'religion' working from a dead humanity the 1st. There are people doing the same thing.
I see our soldiers working in 2nd humanity. Sacrificing the most valuable thing they can give us, their life for us to have these freedoms. It is true John Davis you are a remnant. That was cute! Now you have one! Congradulations! Making you an remnant too! That is if we all so choose. I am part of God's remnant too! we are never alone for sure....
I will reply to some other things I find grrreat too!
For now, ..... We are all remnants of God it is what we do to choose to live our life.
Don't be a screw you 1st guy! I have been a victim of that and still am!
They have taken the death of my dad's dignity away! I am still fighting in courts to retrieve my dad's things for a strange women from screw over first, has taken everything. It has been over a year and I still have no closure. That is our new system. Lawyers and judges inc.!



Sorry, I just couldn't leave the post-count on this thread sitting where it was...

Tallkers -- Sorry to hear you are going through a rough time of it over your father's passing. It sounds like he had a very rich and full time amongst us, and you seem (rightly) proud of him. There is room for all religious faiths and opinions here, as we respect each other. I believe there are many paths to the same destination. We must each find our way, as we shall. Welcome.



Honor comes from a deep understanding of moral principle,
A remnant in the heart screaming that life is a gift worthy of expression,
And worthy of the good fight even if death is inevitable.
Moral principle separates those of honor from those without,
And is necessary to hear freedom's ring,
To which the slave monger is deaf,
Alone with his own anguish and chagrin.

I hope to do honor with the virtues along with you all in this experiment and come out better than before I came in.



I thought "Tribes" was the best thing I had read...I was wrong. I just moved you to the top of my favorites.



My name is Bob. In my former vocational incarnations - as a young man looking to get in a little adventure and serve - I was an infantryman, and a deputy who taught interpersonal communications, use of force, and (!) unarmed combat. For the past 8 years I've been a network administrator / engineer / project manager at a huge data center in the Midwest I like to call the DeathStar.

I've been married to an amazing woman for 20 years, with two great kids and now (gulp!) an amazing little grandson to boot.

My wife and I travel for pleasure like obsessed nomads, and are truly living the American Dream. I can proudly say that we found success without cheating one little iota, not even on taxes. I want that same Wonderful Dream extant for the wee lad when he starts blazing his own trail.

Count me in! I'd follow you into Hell, Whittle...

Seriously though, when I first checked in here a few years back and began perusing Bill's essays, I was awestruck by his ability to write with such a rare combination of reason and inspiration. The titles of his essays rang out like a laundry list of all I believe and hold dear, at a time when the world around me seemed to be going quite mad.

And now this! You do think BIG Bill. Love that.

What a wonderful idea. Another place to call home.

Ejectia: The Rise of the Remnants.



I think I'm a little late to this party, but I have an explanation. I may be a little slow, but I needed some time to let Bill's writing and concepts sink in. I feel very much like I did when I read Tribes.

Even more importantly, just leaving a word or two reinforces for all of us the central idea that brought you all the way through that thicket above: you are not alone, and we need to know that we are not alone as well.
In some respects, this may be a particularly important function Ejectia! can serve — giving us a place where, even just by reading some of what members of this community have written, we can remind ourselves that we are not alone. There are times each of us needs the support of a community of shared beliefs and viewpoints. Right behind that in importance, I suspect, is the cross-fertilization we will obviously find here. Both assertions are based on personal experience as well as observation.

As for me, I am an analyst. Most recently I've been turning some of my analytical efforts from my workplace to writing some non-work analysis and commentary (including a commentary on this essay) as part of my own self-improvement efforts. Even though I may spend most of my time just listening (reading) here, I'm proud to consider myself one of you.



Weston (Leftfoot leeds) 5/26 5:59 PM --
I have no doubt your goals will be achieved, as will our arrival in the Land of Ejectia! Thanks for posting!

Dorinfla 5/26 7:36 PM --
A good move, if I may be so bold... And Welcome along!!!

Idly Awed (Bob) 5/26 8:02 PM --
Sir, thank you for your Service, both past, and yet to come. Aren't grandsons a "kick-in-the-pants?!?" Welcome aboard, Sir!!!

GDCritter 5/26 10:46 PM --
And Thank YOU for the reinforcement!!! Welcome in!!!



Hey Paul A!

Wish I could have you over for some of this excellent cabrito from my niece's first communion party.

If I'm the emergency backup Dougman, then you need to get yourself a blue vest.



Hey, thanks to all the official "watchers on the walls" past and present -- May you be honored and well remembered this Memorial Day. We wouldn't be here without you, and I so appreciate all of your sacrifices. We're on your side, and I'll be at the TN parade with my Pop to prove it. Leilani



My mother has been divorced five times. So, everything I learned at a young age about being a man, I learned from my grandfather while working on his farm. I grew up in a small town where people usually treated each other with dignity and respect. My grandfather was often treated as the communtiy wiseman. Everyone respected him, and those with bad intentions FEARED him. He taught me honor, duty, responsibility, common sense, and how to defend myself (with lethal force if necessary).
When I was eleven we moved to another town nearby, 60 miles from grandpa. It was like culture shock, as though I had moved from the Vatican to downtown Gamorrah. I was used to people behaving as though they care about things other than themselves. But this new town, at only 8500 people (12,000 counting the illegal immigrants) had the second highest teen drug/alcohol abuse, and teen pregnancy rates per capita in the U.S. (no I'm not joking, look it up, Ulysses Kansas circa 1990 approx.). It was almost as though we had rented a house in a suburb of hell. If you didn't have money or didn't come from the right crotch, you were nobody. Needless to say, with my morality I was a double outcast, but I didn't really mind. I was more worried some of their bad habits might rub off on me.
By the time I was 16 I was effectively a leper. But I was also the "King of the Rejects", they didn't like me, but they knew better than to screw with me, especially since I wouldn't just stand by and watch the rich/popular kids mistreat others. Every time I turned around I was in a fight. Soon, the teachers were labeling me a "problem", while the actual perpetrators were excused as "kids being kids". I've never been so disgusted in my life! What should I have expected? Most of the perpetrators were rich (so the school was afraid of their parents) or their parents were the teachers. I defend someone, and I get suspended, while the actual responsible parties got a pat on the head for bringing my "overt hostility" to the admin's attention. After all, they're the good kids, children of the pillars of the community. Yes, like that pillar over there, the one with the gin blossoms and white powder around his nostrils, who's humping his secretary at the local cheap motel, while his wife sits at home nursing her new bruises.
I moved out of that town shortly after my eighteenth birthday, and I've never looked back.
I'll be 28 in a few months, I'm getting my concealed carry license at the end of June, my FFL in July, and I hope to become one of the best gunsmiths in Colorado.
I must say, this is the first time I've read an essay that spoke from my heart, even though it was written by someone else. I've been alone for so long I'm not sure what to do. But it's wonderful to FINALLY know ther are others like me.
For the record, my grendfather was an agnostic, and I'm an athiest. That dosen't change the fact that I was taught to do the right thing, not because God said so, not because the law says so, and sure as hell not because the MSM, Hollywood, or the U.N. says so, but because it's the right thing to do. Period.
Right is right, wrong is wrong, and gray areas are for people who refuse to care, refuse to take responsibility, and are to lazy and comfortable to try.
Hua.



Leilani 5/27 12:14 AM --
Hope you enjoy the parade, and the time with your Pop! Welcome, and thanks for the post!

G.W.C. 5/27 1:37 AM --
The toughest steel is forged by fire not once, but several times. Welcome, Sir!!! Welcome.



I'm so tired. The only time my hands don't shake these days is when my adrenaline is pumping or I'm holding a gun. After reading that essay, today became one of the best days I've had in over a decade. For those of you who decide to be the one who stands up for what's right every time, make sure you know what your getting yourself into.

Skills:
15 years knife combat training (self-taught from books but it's served me WELL, twice). Muscle memory is a fantastic thing.
5 years sword training (ninja-to, not katana, and yes there is a difference in how they're used) (also self-taught but I'm looking for proper instruction).
5 years formal martial arts training [Tae Kwon Do with grappling focus, boxing (thank you grandpa), and wrestling] plus 10 years street fighting (don't knock it, it teaches you what a REAL fight is).
I'm a pretty good shot with a shotgun, pistol, or rifle.
A little research and I can grow anything.
I've practiced silent movement most of my life. Now it's natural even when I'm not trying to be quiet.
I read everything, from Heinlein (The Cat Who Walks Through Walls & Have Spacesuit, Will Travel have been my favorites since I was about 9), Stephen King, Shakespear, Dinesh D'Souza, Military Manuals, Encyclopedias, Margaret Weis (loved the Star of the Guardian series), dozens of martial arts manuals, and I'm gonna stop the list here so I don't take up too much space again.

Paul A.- I appreciate the welcome:)



Good morning all. The tea is brewing and I'm having a bit of Whittle essay with breaky. :)
Reading the comments left by other readers of Whittle is like reading currently made history.
Such a treasure indeed.
Now each time I'm out in public I look at other folks a bit different, in asking myself which of these I see are of the Remnant too.
I agree with G.W.C. about honour, it is an important part of a decent and civil society.



G.W.C. | May 27, 2007 1:37 AM

Your Grandfather, sir, was one hell of a man. I know because mine was too.

BTW: let me know when you are comfortable with gun smithing. I've got some projects...

G.W.C. | May 27, 2007 3:56 AM

You probably already know this but what the hey:

Try Spider Robinson. He is the new Heinlein, imho. And I've read everything of Heinlein's that I can get my hands on and own most of it.



Egad Bill, bless you! And bless a certain poster at LGF for leading me here. I don't know how long it's been that I've been throwing various configurations of key phrases like "fight back" and "stand against" and "organization" and "community" into Google, hoping the results would lead me to a gathering of the remnant or old breed or whatever you want to call it. I didn't know what to call it, but I've been looking hard for it.

I'm a New England kid who does his best to live up to the area's do-it-yourself-rather-than-pay-someone-else tradition. Also a writer (short stories published in twenty or so journals, collection published), singer & rudimentary guitar player, inefficient but capable sketcher and painter. Don't know how these qualities might be valuable, but we'll see. Oh, and I'm a pilot, too, of the GA variety.



Maggie,
Pour me a cup so I can ponder a fitting welcome for G.W.C.

Quite frankly, that one requires more than my usual off the cuff,tripe.

Jimbouie,
Welcome!



to G.W.C., welcome to you and all

CRUSHING THE STONE
SLIDING DOWN THE VALLEY HEADED FOR A FALL
TORTURED NIGHTMARES TRY TO HAUNT
BUT I BLAST THROUGH THEM ALL
THE WIND RUSHED PAST
AS I OER THE CREST WENT SHEARING
THE STONES BELOW RISING FAST
BUT INSTEAD OF FEARING
STRANGELY SOMETHING SCREAMED TO ME
A DECLARING GAVELS SHOT
I SLAMMED MY HANDS DOWN HARD
AND A NEW ME WAS BEGOT
FROM INSIDE ME SHOCK WAVES SPREAD
AMAZED I WAS AND ENERGIZED
CRUSHING THE STONE INSTEAD

CLOUDY WISPS SWIRLED AROUND ME
AND DUST FELL LIKE MIST
PULVERIZED FROM WHERE MY HANDS WERE
IT IS TRUE I DO INSIST
I STOOD UP IN A CLOISTER
OF RUSHING IN MY EARS
MY OWN VOICE HEARD
HOWLING LIKE SOME HELLISH HOUND
LIKE A CROWD YELLING CHEERS
AND LOOKING BACK TO THE GROUND
CARVED OUT OF STONE
IN RELIEF, MY HANDS SO FINE
EVEN THE CREASES IN MY SKIN SHONE
POLISHED TO A SHINE
ENOUGH TO MAKE MICHELANGELO PROUD
ANIMALS AND TREES MY ONLY WITNESS
TO THE HUMBLING WEIGHT ENDOWED
BY SURVIVING THE FALL AND
CRUSHING THE STONE

HOW ON EARTH COULD THIS BE?
MAYBE I DIED, AND THIS, DEATHS DREAM
A DELICIOUS EITHER WAY DECREE
AND I HOPE IT Will CONTINUE



Hello, Remnant friends! I forgot to introduce myself, my name is Peg. I came by way of Jehweh. I came here through my favorite site Schmaltz und Grieben mit Alois, Klaus, Deb und der lugers. Great site! I enjoy these blogs! GWC, I use to go out and shoot all kinds of guns. When I was in a motorcyle club for a little while-um they too would let me shoot for I was gooood! They did not let other women shoot. Most of these guys from good families and are vets! I learned from a friend of mine. He had everything! lugers! He also taught me to throw a knife-!Good to know if ya ain't got a gun!! It has helped me once! Stopped the guy cold in his tracks! Trying to steal from me! I threw the knife just missing his head and it stuck in the door and he put down my video camera! He looked as if he'd attack but I already had another knife in my hands! Plus more hidden! My grandpa did teach me he loved me for who ever I was. He taught me the good and I had to learn to be-ME -what ever other people were. Of coarse I was myself and love life. It was the a-o getting in my face! I avoided them at all-l cost! I like staying at home now. I never really belonged to any group. Not even in high school. People would say make up your mind what click you belong to. Pick a click! "Click," I say? I could not do that I loved all people! I was interested in all people! In the 60's I loved the hippies and the bikers, and the army. I tried to join the army all of them, they said I was to old I was 28!
When I took off and traveled in a car across the states my rev.g-pa called all the churches and every place I stopped I was freaked, it was like people knew me.?" Then a cop stopped me on the hi-way-Denver, and said, your granpa is worried can you call him!? Wooo---Talk about poparotsi'! lol! I don't know how I got on this subject. oh, well..! lost! Frustrated! Everything is dissappearing. Little red wagon! Even Harley Davidson's. I don't want this kind of trade! I don't need someone to hand me a napkin from the other side of the world! I like being private! What is America's!- let it be America's!"
All these illegals! Plez already! I would prefer give them the money and leave! I love people but this is turning into a screw the people behind their backs! Once their in we will ask, "how did this happen?" Now is the time to think on that before it is to late. We cannot have a country built on all this great history and sacrifice and then we just surrender it to the mexicans? Giving all these muslims visa's! All of this is costing us tremendously! Even our lifes, our sacrifices. Our American dream - they now carry. We see them getting what we all wish we could get! New identity. New start, fresh cash. Our laws are made to change? Bend? manipulate? How this two fork tongue speaking crapp goin on which maybe Clinton invented. Depending what is IS! What sex is, Is! Nice to learn all this from a president that does not lie. That did all he could to get bin-laden! So many people destroying that fine fabric of America! They even get rich off of it and go visit these places and give them money and talk bad of us. Sure enough though they come back here to prosper more and live in a safer environment. I never seen such a devide in our time of history. I mean people using their ignorance as "freedom of speech". I don't think that is the freedom of speech our soldiers fight for. Could you imagine the 'American Dreams' speech?, IF it all had been Constitutionalized!?-the real way of life and not big mouths suffocating the truth!. What a speech for our troops!
I can imagine in the Civil War how they fought and come back and say can we now f' the ****of the white house? it is sick madness leads no way- =death. 1st humanity. Hope you don't mind, me sharing this. I believe I have been left with a message to share. That is God Loves You.
Here is how I look at it too. GWC you say you are athiest. Yet, if you recognize it you work from 2nd humanity too! That is important. It is not important you are atheist .. there are other people atheist and work from 1st humanity-to hurt people! They have no conscious of their bad actions. I know a few atheist people. They are good but do not want to become trapped up into the idea of committment! I think some hold God so high they cannot see Him. If you look at Jesus as your friend brother and Savior and ask-tell share all your character with him, you will find a new door opening a much bigger world than you could ever imagine. It is time too for people to say this is how I interpret it. That is with good intent. To prove God exist is through birth and death! To prove there is a God do you not believe you exist? If you know you do you have taken the first step in recognizing the existance of God.
This is why I love this book I am working on. It is the things I have believed but now I can put words on it. If there were no books why cannot we work from our hearts? Learn from one another? Love one another? That was one thing I did like from the bikers I cannot mention their name-colors! They all though very interested in what I had to say. They all visited my rev.g-pa in the hospital. They do love the truth! Never lie to these guys! The truth is a sacred thing it can save a life! chow for now that was 'just a "whittle"



Consider me a bit skeptical, but cautiously optimistic. Still, I'm willing to stand up and try to build something here.

I'm Quiescere, here and other places. I never use my real name online, but I disagree about anonymity fostering poor behaviour. Certainly if anyone feels comfortable behaving badly because he has not given his real name, then he is by definition not the type of person we want building Ejectia.

As for my details, I'm currently an Atlantan. I know LAMP (Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP) coding and administration, I'm a decent cook who's almost sorted out the mystery of artisan-style French bread, and I was recently shocked to discover I'm a decent carpenter. My real passion is language, and I'm interested particularly in poetry and foreign language study (currently French).



I always wondered how our forefathers were so smart-insightful to know to think of references in our Constitution to make it solid and workable? What Great men!
Can we have a solid Constituion solid clad proof?!
Can ya say Jesus?



I'm in. I want the world to be a better place for my kids, and until now I had doubts.



G.W.C. 5/27 3:56 AM --
Man, that is a FASCINATING skill set! Can you instruct in "silent movement" via text?!? Just one suggestion re. the "reading list." Add Robert Spencer, (has a good web site for understanding the jihad mindset called "Jihad Watch" which I visit almost daily...) That is just personal opinion... Again, Sir, welcome!

Maggie 5/27 5:15 AM --
Good morning, Ma'am! Good to "see" you here again!

Don 5/27 8:16 AM --
Hey, Guy! Thanks for stoppin' by again!!!

Jimbouie 5/27 8:24 AM --
I believe our "tentacles" are beginning to spread! Welcome, Sir!

Daddyquatro 5/27 8:40 AM --
Good to see you checking by, friend! What time you going to the Lounge? I'll be happy to purchase a thirst-quenching beverage-of-your-choice... just name it, Dude!

Leftfoot Leeds 5/27 10:49 AM --
Cool poem, man! Original stuff like that is difficult for me to generate... Thanks for that!

Quiescere 5/27 11:43 AM --
A fellow ATLANTAN!!! (Although I'm currently in Hong Kong for the remainder of this week). Cool... and Welcome, Sir!

Tallkers 5/27 12:17 PM --
The Founders were simply brilliant. At that time, a SOLID backgound in reading/studying/UNDERSTANDING the literary underpinnings of Western Civilization thought and philosophy were considered a REQUIREMENT for the "learned," and even the "not so learned..." No more, with the "dumbing down of America..." I hope to reinforce my own understandings of the "classics" myself, and learn more about philosophy, as a part of this journey! I left two posts on the comments under "AHHH... MUCH BETTER" blog talking about this topic, at 7:48 PM and 11:24 PM, if you're interested...

Jack S 5/27 12:58 PM --
Welcome aboard, Sir! Simply, welcome.



The moment I read people recommending or quoting Robert Heinlein, I grok I'd found kindred spirits.

Not here to talk about him, especially - but to a kid of a broken marriage, he was more of a father to me than my natal pop. Oddly, he didn't seem surprised when I told him just that (some years back). Obviously, it's not the first time he heard it.

At least for now, I have no intention of getting into a lot of spirited conversation or debate. For now, it's enough to be aware that like minds not only exist but prosper and gather.

Suffice to say, I can change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog...

Lee



Just a Memorial Day Thought.

A shining example of Remenants, courtesy the Belmont Club.



Gregory Koster, Pellegri, Roxanne D., Catracks, Speakez,

To borrow Muscledaddy's shout out, the influx is as impressive as it is heartening - but I would not like us to lose one another in the rush.

iig_alexaATyahooDOTcom



Fascinating concept. There are many existing special interest virtual communities where the sort of interaction described already takes place, yet focused on the special interest at hand. Hobby forums are an excellent example, where like minded folks gather to help one another get better.

Anyhow, as someone who knows a bit about databases and woodworking, and has a scary ability as an info synthesizer, I'm up for hanging out in Ejectia.



Thankyou, Paul A. I only meant to say about my dad. The vultures! The lawyers I have to pay. Up to 28,000$. Just because my dad died? I heard the year 2008 Congress passed a bill that the government will be entitled to 1/2 your inheritance. That was on Cavuto. He said people are liquidating fast. It has made me aware of other people going through this and I cannot imagine. It is a mares nest in society to a make lawyers and judges rich! I do appreciate your words of kindness. 1st rev grand-pa and then my dad. I keep working on his book. I have learned so much in the past year because of all of this! I all so have other good things I can bring to Vitual City. I love humor.
Each one of us is a different path. Leading to one thing. Sometimes I am off my path!
I wasn't trying to be funny. Plus put me down for Ji-had watch!
When I started g-pa reverends book. I ran into a problem. No one used the word Jehweh, so everytime I typed it people knew. The Shia's and Sunni's use Yehweh. Anyways, That was when I discovered how close the intepretation I had was very close to that of eee,hate to say this islams. except they distort it at the time of Abraham and Isaac. As I discovered this I learned I was an apostate woman.-arn't we all? What a crossroads I was speaking-of ... it meant my well,,,non existance here on earth anyways! Since I was three I have been drawn to Jesus. Well, this made me sad! As you can imagine!. I am so excited to get his word out but now this has become a threat to their religion. Worse than any cartoon! Do you have refuge in Vitual City? jk! Then I needed to learn about islam. Another shocker. Robert Spencer is very good and knowledgeable!
We most certainly learned our Constitution in school. We the people.. I could try.. you would laugh. I do remember saying the Pledge of Allegiance in School the first time and when I heard the words God I knew there was hope and I was not afraid to be in school. GWC, I have had 3 mothers. I was lucky to have had my grandpa. Instead of being hippies in the days, we were 'Creeps'. We didn't want to be the "hippie of the term, it seemed to be a bunch of rich kids". I know, creeps!? I said I am no creep! The more I talked they made me a creep too! Of over 200 people. My brother was King of Creeps! We had a Creepsgiving Dinner! All asked to bring something to pass. My brother brought a football! Back to your post! It is time!-thanks for the feedback!



Thanks for the welcome! Love to all the Heinlein fans! My Dad -- WWII Hellcat pilot, boxer, buider of the house his nine children grew up in, and voracious reader -- introduced me to Heinlein when I was a kid, and passed on whatever Remnant genes I happen to have.



Point of interest: Heinlein turns 100 this July 7.



Paul A. | May 27, 2007 2:35 PM

Thankee Sir!

I check in several times a day. Can't keep up with the new posts otherwise...



I so wanted to ring the Ding!Ding!Ding! for commenter #700 but my lurker-fu has run out.
Pre-congrats tonight. I'll send post-congrats tomorrow.

D4/Stan #696



I'm Erik and I can teach computer repair, small network set up and security (including wireless), basic web design, gun safety, basic marksmanship, first aid, gardening, landscaping, dog training, cooking, basic management techniques, basic auto repair (diagnosis and part swapping)and how to shamelessly self promote a web site/blog.

I'm a generalist rather than a specialist.



Remember them well:

"Taps" ... you can hear it in your head right now ... and when you read these words ...

Day is done,
gone the sun,
From the hills,
from the lake,
From the sky.
All is well,
safely rest,
God is nigh.


Please ... go out of your way to say something nice to one of Our Soldiers ... a simple thank you for your service to Our Country will be deeply appreciated by them.

You'll walk away with a lot more than you know.

Thank you, if you do ... sleep you well.

Goodnight.

There are no official words to the music of Taps, but those are a few of the more popular verses.

Jari A. Villanueva, jvmusic@erols.com is a bugler and bugle historian. A graduate of the Peabody Conservatory and Kent State University, he was the curator of the Taps Bugle Exhibit http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/tapsproj.htm at Arlington National Cemetery from 1999-2002. He has been a member of the United States Air Force Band since 1985 and is considered the country's foremost authority on the bugle call of Taps.
www.tapsbugler.com



Paul A.:
I appreciate the thought, but my arrival requires no more than "welcome". While my convictions may be strong, I suspect that I have as many if not more personal "failures" in my past than most of you. For example: I was STUPID enough to be a pothead for 5 years. I'm not proud of it, but it is a fact. I beleive the best way to handle your failings is to air them publicly, at least then I can hope someone else will learn from my mistakes without having to learn the hard way, as I so often do. Besides, hiding your own failings dosen't make them go away, it just makes you doubly guilty (lying by omission). I quit because my grandfather died of lung cancer a few years ago. Now if I can only stop smoking cigarettes, preferably without killing anyone.
Some people might say that because I was a pothead at one time that means I am now a hipocrite because I didn't live up to my own standards. I prefer (lying to myself here?) to think it means I'm human, am I wrong? I watch people on the political left calling many christians hipocrites because they don't live up to Jesus' legacy. True they often fail, but at least they try. I think that if you constantly live up to your own expectations, your either a better man than I (in which case kudos for you), or, you intentinally set them low so you could fool yourself into thinking you're a better person than you are. I leave the decision of which applies to those finger pointers up to all of you. I try to think about it the same way I look at fighting. If you've never had your ass kicked, your probably not as good of a fighter as you could be, you've never had a REAL reason to get better.
Fascinating skill set? I don't know about that. It was almost dictated to me by necessity, and the fact that violence (unfortunately) is one of the few things I'm good at.
Robert Spencer (added to list of what to read), thanks. I can't teach silent movement by internet, but I might be able to give you enough to teach yourself.

Don: I'm still working on it. I have a total of 6 books I have to get through (I"m halfway through the third), that will give me an Applied Sicences Degree of Gunsmithing. After that I'm planning to go to the gunsmithing program at Trinidad CC to take the machine shop classes, they're not required for the degree, but I don't want to have any skill gaps when I actually start gunsmithing.
Spider Robinson? Don't know his work. I'll check it out. Thanks.

tallkers:
Clinton didn't invent the two-faced, forked tongue thing, he just perfected it. Ever heard of Janus? The two-faced greek (roman? I always forget, same gods, different names) god? It's no accident that people often remark that the worlds second oldest prefession (politican) bears a remarkable resemblance to the first oldest (prostitute). As for immigrants, I'm all for immigration, as long as it's legal, I don't care where they're from. Legal immigration prevents stagnation. Illegal immigration streches already thin resourses and promotes illegal behavior. If you'll break the little laws, eventually you'll break the big ones too.
Athiest commitment issues? Almost sounds like a chick flick. But I see your point. With me it's more a matter of a lack of faith. Do I beleive Jesus was the son of god? No. Do I beleive Jesus was one of the greatest men in history? Absolutely! Even muslims conceed that point.
As for our founding fathers, I think one of the reasons they were so smart is that they had imagination and forethought, not to mention a classical education (I forgot latin as soon as I learned it). Of course, it couldn't hurt that they had no TV to turn their gray matter to mush. lol.

Heinleins turning 100? Oh dear. I didn't get him anything. lol. If anyone should live that long, he should.



Greetings from Munich, Germany,

i'm a student of informatics and profound follower of the ideals of liberty. I read your essays with great interest, as you put my thoughts so perfectly to words.

I'm observing the rampant collectivism in Europe and the States with great concern. The libertarian (still called liberal in Germany, as the left didn't manage to steal, or think of stealing the term over here:) movement of Germany is virtually nonexistent, statism and collectivism is rampant. There is only one truly libertarian Magazine in whole Germany, and it is only known to few. Thats why i look to the US with great hope.

My skills are a bit unconventional, i would describe myself as a thinker, i'm good at getting ideas (well, i think), but i'm not so good at writing essays and writing those ideas down.

I see political and social systems as information systems with specific rules which can be utilized. Some years ago, i had an idea on how the web of trust could be measured by a voting system, therefore measuring which people are trusted most in a group. People would get "votes" that reflect how much trust they get from others (they are not votes in the classical term, more points). The goal behind the idea is to hinder power hungry politicians to obtain power by lying and spreading popular ideas, like collectivism for example, for their own agendas (well, in fact, they still could spread the ideas, but it would do them no good).

But the idea needs testing and until now i had no idea where this could be done. Well, Ejectia would be a perfect playground and i would be very very honored, if you would consider this idea!

Bruno Ohl, aka Kaneda



Kaneda,

Ding!Ding!Ding!
Not only are you commenter 700. But you make some excellent points. It's great to have perspective from outside the US.

Welcome!



I was directed to this site from just such a community, Baen's Bar.

I've been a member there since 2004 and remain one because of the quality of people that frequent the various forums there. It's often said that "this place is an education" by those who have received aid and comfort from other "Barflies" when we've asked for assistance with a personal problem outside our range of knowledge.

I offer this as evidence that there are pockets of intelligence and civility on the web that are occupied by members of the remenant that you wrote of, all that is needed is to find them.

For those of you who enjoy speculative fiction, intelligent discussions, discussions about history, and civil debates about current affairs I invite you to visit us there. You may not stay, but then again you might. There's an incredible amount of diversity there, enough for almost anyone to find something that interests them.

www.bar.baen.com:8080/ or www.baen.com and follow the links



ALL...
Short of time tonight, so I can't even be as "personable" as I usually TRY to be, and post individual welcomes... No, this isn't any "official" task I do. I do it because Daddyquatro "led by example," and I admire the guy. What is it "they" say..."There's no accounting for taste," or something like that?!?!?

SERIOUSLY, I want to welcome each and every one, and perhaps, just perhaps one day, we will be able to do that in the "real world," too.

So welcome aboard!!! It IS going to be a fun, elucidating ride!!!

This is Your Guy In China (Hong Kong) This Week... saying "Goodnight, All. Sleep safe, sleep well. And say a prayer or think a good thought for the men and women of our Armed Forces, if you would. Both past, present, and future."

And also, since MOST of you are actually beginning your day, not ending it like I, HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!



(I have sent the following email to all of my elected representatives
and have recommended/requested that all of my relatives and
friends do the same.)

Dear Congressperson,
From the news I am informed that several Congressmen and women have
made "good" use of their "recess" time. Some have traveled to Europe to
"fact-find" about the weather. Some have traveled to Egypt to "chit-chat"
with Islamic Jihadists. Others have traveled to the Caribbean to, I guess,
work on their tans during their "vacations".
Many Patriotic Americans stayed in this country and solemnly observed
this Memorial Day occasion by visiting cemeteries and VA hospitals.
Where did you go?

It is time to stop wasting the taxpayers time and money. I have been lied
to time and again that the only choice is Amnesty or Do-Nothing.
I strongly disagree. Here is THE (Insert name here) PLAN.

Stop pandering to special interests.
Stop making simple problems complicated.
Secure the borders.
Enforce current laws.

In other words, do what Congress was elected to do.

This plan will increase security, halt future illegal immigration, ensure that the
illegals already here will go home, and, best of all, unite the country behind you.
This plan might take a couple of years for all of the illegals to leave on their
own, but it has the advantage of not costing the American tax payers trillions
of dollars in the future.

(Still trying to be) Respectfully,
An American Citizen, Veteran, and Voter.

P.S. My favorite Aunt was born in England, my favorite sister-in-law was born in China, and my favorite cousins describe themselves as Hispanic-Americans.



Good morning.
It is a brilliant day, and
makes my tea have an especially
satisfying taste.
I believe reading the posted comments on Mr.Whittle's site is like reading a good book!



Wow!
I thought I had read ALL of the comments, yet I missed this one.
My apologies sir.

BTW--Meg--do you live in Texas?

Posted by: David L. | May 22, 2007 2:24 PM
Answer: Yes.
Again my apologies for being remiss.



/Sigh
Well my apologies again. I see another poster by the name of Meg, and I'm sure now this is who
DavidL was messaging.

Hi All,

My name is Meg and I'm a technical support manager, so like several folks who've already posted, I'm a generalist in the technology field as well as in most other areas of life. I also tend to be good with people, finding that I still like most of the folks I come across even after several years in support. Lastly, I make really good chocolate chip cookies which certainly can be taught. Ejectia as a community shall not go hungry on my watch (as long as everyone is happy to eat only chocolate chip cookies).

Posted by: Meg | May 21, 2007 5:37 PM

That's what I get for assuming!



Maggie,
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
Cookies!

RE: your brilliant day.

They're predicting rain here. Bummer.

But nothing: I mean Nothing will interfere with the charring of the cow. Cow WILL be charred at casa quatro this day!



It is Veterans Day and I would like to share a story of a airman in the U.S. I think of him time to time. I never met him but almost. The time I was born he died a 1/2 year after that. He was my reverends g-pa's son! John is his name. John quit school and went into the airforce. He wrote them several times, (I have the letters) he so wanted (my grandpa)his dad to be proud of him! In the newspaper article I am holding now, it says; A former Central High school student and newspaper carrier. Airman John enlisted a year ago after falsifying his age to recruiting officers. He completed his basic at San Antonio Texas.,at Williams Air Force Base, Chandler, Ariz. However, his true age had been discovered by the Air Force and he was due to receive a minority discharge in the near future. Airman John ****** 16 son of Reverend and wife, died Sunday afternoon in Memorial hospital, following an automobile accident near Gatesville.
The other papers I have about him he went over a cliff. When I went to see in Search of Private Ryan, I took some of his memorabilia with me. I do not know what Spielberg did but that was the first time I had really seen 'movie magic'. I gasp outloud and all the people looked, but when I got to my car I could not hardly get the keys in- I was crying so hard! If I was feeling like this I cannot imagine in real life what their families and friends and actuaully go through!
What ever I am saying. 'real life'. Since I was three I would watch war movies! I have had dreams of war since I was three too! I would ask my grandma are they going to come here? The worst one as a child was when everyone turned evil and all they had to do was touch you and you were evil too. My brother tried to fool me and touch me and I woke up!
I got off the subject kinda-evil is what we are fighting.
My grandpa's dad fought for Queen Victoria. After that war he was walking down the street and The Queen stopped and asked him where he was going. He said, to Canada. She arranged for him to go to Canada, where my grandpa was born. My grandpa then went to Missouri and at the age of 12 began sermoning in a church. Just a "whittle" tibet....
Thankyou to all our soldiers and their families. God Bless You -the hearts of this country!



By the way, Paul A.
I resemble that remark ;>)



GWC; just seen your post. Not only did Clinton perfect' it, he inco-operated it! I learned from movies since a kid the indians would say "White Man speak with fork tongue." I would get so mad at the - bad white man! I am for immigration for sure always have been! You are right illegals promote or inspire illegal behavior. How can the morale then be set for us!? This is what Clinton did! It would be a little different if he were just president of a bakery or something BUTT He was the president of the United States. A set example!
He too now guilty of setting that mindset! Hell, if the president does it-WE CAN! Because WE CAN!
I don't understand the next line-but I do have the book The Gift, poems by Hafiz and he too has poems of Jesus you are right. I was married to someone who did not believe Jesus was the true Messiah. For 7 Looonnnggg years! Happy Trails--



Hi all,
My Dad served in WWII in the Navy, most of the time on a PT boat. My Dad's group did what is akin to a fly-by, like in the movie Top Gun. They had orders not to but did it any way. Mac Arthur was not amused, But plenty of others sure were.
I hope we all can take a moment to to reflect and wrap our metaphysical arms around our brave men and women in uniform and in the grave and give 'em a hearty well done and thank you.
L8r LL



Hi my name is Brian aka Ryoushi. I teach good manners by example but that's about it. I know how to shoot rifles, shotguns and handguns reasonably well at tin cans and rotten fruit and can disassemble, clean and maintain same.

I keep blowing on the coals of American mythology and today it has flared into a fine, warm little blaze.



Greetings again.
With all of the talk about Heinlein, Filksinging, poetry and such, I am surprised no one has started this thread yet.
Remnants-I humbly present the first of the Ejectia Limericks(with chorus for singing at the Chase Lounge)
With apologies to one and all in advance;
There once was a dream called Ejectia!
Through wisdom they tried to perfect ya.
But The Remnant was wild
(in the mind of Skye Child)
So they hired D/4 to inspect ya.
(Chorus-to the tune Rule Brittania)
Rule Ejectia!
Ejectia waives the rules.
Remnants suffer many ills,
But never fools!
Running to hide now.
Svinrod



Ummmm, Svinrod.
/Snapping latex glove

Turn you head and cough!

Oops, there I go assuming gender again.

By the way, I checked out your site. The logo looks awesome!



D/4
Not exactly the type of inspection I had in mind, but I do recall saying that it gets mighty lonely up here in the hills. Hey..is that a banjo playing in the background?
Svin



Hi, Folks. I'm razorbacker, aka Mike. I live in the People's Republic of Arkansas, USA. My skillset is years out of date; having no computer skills worth sharing, a worldview that went out of favor around 1965, and the ability to piss people off within mere moments.

I don't know a lot about anything, but I know a little bit about a lot of things. I wouldn't trust anything taught my someone like me.

I won't lie to you, and I won't lie for you. And I think that this is a great idea. Best of luck to all.



Hm. Well, I have a doctoral degree in engineering that's just sitting around right now. I have experience as a technical editor. I gave birth to three children at home.

Can we do something with that?



Hi, I'm Will. Started reading Bill's essays a year or two ago and got hooked. I'm an applied statistician and former biologist. I love analyzing anything and getting to the bottom of the story, whether it's based on numbers or anything else. I'm a news, culture, history, and science junkie and start my day with Instapundit, which is how I found E!E!E!. Also fairly practical - I can garden, cook, build things, and play safely with pistols and other useful tools.



Was Doc Smith the "Man of Bronze"? As a little boy I discovered a section of the library that had a bunch of books no one read anymore. Tarzan, Tom Swift, the Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew, and Doc Smith. I was hooked and read them all. Simplistic, okay, but I love them.



Sigh,
It's been raining ALL day.
Can't fly the flag.
And the charring of the cow is in jeopardy.
The menu consists of...
Chicken breast for mommaquatro,
T-bones for me and the little quatros,
Grilled corn and asparagus
And Coleslaw a la Rachel.
Oh and watermelon.

I have been remiss in thanking all of the vets and active duty who have visited here. Thank you for your service.
The thoughts and prayers of casa quatro are with all who have heeded their country's call to arms.
My dad was a vet of WWII and Korea; we just lost him last year.
Love your WWII vets, people! We won't have them with us much longer.



Well said, Daddyquatro. Well said.

We ALL owe your father, and so many others, a debt we can ONLY repay by keeping their memory and ideals alive in our hearts, in our minds, in our actions.

And welcome, all. First time posters, and long-time internet addicts... Welcome.



Thoughts on Memorial Day.
Because of the "noise" about our getting out of Iraq, I've been re-reading Xenophon's ANABASIS, The March Up Country.
For those of you not familiar with the story: Xenophon was an "embed" with a bunch of Greek troops that went into the Baghdad area of Iraq a long, long time ago. After the commanding officers were treacherously slaughtered, our boy Xen became a Remnant First Class and helped lead the survivors in walking out thru Turkey. For anyone needing an adrenaline pick-me-up, I can recommend his speeches to the troops.
Some thoughts that come to mind today:
Could our troops walk out thru Turkey again? Doubtful... the Turks wouldn't even let us go in that way.
Do a Yalu down to Kuwait, hop on boats, and just sail away? Doubtful... Silkworms all the way past the Gulf of Oman.
Air evac out of Baghdad? Doubtful... aircraft are having to do air assault TOL's out of there now.
There are other options:
Surrender? British and French generals and politicians have done that in the past in this area and it worked out well for them but their troops were slaughtered or enslaved.
Diplomacy? (see Surrender above).
Victory? To the inept politicians and incompetent generals this seems to mean finding some way to distance themselves from the mess they got us into. CYA is rampant.
So:
What will happen when our politicians announce a "bug out" date ... or "time line" in the current vernacular? Who will be the last ones out?
Saigon is not a good example because the NVA did not actively resist or impede the "evacuation".
Vientiene comes to mind... the last ones herded out in civilian pants and shirts, no hand carried, pockets, watches, and rings pilfered by Pathet Lao.
It's a good thing, I guess, that the NVA/PL were a little more civilized and not interested in emasculated male or foreign female slaves.
Phnom Penh? Well, "we" got out OK, but I remember that millions of civilians didn't.
"We" pride ourselves in not leaving anyone behind but, as anyone who has been in the military or has even just read a history book knows, the politicians have no problem with this.
Mayaquez Incident? Don't remember that one, huh? This was a classic case of politicians and general grade officers wagging their weinies at each other. We kept getting "beeper on guard, beeper on guard" alerts, but the Navy and Marines were ordered to sail away on their big boats. For days we heard the rawkish sound of those beepers on the guard channel from the survival radios. We were told to ignore them. My unit rioted... the officers made themselves scarce. After a while the batteries ran down and the beeping stopped. We were then officially informed that the Khmer Rouge had obviously just been screwing around with the survival radios that they had taken from the bodies of our dead. Those bodies were never recovered.
So, to make a long story short, on this Memorial Day, I remember those "beepers on guard".
I'm also praying that there is someone named Xenophon "embedded" somewhere in our country.
Dick.



My name is Michael and I live in Houston, TX. I've coded applications on the web and on CD-ROM so I have a fair amount of technical expertise to share and, yes, I can teach it too.

My most handy skill, though, is probably in organization - of information and people.

When Ejectia gets off the ground, I would propose that one section be devoted to lesson plans / reading material aimed at K-12, to present and explain concepts like some of the ones in Bill's excellent essay, "You Are Not Alone".

The purpose would be to provide a resource for teachers, home-schoolers, parents etc. to help kids understand (and read examples) of what we mean when we discuss concepts like character and justice and why these things are important (and work!) in the real world.

I offer any help I can with the project and thanks for inspiring us!



Family first for me so I've been gone most of the weekend, sneaking a peek when I could. So much to catch up on, can't possibly comment to everyone. D4, thanks for asking, I'm OK but has anyone talked to Dougman? That looked like a signal flare to me.

Other ACKs to alexa kim re: Taps / thanks

Dick Stafford / your Congresscritter comm and the next post too

Svinrod / your limerick and chorus - PRICELESS - dug the logo too

gotta go but will be back - just can't help myself



My dad was a vet of WWII and Korea; we just lost him last year.
Love your WWII vets, people! We won't have them with us much longer.
Posted by: daddyquatro | May 28, 2007 2:41 PM


Indeed D4, for we have just lost (in the past few months) our last WWI vet.

I'm very grateful for the sacrifices your father made, for me in particular, to keep me free of oppression, free to pursue life as I see fit, not as some Fuhrer or Caliph might rule.

Receive from me, in his name, my gratitude. I continue to struggle to deserve it.



I first learned about this concept of a Remnant while studying Bible Doctrine. Relax, ya'll, I'm not going to start with brother this and sister that or God willing and so on. I'm a Christian believer, and I have believed in the reality of a Remnant of believers for a long time and I think that we continue to exist as a free, civilized people, in large part, because of this Remnant. So this hits home for me.

I'm an accountant.. managerial type.. i.e., I live with general ledgers, profit and loss statements, budgets, cash flow, etc.

I pray and hope for success here.

Thanks, Rimksy



The only issue with this theory is the bullshitters who are indistinguishable from truth to the uninformed, and use their claim of knowledge to pontificate untruth or grind an axe for personal gratification.

That said, I'm Vaarok. I know old military guns and dairy farming.



Hello, count me in as well. I am a daughter, sister, wife and mother. Father spent 40 years in the military. I have spent 27 years in so far.
3 brothers still serving as well. I am a Senior MSGT in the Air National Guard.

The nature of my job has taught me Command and Control, Emergency Management, Incident Response. I have been teaching these skills for many years to my subordinates. Have really been teaching people since Junior High, when I realized I had the knack of explaining things to people my own age.

27 years in the military has also taught me to really appreciate good leadership, as I have seen what happens in its absence.

Been married almost 25 years and have two children, 18 and 10.

Other interests/skills include; history, genealogy, reading, photography, knitting, sewing, music, self-defense, camping of all kinds (family, scouting, Civil War reenacting), cooking (can cook an awesome pork roast in cast iron over a camp fire), mythology, science fiction, and travel.

I've been frequenting conservative blogs for several years, but only recently found this one, and am SO impressed.

Mentally prepared for societal upheaval, though praying for it not to happen. Very glad to find a place with like-minded folks.

Macro Sheepdog and retaliator, micro always cooperating, trying to learn a bit more retaliation down at my own level, realizing I'm not doing anyone any favors by not holding them accountable.

Oh, and I can unjam a mean copier, too!



alexa,
Thank you. My deepest gratitude to your WWII vet as well.

Rimsky,
No worries. Theology is not what brings us together ( unlike our foes) nor should it keep us apart. Ideology(gut)is what brings us together.

Vaarok,
We are here to inform each other and help those un-informed.

ODC-GIRL,
Thank you so much for your service.
I need help on the micro level as well. If it ever comes to Macro; I want you at my back.
On second thought;
You take point.

Welcome!

PS
Cow was charred. And it was good.



tallkers - since you shared the story of your grandpa, you might like this story as well.



Every year, on Memorial Day weekend (sometimes I wait until D-Day), I watch the excellent HBO miniseries "Band of Brothers". Each of the ten installments have a moment or two that make me break down for a second, completely in awe of the service and sacrifices of those fellows.

When I served, there were a few minor scuffles (Sasson oil platform, evacuation of the embassy in Liberia, Panama) going on but I always seemed to be elsewhere. I think all who have worn the uniform in "peace time" wonder, at one point or another, if they would have acted bravely and honorably if they'd served in combat. I'm no exception.

I salute all those who have served and currently serve in harm's way and especially those who have paid for it with all they had.

Semper Fi,
Michael



Whoops. Make that "Sassan".



For those of you that have served, are serving, and will serve in the military: Thank you, for all that you do!



I am skilled at, and can teach, shooting, reloading, sailing, carpentry and building, and basic auto repair. Two complete careers in construction and engineering consulting, Now flying under the radar and doing happily with less. Wanting to meet and converse with those who are tuned to the "frequency" Bill talked about.



G.W.C. 5/28 10:52 PM --
Well said, but aways worth repeating. Thank you all.

blue diamond 5/29 2:39 AM --
You are in the right place, and the infrastructure is being built as we post. Welcome, Sir!!!

MZ 5/28 (several times) --
I hope a simple "Thank You for your service, Sir," and Welcome aboard, will suffice for now. There will be intellectual riches galore in the near future. Of this, I am certain.



Razorbacker,
nope ... E.E. (Doc) Smith was not the "Man of Bronze". He was an SF author who had 2 successful series - Skylark and Lensman, as well as several other not-so-well-known series. As I recall (I read most of them and have both of the above mentioned series) most of his books were pre-real-space-exploration (he died in '65).

Doc Savage - The Man of Bronze was an adventure series - mostly penned by Lester Dent -- although it appears he had multiple authors, especially back in the pulp magazine days.

I don't remember if I read the Tom Swift books ... don't ring a bell, but I devoured anything that looked vaguely interesting back in the '50's and '60's .... less so today since I have to earn a paycheck.



G.W.C. | May 28, 2007 2:54 AM

I think you'll enjoy Spider. Try to read "Callahan's Crosstime Saloon" first. That sets the tone for most of his writing.

http://www.amazon.com/Callahans-Crosstime-Saloon-Spider-Robinson/dp/0812572270



pete in Midland - The Tom Swift books are horribly dated now, of course, and written for younger readers, but if you're interested, they're available at the Gutenberg Project.



Also known as Satanicmechanic around the web. (not satanic not even a real mechanic)
I do pc repair work for a living. I also work on motorcycles and cars as a hobby. I think my biggest strenghts are "fixing" things and explaining how something works in laymans terms that people can understand even if they have no knowledge of the original subject.



j.spicer,
By the light of the night
It'll all be all right!

Welcome!



The Remnant: your descriptions explain a lot to me--I've always wondered why a very few people "get it" while the others wallow around in the world.

I tutor math, 6th grade thru college freshmen, and all sorts of biology, 9th grade on.

Soon, I will leave where I am now (Maryland) to join a mission in a port in Louisiana; the mission is Friend Ships. I am divorcing my husband of 31 years (ouch!) and looking forward to a new life! My future is uncertain but very very good....

I'll be visiting your site often. Happy to have you aboard!



My name is Jim, I live in Missouri, and I can teach community building online, using blogs and RSS and lots of Web 2.0 tools.



Interesting idea. Good luck and bon voyage! Bona Fortuna! Viel Gluck! Bon Chance!



Great Essay. Can almost hear the sleeves being rolled up.



Hello again. I am another 'jack of all trades, master of none'. But, I think far too much credit is given to specialists. Anything that you can do is worthwhile.

From another website, I saw a review of the book The Lost Country Life by Dorothy Hartley. The review states, "Hartley goes through a year of life in a medieval village; by the end, I realized that compared to an ordinary medieval farmer, I am grossly uneducated and unskilled. All I can do is read and write and talk; the medieval farmer had to be master of hundreds of difficult skills and lores, and his life depended on getting it right."
source: http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/everything/2007-05-13.shtml

So, feel free to share everything you know, not just what you've specialized in. I learned a little about square-foot-gardening recently. While explaining it to a neighbor, I learned so much more because they knew more than me. But, if I hadn't have tried to share, I wouldn't have learned.



I guess my first question (perhaps asked and answered in an earlier comment) is: how do you plan to keep the cheaters out?



Michael Williams 5/29 2:19 PM --
In the sure knowledge I'm being
/TOADLY "politcally incorrect,"
the topics of "cheaters," "trolls," "sock puppeteers," and the like have been much discussed. There are several much-experienced folks with some very specific "tactics" that will be implemented, and a person's reputation will be an important element in the "coin o' the realm."

More succinctly, "Ve haf vays of dealing vith zat..."

/OK, political incorrect warning off...

So come on in, kick back, and relax... (but like any good sheepdog, be always aware of your surroundings)... ;=)



Hi everyone I'm John. I would just like to say that I really enjoy reading the essays posted here. I am a paramedic and am more than willing to teach my trade. I, unfortunately have less than no skill with computers so my input to this process will be mostly in the form of support.

Cheers.



Hail and well met all.

I hope you can find room for me in Ejectia. I have been, in the course of my half century plus: (in no particular order) actor, animal handler, carpenter, cabinet maker, electrician, guitarist, painter, plumber, theater tech and (forgive me) used-car salesman; all of the above for the sake of a paycheck.

When not involved in paying the bills I spend as much time as possible playing with my favorite toy: the English language.

I am quite willing and able to teach anything I know and have an honorary doctorate in Creative Emergency Engineering from Hard Knocks U.

This sounds like my kind of town and if I can help anyone in any way, feel free to ask.

Very sincerely yours,

Ye Olde Beastie



I do web development and can volunteer to help develop ejectia online. If you need some help let me know, sounds like a great idea



Wayne B;! Thankyou. I really enjoyed that! I am, I guess someone would call me something?! The tears flow down! My grandpa was the same way never complainded! Then these young boys it is embedded in them. These people are Heroics! I am lucky I have a few pictures of him. A very good looking young man in uniform. I lived in the same house he did. His dad's house. I was just so funtunate to have had them. John, I have his report card. I laugh sometimes I try to write a story for him. He was a stinker somewhat. His brother was in airforce and he used his name. They never caught it! I have all the papers! The bad news telegram my grandparents got! It is so sad! I still watch war movies. and I'd fight and shoot what ever I had to do if I could! People some, think I should lighten up. I think I am. They want to hear good sht! Any advise!



Count me in, I am just a retired soldier, trying to do my best (most days, I have my down days). I want to see where this can go. js



Hi all. I live in Seattle and am another jack of all trades and master of electronics repairs. I have spent 40 plus years in the rf communications industry. I always feel I have found home when reading Bills's essays. Hobbies are amateur (heavy on amateur) astronomy/ astro photography, shade tree mechanics, able to teach and desirous to learn.



Hammy 5/29 5:19 PM --
Come on in!!! Watch/Listen/read as this place is built!!! And Welcome!!!

USBeast 5/29 5:25 PM --
Welcome, SIr!!! Your talents and skills will come in mighty handy around these parts!

realitygaps 5/29 7:09 PM --
Noted, and thank you!!! Welcome in, Sir!

Jess Adair 5/29 7:58 PM --
Thank you for your service. A hearty Welcome for you, Sir!!!

Sammy Sewell 5/29 9:31 PM --
Welcome!!! There seem to be a fair number of "amateur astronomers" around!!! I want to be, but time for it just slips away... I considered investing in a "decent" scope, for a while... Welcome!!!



Not sure what I can teach. Mark Twain once observed that the best school is a log with a teacher sitting on one end of it and a student on the other end. I'm a so-so classroom teacher but a good log teacher. I can teach high-school-level physics and mathematics by the log technique. I can also speak a bit of Gaelic and can teach it to others. (A language that very few people can speak can sometimes be useful.)



Hello, everyone. What can I do? I have practiced law for 21 years (and was an adjunct professor for 6 years). I play 6 musical instruments. I am an instrument and multi-engine rated pilot, working on an instructor's certificate. I am building an airplane. I am a competent handyman with many years experience rehabbing property. I like to create wooden knife scabbards with inlay designs from exotic wood veneers. I have been a lifelong student of history, philosophy, biography and literature, and I love to teach. I gladly offer what I have to share with like-minded individuals. Am I the only one who thinks this idea has a hint of "A Canticle for Liebowitz" about it?



All this seems very interesting, and I might be able to contribute, but first I'd like to raise one objection to one of your points. In the prisoner's dilemma, the cost of retaliation is zero. In the real world, the cost of retaliation is greater than zero. For example, in the case of illegal immigrants, we can all agree that illegal behavior should be punished, but the actual cost of chasing down ten million people, holding them in jail cells, taking each through the legal process, appeals, and so forth, would be enormous. Consider: suppose that each illegal immigrant went to trial. The cost to the state for such a trial would easily run to $100K. Multiply that by 10 million illegal immigrants and you get a total cost of $1 trillion. Is this a price we're willing to pay to enforce this law? Ideally, we'd pay any price, but are YOU willing to pay the taxes for this? They would run to about $3,000 for every legal citizen of the USA.



I would pay 3,000 to start getting them out! I would borrow it, I have no $ but it is worth it!



Besides it cost alot more than that! try 10x's that amount!



Erasmussimo - We always have to consider a worst-case scenario, of course, but only as part of establishing a baseline for determining the likely outcome. The chances of even 10% going to trial are almost infinitesimal, and I would be willing to pay $300 for it.

Oh, and Welcome! :-)



Hey, Bill. I finally got to reading your essay (it's a very busy time for me) and it certainly put a number of ideas in my head that will be quite useful. I certainly like the idea you propose because currently I'm at a state where I'm reassessing my own skills and figuring how best to apply to them to a career.

If there's anything you are good at, though, it's implanting useful ideas in people's heads. People need to have hope injected into them on a regular basis lest they become jaded.



Thanks, WayneB. You're right, we'll get far less than 100% who fight to remain. We could also cut the costs greatly by enacting very clear legislation that makes it difficult for an illegal to mount an effective case. Still, the legal costs, plus the housing, food, and transportation costs will certainly range into the many billions, and could certainly top $100 billion. That's still $300 per man, woman, and child, or over $1000 per household. I don't think it's politically possible to pull off an expensive mass deportation like that. The American people would have to accept some serious sacrifices.

My point, however, was not focussed specifically on illegal immigration, but on the larger issue of retaliation in general. Retaliation always costs time and money, and there are many retaliatory policies that cost more than the cost of the initial injury. For example, if we consider the invasion of Iraq to be retaliation for 9/11 (certainly a plausible consideration), then the $1 trillion cost of this war far exceeds the several hundred billion cost of 9/11. And the casualties of the war now far exceed the casualties of 9/11 when you consider the number of disabled soldiers we now have.

There's also a problem with establishing proportionality of retaliation. In the prisoner's dilemma, the retaliation is exactly the same as the provocation, so there's no question of proportionality. But how do we retaliate to France's refusal to lend military support to our invasion of Iraq? Do we refuse to lend our military support of one of their invasions? They don't do any! Do we nuke them? That's disproportionate.

Then there's the problem of escalatory retaliation sequences. In the prisoner's dilemma, retaliation cycles always remain fixed in intensity, but in the real world, retaliation often provokes greater retaliation, leading to an escalatory spiral. Is it worth picking a fight with Russia over natural gas exports, say, if the fight might end up in a nuclear exchange?

The prisoner's dilemma is an interesting thought experiment, but applying it directly to policymaking is fraught with potential for grievous error.



Erasmussino - a competent government / administration would nip this in the bud, i.e., illegal immigrants wouldn't have standing to sue the Federal Government. Case dismissed - get on the bus.



goy, I don't think that you're correct on the legal aspect of this; aliens have always had the same basic civil rights as citizens. The Fifth Amendment says, "No person shall be..." It doesn't say "No citizen shall be...". And illegal immigrants are still persons.

We have to follow the rule of law in enforcing the law.



...aliens have always had the same basic civil rights as citizens...

Perhaps those aliens who are here legally. But an illegal alien, suing the Federal Government for the right to stay here just because they're here, when no such protection under the Constitution exists, strains credibility.

And a competent government would so state in legislation such as the recent immigration law. AFAIK, they haven't.



Hello all! I am a hardcore biz ops person by trade for a technology manufacturer, so I'm not sure exactly what I can teach, besides golf and bowling, but am valued professionally for my thinking, reasoning and problem-solving. I am a long-time reader and am delighted to dip my toe in this forum for the first time!



People who brake laws are still people but they get their rights taken away and they do not have the rights as 'the people'. Speaking of Americans who else? You have no rights not even to vote if you broke the law. They broke the law crossing, lying, using false id, braking the laws continiously for as long as they can. Other wise go apply and don't lie! We would like to know who lives in our town.



Erasmussimo: The cost for acquiescing is also not zero. Sometimes it is lesser or greater for retaliating or cooperating. It's too general an argument for such a specific thing as cost, especially when the other option is not free either (as the latest immigration kerfuffle displays...)



Goy and tallkers, I know it's surprising to you, but yes, anybody of any nationality can sue in US court for relief. The US government can't simply lock up anybody it wants to. Everybody gets due process. The government has to take them before a judge and prove -- not just claim, but prove -- that they really are an illegal alien. And they get to tell their side of the story, too. That's what's called due process, and it's fundamental to what makes us great. We absolutely, positively, MUST respect the rule of law, even when dealing with lawbreakers. Besides, how do you really know that they're lawbreakers until you've had a trial?

RiverCocytus, you're absolutely right that the cost of not enforcing the law is also high. So, ideally, we'd just do a cost-benefit analysis of the various policy options and see which one costs us the least overall. Oddly, we don't see much of that kind of thinking in the immigration debate. It's mostly passions run wild.



Frank J. for Secretary of War!
Bring on the Mexicannons!
Nuke the Moon!
Yay!
Svinrod



A True Story
My wife's father began sexually abusing her when she was 5 years old. After 6th grade she was forced to leave school and travel with her father, her abuser, and work heavy construction. She wore a towel to flatten her breasts and her hair under a cap. No one knew she was a girl. At the age of 15 her father broke her arm. At the age of 16 he broke three ribs. On neither occasion was she taken for medical treatment. There is no CPS in rural Mexico, no homeless shelters, no runaway hotline. At 17 she ran away to her maternal grandmother. Her father found her and brought her back.


She realized she had two choices; stay where she was, and die, or come to America

Her brother, who is here legally, helped her cross the border. She immediately learned English, got a GED, found a job, (in housekeeping) and put herself through technical school. She is now a legal resident well on her way to becoming a citizen.

I have no idea how typical her story is.

I understand the sentiments expressed here by some. 15 years ago I would have agreed with you. It's a thorny problem not well served by knee jerk reactions. Please try to remember that you are talking about people. And for every person there is a story. For some it's not about getting a job to buy more stuff, not about sending money home to Mexico, not even about building a better life. For some it's a matter of having any life at all. It is literally a matter of life and death.



SPE - welcome to the community.

America has almost always had sanctuary exceptions to its immigration policies, so that story, while tragic, really isn't part of the illegal alien debate.

We really don't want to get too deeply involved in discussions like this on this thread, as it's mot about welcoming people and providing that sense of community that many of us have missed, so that's all I am going to say right now. Feel free to bring it up again, though, after we launch the main Ejectia! site, which we are working on as fast as we can without throwing together something that will fall apart as soon as it gets a load on it.

Erasmussimo - naturally life is a lot more complicated than the Prisoner's Dilemma, but it's a start on working out a way of behaving in life, not the be all, end all...

Ok, too philosophical, who wants to buy me a Guiness in The Chase Lounge?



Uh, where it says:

"...it's mot about welcoming people..."

Should be:

"...it's more about welcoming people..."

Dang it! Dougman strikes again!



Eras', I think you're pushing this illegal alien example beyond logical support - kind of like the erroneous premise that the removal of Saddam was retaliation, per se, for 9/11. It was not.

Again - anyone of any nationality can sue for relief provided they have legal standing and can show damages. What "damages" has an illegal alien - who is breaking U.S. law by being here in the first place - incurred in being deported back to their country of origin? None. What standing does an illegal alien have in Federal Court when they're here illegally in the first place? None.

Case dismissed - Get On The Bus!

Think that's harsh? Wait until Romney or some other stooge pushes through his "Healthcare for Everyone" at a National Level. With what we'd have to pay to cover the illegals in this country, you'll be lucky if it only costs each man, woman and child $300. And that's just for health care.



Yes, I don't want to be a nitpicker. You're quite right that the prisoner's dilemma provides interesting and useful insights into ethics and social behavior. I'm cautioning against applying its lessons too rigidly, as exemplified by the immigration discussion that arose.



daddyquatro - Thanks for the welcome! How about we stand back to back?

Erasmussimo - I understand your point, but the current cost of the flood of illegals is equally tremendous: Health care, education, welfare, depressed wages, etc. Even if we just shut the flow off and whittled them down through attrition, the benefits would be huge. We need to stop accomodating them and treating them like citizens with full rights.



ODC-GIRL, the cost of immigrants is a highly debated subject. We don't even have good numbers on the number of illegal immigrants -- the estimates I have seen range from a low of 6 million to a high of 20 million. Figuring out how much they cost us is even harder. The best study I saw concluded that the average illegal immigrant had a net negative contribution for the first two or three years, after which they started making a positive contribution. Unfortunately, I cannot recall where I saw this study, but if it's important to you, I'll take the time to try to find it.



Eras', I humbly submit that if we try to turn the illegal immigration issue on a cost/benefit analysis, we'll end up like Europe.

The cost to the nation of supporting "diversity" (faux diversity at that) at the expense of unity is not something one can count in dollars, IMHO. Trying to be "nice" to illegals who - by definition - have broken the law is part and parcel of this broken mindset.



goy & Erasmussimo,
It's almost 5 o'clock. How 'bout we continue this over at Chase's and let the nice people say howdy?

Of course, at a virtual bar, it's always 5 o'clock and there's never last call!

Pangalactic Gargleblasters for everybody!



Where though, today, can one go to find a community that values such things, whose cohesiveness is formed not from the same political party, skin color, sexual orientation or any of the rest, but rather solely by a determination to improve ones own self and in doing so improving the common welfare?

Well, those of us out here in the sticks call it "church," but we're funny that way.

On the otherhand, for the industrious development of harmonized virtues--? Three cheers and a tiger.

I'm a librarian, a gardner, an illustrator, a bookbinder, a writer and a mom. And yes, I'm willing to teach all of them except the mommy-ing. That'd be hubris and no mistake.

Best of luck with your project. I'll be stopping by from the livejournal feed whenever I can.



hello all,

my name is Juan. My passion is history, my profession is technology. I'm in part two of my public life (24 years military, retired Coastie) and session three on the private end.

This is a good place, and you are a good man, Bill.

Plus, you must know that anyone who considers VDH "irreplaceable" will ALWAYS have a seat at our dinner table. He is indispensable, a light to us all.

I'm in - I love hangin out with heroes... they're so quintessentially American "-)



The answer to America's problem with illegal immigration offers a question that must be addressed by our triple cultural heritage. Our Graeco-Roman philosophical tradition demands we answer the question what is justice? Our tradition of English Common Law asks how do we apply the rule of law? And we are obliged by our Judeo-Christian morals to consider mercy (compassion, though I hate to use the word) in our decision. The three pillars are the bedrock of Western Civilization (at least for the Anglosphere). There's no easy answer. But we will, at least, honor tradition by considering the three parts.



Paul A., in the immortal words of Eeyore: "Thanks for noticing me."

What strikes me about this crowd is the depth and range of experience and the nearly teary-eyed hope expressed for the success of Ejectia.

Is it just me or did anyone else hear echoes of a whispered "Robin in Sherwood at the Gallows Oak."?



Hi, my name is Pablo, I'm twenty-two and I'm from faraway Uruguay. I know a bit about history, geography, videogames, computers, Latin American issues, political science and other topics.

Bill Whittle: I've always been a huge fan of your work. Your essay launching Ejectia inspired me. It embodies the spirit of Western thought: moving forward, striving for self-improvement, a constant push for knowledge.



Thoughts on diversity and immigration; The founders regarded it as one of the creators greatest blessings upon the original colonies that we were possessed of a people with a common language, a common heritage, and an established respect for law and custom. The privileges of Citizenship today are diluted by an unrestricted wave of mass migration from around the world. Many of our forebears paid that full measure of sacrifice to preserve these United States as a single unified nation with but one set of laws, one language, and a common vision of how society should of necessity be ordered. To discount their sacrifice and to distribute their patrimony amongst any and all who may arrive upon our shores without knowledge, appreciation, and respect for or claim to such an inheritance is to desecrate their graves, their sacrifice and such veneration as they by right ought to deserve.
Svinrod



Right you are D4!

Uhm...

...where IS Chase's, exactly?

:-)



goy,
Only for you, man. I had to go look it up.

The Chase Lounge is located right off Ejectia town square. However, due to an unfortunate circumstance, the front window has a stunning view of the butt of the Dougman statue. I'll have to check with the management on his non-alcoholic offerings. I know he has free 7-up on Sunday.
Posted by: daddyquatro | May 20, 2007 8:13 AM

My word!
Was that only 10 days ago?

I think he may be relocating to the top of a hill but the Dougman statue is absolutely coming with.



First off, I'd like to add my sorry carcass to the group that's willing to build something -- conditionally. My condition is that I have something of value to offer this group. I'm certainly very knowledgeable in a number of fields, and I have long been teaching people. But I'm not sure that my contributions would be of any value to this group. I do hold in very high esteem three of the four core values presented on the main page: Freedom, Reason and Honor. I place Reason on the highest pedestal. I don't care much for the fourth (Country) because I consider myself a citizen of the world, and think it my duty to make the world a better place for everybody, not just one arbitrary group of people.

I especially reject the parochial tendencies of some of the commentators here. I don't mind their presence -- it takes all kinds to make a healthy community. But if they are representative of the overall community culture, then I don't want to be the crotchedy sourpuss who's always raining on everybody's parade.



Greetings, all.

I have a question. How can a virtual community devoted to producing better citizens and a better society allow its members to hide their true identities? Transparency and authenticity are pretty important virtues, too.

I just thought that it was kind of odd to see so many pseudonyms, give the noble purpose of this virtual community. Am I making too big a deal about this?

'Nuff said.

What could I teach others? Well, I taught elementary school for 10 years before transferring to the Instructional Technology Department about 10 years ago. I can teach people how to teach, I guess. I'm Cisco certified (CCNA, CCNP) and currently manage our district's WAN (52 remote sites, thousands of switches, routers, wireless access points, video broadcast servers, program managers, web servers, email servers, and on and on and on). I know a little bit about web site design and management. I can build a relational database and make it web-accessible. I manage the district's IP phone network (about 2,000 phones to date). I'm familiar with DNS and know how to register for a block of portable addresses from ARIN. I can detect and stop most Denial of Service and other kinds of attacks (it's a daily chore). I know Ares, Gnutella, and BitTorrent traffic when I see it. I can do a "man-in-the-middle" attack and decode a packet stream to capture text. I can paddle a kayak 20 miles in a day. I can make a sail that will work on any kayak and does not require the drilling of any holes. I can make a kayak rudder that you can control with foot braces.

Is any of this stuff useful?